Madara vs The Akatsuki

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Nagato is madara's biggest threat.

What zetsu is this? spiral will give madara a run for his money as well.

I still give it to madara extreme-high diff if you allow spiral zetsu. If not then nagato just pushes him to high.
 

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@Draphsin:

Zetsu is absolutely no threat to any form of Madara. Actually, Zetsu is more loyal to Madara then any of the Akatsuki, so he will help him out. Nagato? please, he gets one shot by PS slash.
 

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@Draphsin:

Zetsu is absolutely no threat to any form of Madara. Actually, Zetsu is more loyal to Madara then any of the Akatsuki, so he will help him out. Nagato? please, he gets one shot by PS slash.
Which is why I asked if zetsu would be on the akatsuki side

I know he's loyal but that doesnt mean he can't be fighting him in this matchup, & shinsuusenju [while it may be smaller than hashi's] can still push madara, there is absolutely no doubt about that.


Nagato still has the power to knock susanoo down, PS slash can be avoided should nagato decide to take flight.

But whatever it doesnt matter, madara still wins. I just don't see him stomping this many overpowered individuals.
 

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Which is why I asked if zetsu would be on the akatsuki side

I know he's loyal but that doesnt mean he can't be fighting him in this matchup, & shinsuusenju [while it may be smaller than hashi's] can still push madara, there is absolutely no doubt about that.


Nagato still has the power to knock susanoo down, PS slash can be avoided should nagato decide to take flight.

But whatever it doesnt matter, madara still wins. I just don't see him stomping this many overpowered individuals.
Lol, please tell me that's a joke. Mini Shinsuusenju was getting shattered by Karin's chains. PS was shattering MOUNTAINS with 1 slash. Mini Shinsuusenju gets completely destroyed along with its owner.

Nagato isn't avoiding a slash capable of taking out 7 mountains in one panel. He has no speed feats suggesting he could. Also, what power is that?

PS slash is actually overrated as hell.
It sure can take out Orochimaru.
 

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Lol, please tell me that's a joke. Mini Shinsuusenju was getting shattered by Karin's chains. PS was shattering MOUNTAINS with 1 slash. Mini Shinsuusenju gets completely destroyed along with its owner.
How do you know karin's chains can't bust mountains either? Has she ever attacked mountains with them.

Point being that mokuton is one material, it doesnt increase in strength because its simply wood [proof of this is when the shinjuu's wood was getting sliced apart by basic ninjutsu]. There is nothing suggesting that spiral's wood is weaker than hashi's so comparing karin's chains to it means nothing, karin could just have OP chains.

The sheer number of hands is why this is difficult, the hands can catch the blades just like hashi did & one slash isnt destroying all 1000 before the other ninja make a move.

Nagato isn't avoiding a slash capable of taking out 7 mountains in one panel. He has no speed feats suggesting he could. Also, what power is that?
Why would madara instantly go PS? Nagato summons his bird & he's already in the air & trust me it's much harder to hit something that's airborne than something that's on the ground.

Also, what about the other ninja running around on the ground? This isnt Nagato VS madara, there are others there to keep him busy, you can't say PS slash ends them all when they all have ways of avoiding it. Madara doesnt have 1000 swords so he isnt dealing with them all at once.
 

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How do you know karin's chains can't bust mountains either? Has she ever attacked mountains with them.

Point being that mokuton is one material, it doesnt increase in strength because its simply wood [proof of this is when the shinjuu's wood was getting sliced apart by basic ninjutsu]. There is nothing suggesting that spiral's wood is weaker than hashi's so comparing karin's chains to it means nothing, karin could just have OP chains.

The sheer number of hands is why this is difficult, the hands can catch the blades just like hashi did & one slash isnt destroying all 1000 before the other ninja make a move.



Why would madara instantly go PS? Nagato summons his bird & he's already in the air & trust me it's much harder to hit something that's airborne than something that's on the ground.

Also, what about the other ninja running around on the ground? This isnt Nagato VS madara, there are others there to keep him busy, you can't say PS slash ends them all when they all have ways of avoiding it. Madara doesnt have 1000 swords so he isnt dealing with them all at once.
Now i cant possibly take you serious with the bold.

Bold 1: Go and get feats then.
Bold 2: OMG, just stop. Zetsu is no where near Hashirama. The fact his strongest technique isn't even the size of Mokujin is enough proof. Feats don't agree with you.
Bold 3: Lol, you always say in a ET Kabuto can be blitz especially using PS argument, and now you question he wont go to PS? Hypocrite much. Not to mention the OP says its intent to kill, so Madara can go to PS anytime he wants.

Nagato isn't going to fly that top when PS size and slashes will make it impossible. No, they're not going to avoid instant 7 mountain slash. Not even close.
 

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Those Mokuton hands were able to wrap their hands around Kurama's entire body. This SS is probably around the size of one of Hashirama's Mokuton hands.
Actually its not. Mini-Shinsuusenju is around Zetsu's size. Gyuki's hand is around Kakashi(185cm) size. Full Kurama is 7x the size of Gyuki.

Mini-Shinsuusenju is a little bigger than Yang Kurama.
 
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