Madara VS Obito

[Obitoo]

I think that Obito will just get that slight edge because of the Kamui and Space-Time Ninjutsu he can use to flank and distract Madara even though Madara has EMS and the Kyuubi.

This is a pretty interesting fight since Kakashi and Obito are currently fighting Madara right now in the manga and it seems that Madara knows about the Kamui, but doesn't know how to counterattack it.

So really, Obito wins

 

[Haizaki]

If madara separates from kurama then obito warps in front of it's face & dispels the genjutsu on it.

Or if you think that doesn't work then obito warps atop chomei, turns his bijuu into V2 modes, sends them away, & spams the battlefield from the air, while providing sneak attacks in the form of lava or acid mist. [

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The V2 jins are much too fast for kurama to handle at once, if madara doesn't intervene then kurama is rather useless & obito still has chomei for support.



Sensory abilities allow a user to perceive the things around them, the sharingan precognition only works when the user is actually looking at his enemy.

If obito can do this to fuu [

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Using a distraction is how this works, similar to how obito used kurama to distract minato which enabled him to get grabbed.

& Obito can simply warp away if madara somehow manages to overwhelm obito for close to 5 minutes.

After seeing this, I agree obito wins

 

[Silver Wolf]

C'mon everyone it's clear that according to manga portrayal no one is on Madara's or Hashirama's level of skill, plus the only difference between EMS Madara and Rinnegan Madara is that Rinnegan Madara's arsenal is wider but nonetheless the skill level is the same so if Rinnegan Madara can win against Obito then EMS Madara wins as well. And for all those saying Obito uses Omnyoudon, you don't even know what Omnyoudon is, it's Yin-Yang release and all the Omnyoudon jutsus that Obito used are black staff and other black weapons, the only dangerous Omnyoudon jutsu Obito has is the one that cancels ninjutsu and that can only be used in Juubi form, as well as the Omnyoudon jutsu that allows you to add all 5 elements to the black stuff making it malleable

 

[Draphsin]

Like i said their is a difference between the the leggless susanoo and ps

Bull crap, give me the scan stating so. PS is simply a larger stabilized version of susanoo, assuming that it doesn't have room is fanfiction when all other susanoo's have been shown to have some room.

Ps shockwaves flings bijuu damas and each and every direction

Give me the freaking scan, lmfao.

bm naruto could deflect them with his bear hand also kurama bijuu damas is more powerful this is shown multiply time in canon

BM naruto deflected them with pure chakra, show me susanoo using a shockwave to send them flying. The nonsense you're spewing is rather ridiculous. Lol

saying im bias boy please madara is not my favorite character obito is yours and when i debated jin madara vs double ms obito you deny manga scans omyudon abilities to negate ninshuu gtfoh im not even sure if i can take you serious

You are biased, I know obito is my favorite but I know when he loses a battle. Zetsu is one of my favorites too, does that mean I think he can beat madara?

I'm still using logic regardless of my opinion on obito's character, no bias here, just the truth.

 

[VongolaX]

this is not juubi fool


madara wins ps kurama fusion decimates other bijuus ps sword & bijuu dama spam runs up his 5 minutes of intangibility

Unless chapter 666 didn't exsist...

The only fool here is you :|

Rikudou Obito only has Inyouton/omyoudon and mokuton

That's it...

Moron

 

[Silver Wolf]

I really don't see Obito winning, Madara is portrayed as being the better shinobi, plus the only problem Madara has is Kamui and I already stated how he counters that

 

[VongolaX]

I really don't see Obito winning, Madara is portrayed as being the better shinobi, plus the only problem Madara has is Kamui and I already stated how he counters that

You gave Obito jinchuuriki and Gedo Mazou.

If EMS Madara can't beat SM Hashirama, how can he fight Rinnegan Obito

 

[Unorthodox]

Bull crap, give me the scan stating so. PS is simply a larger stabilized version of susanoo, assuming that it doesn't have room is fanfiction when all other susanoo's have been shown to have some room.
Give me the freaking scan, lmfao.

Its Fanfiction to say there is susanoo only been shown to be not fully solid when the user allows it take a look at Waltz thread he broke it down pefectly

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last paragraph also the difference is it has legs madara is in the diamond and its called perfect susanoo for a reason

BM naruto deflected them with pure chakra, show me susanoo using a shockwave to send them flying. The nonsense you're spewing is rather ridiculous. Lol
You are biased, I know obito is my favorite but I know when he loses a battle. Zetsu is one of my favorites too, does that mean I think he can beat madara?
I'm still using logic regardless of my opinion on obito's character, no bias here, just the truth.

Tsk you know i cannot show you a scan of a bijuu dama flying away from the perfect susanoo shockwaves as they never clashed show me a scan of obito become tangible in susanoo shit like that is impossible to show a scan just common/basic logic high pressure wind or shockwaves could blow bijuu damas back plus his kurama own tbb blows them matchs them out or blow them away not to mention he can shoot way more bijuu damas in less amount of time then the other bijuus

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this happend nigh instant also there is know debate when it comes to zetsu because he is weak and lost every single ninja in the war even fodders you deny logic when it comes to obito stop lying you would even say he > minato if it didnt happen in canon

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Madara high diff.
Kurama will deal with Bijuus.
Madara could beat Obito, he is smart enoug to find a way to past Kamui. Don't forget that Torune and Fu were able to past it.

 

[Silver Wolf]

You gave Obito jinchuuriki and Gedo Mazou.

