Madara vs Orochimaru

Lord Tywin

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Oro is healthy. Nadara is 3 tomoes
intel is full on both sides
They get their weapons. Oro can't use Et

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Zetsu Oro. Madara is MS and can use v2 Susanoo
everyrhing else is same
 

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Even I wouldn't argue in Orochimaru's favor. -_-
 

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Orochimaru wins both scenarios.
 

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counter for Madara's genjutsus on summons or oro himself? reflection gunbai? Madara's speed?

Lmao summons are irrelevant, and all Orochimaru has to do is fight in a way where he won't need to make too much eye contact. Gunbai is irrelevant unless you show a chakra based attack that Orochimaru uses that Madara can actually reflect, and Madara's speed is irrelevant. Meanwhile:

-Madara has no conceivable way to actually put him down, it's a million times worse in S1 since he's limited to Katon, Gunbai and a scythe.

-Madara has no way to block or overpower Eight Branches in S1 or S2, nor can he take it down. Susanoo adds that defensive power, but Madara w/ MS drawbacks won't outlast Orochimaru. Not to mention Hydra going at V2 Susanoo with multiple hits at full power should eventually get past Susanoo.

Restrict Eight Branches and Madara would beat Orochimaru in both scenarios.
 

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Lmao summons are irrelevant, and all Orochimaru has to do is fight in a way where he won't need to make too much eye contact. Gunbai is irrelevant unless you show a chakra based attack that Orochimaru uses that Madara can actually reflect, and Madara's speed is irrelevant. Meanwhile:

-Madara has no conceivable way to actually put him down, it's a million times worse in S1 since he's limited to Katon, Gunbai and a scythe.

-Madara has no way to block or overpower Eight Branches in S1 or S2, nor can he take it down. Susanoo adds that defensive power, but Madara w/ MS drawbacks won't outlast Orochimaru. Not to mention Hydra going at V2 Susanoo with multiple hits at full power should eventually get past Susanoo.

Restrict Eight Branches and Madara would beat Orochimaru in both scenarios.

You got to admit though, Eight Branches dead ass seems hella weak. Like the jutsu could have been way more, but its just a big ass drakon-snake.
 

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You got to admit though, Eight Branches dead ass seems hella weak. Like the jutsu could have been way more, but its just a big ass drakon-snake.

Right lmao. Basically a better Manda with 8 heads. A legendary Sannin's strongest technique should be so much better than that.
 

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Orochimaru doesn't stand a chance if you were to give Madara access to Mokuton and even without it, I'm still uncertain if Orochimaru would win.
 

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all Orochimaru has to do is fight in a way where he won't need to make too much eye contact.

How? Orochimaru has fallen for Genjutsu everytime he faced an Uchiha.

Madara stomps all rounds Hydra is not better than Manda it's literally the size of s V4 susanoo and Manda has much more impressive feats multiple clones multiple Katons roast hydra.
 
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