If EMS Madara can't beat SM Hashirama, how can he fight Rinnegan Obito

Well, of course he couldn't SM Hashirama is the second strongest non-juubi shinobi.

 

[Draphsin]

Its Fanfiction to say there is susanoo only been shown to be not fully solid when the user allows it take a look at Waltz thread he broke it down pefectly

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last paragraph also the difference is it has legs madara is in the diamond and its called perfect susanoo for a reason

- I'm not taking a thread as proof

- It's called perfect because it's susanoo's final form once fully stabilized

- Madara can move around in the diamond, meaning one of two things:

1) That there is room for him to do so, or

2) The chakra isn't solid.

So no matter how you slice it, obito still warps inside seeing as the diamond isn't restricting madara's movements, even if chakra is there.

Tsk you know i cannot show you a scan of a bijuu dama flying away from the perfect susanoo shockwaves as they never clashed show me a scan of obito become tangible in susanoo shit like that is impossible to show a scan just common/basic logic high pressure wind or shockwaves could blow bijuu damas back

Laughable, prove that the shockwave won't just cause the bombs to explode. You can't so you can't make ridiculous claims such as "madara can deflect them all" despite nothing indicating so.

I have given more than evidence to prove that obito can warp inside susanoo, therefore I have a basis to my claim, you have none.

@Bold: Lol what common knowledge? Where on earth has it ever been portrayed that bijuudamas can be deflected by high pressure winds? You're getting worse by the post.

plus his kurama own tbb blows them matchs them out or blow them away not to mention he can shoot way more bijuu damas in less amount of time then the other bijuus

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this happend nigh instant

@Bold: Another baseless claim, what gives you that idea? There is nothing stating that the bijuu can't use just as many bijuudamas as kurama can. Plus the bijuudamas will be fired from multiple directions + the sky, funny if you think that kurama is capable of aiming at & deflecting all the bombs that will be heading it's way.

Even if kurama does manage to hit some, they still blow up in his face as he isn't shooting the bombs far enough away to avoid the explosion, so if anything he's hurting himself more than he isn't.

also there is know debate when it comes to zetsu because he is weak and lost every single ninja in the war even fodders you deny logic when it comes to obito stop lying you would even say he > minato if it didnt happen in canon

@Bold: Again with your nonsense, what's SZ doing? He can't be riding atop a mini-shinsuusenju can he? [<- Sarcasm btw]

Nagato [2nd fave] loses to madara

Sasori loses to kisame

Itachi loses to sasuke, & kabuto, & people can make a case for minato too

As for obito & minato, obito without kurama loses. & It did happen in canon, that's the difference lmao. This battle hasn't happened so bringing up my opinion on a canon battle means absolutely nothing.

So as you can see, I'm not bound by fanboyism, I know my favorite character's places.

 

[VongolaX]

Well, of course he couldn't SM Hashirama is the second strongest non-juubi shinobi.

Both Obito and Madara are above SM Madara.

Obito has rinnegan Justus and mokuton, how does Madara fend against that?

Obito did use Human path on Rikudou Madara if you didn't notice.

 

[Rinnesense]

Not just Madara, but many lack a sufficient counter to the kamui. This jutsu alone would pose a challenge to him.

 

[Silver Wolf]

Both Obito and Madara are above SM Madara.

Obito has rinnegan Justus and mokuton, how does Madara fend against that?

Obito did use Human path on Rikudou Madara if you didn't notice.

No, only Rinnegan Madara is above SM Hashirama and that's not by a big margin, Obito is below them, he just have Kamui he doesn't have the fire power to keep up with these monsters only when he uses Bijuu. And the only Rinnegan technique Obito used was Gedo no jutsu, and the only Omnyoudon jutsus were manifesting black weapons from his chakra and the jutsu that allows him to create white and Black zetsus(But this is kinda useless as well) along with Bakufu ranbou and Mokuton Sashiki no jutsu, Mokuton Daijurin no jutsu along with that other Mokuton technique that took out all the mist ANBU, these are techniques that can't be compared to Madara's arsenal. His most powerful attack would be the combined Bijuu Bomb of 1-7 tailed beasts and attacking with Gedo as his second most powerful jutsu, which is not something Madara can't deal with. The only problem here is Kamui which I already stated how can it be

 

[Silver Wolf]

No, Obito did not use human path against Rikudou Madara, that wasn't human path it was something different

 

[VongolaX]

No, only Rinnegan Madara is above SM Hashirama and that's not by a big margin, Obito is below them, he just have Kamui he doesn't have the fire power to keep up with these monsters only when he uses Bijuu. And the only Rinnegan technique Obito used was Gedo no jutsu, and the only Omnyoudon jutsus were manifesting black weapons from his chakra and the jutsu that allows him to create white and Black zetsus(But this is kinda useless as well) along with Bakufu ranbou and Mokuton Sashiki no jutsu, Mokuton Daijurin no jutsu along with that other Mokuton technique that took out all the mist ANBU, these are techniques that can't be compared to Madara's arsenal. His most powerful attack would be the combined Bijuu Bomb of 1-7 tailed beasts and attacking with Gedo as his second most powerful jutsu, which is not something Madara can't deal with. The only problem here is Kamui which I already stated how can it be

Well, Omyoudon delete just about almost anything like it did Sasuke's Susanoo hand.

Even mokuton would lose its meaning...

Now don't you remember when Obito's arm flickered in flames and he pulled out Ichibi and Hachibi's chakra?

That's human path you know...

 

[Draphsin]

No, Obito did not use human path against Rikudou Madara, that wasn't human path it was something different

Obito already stated that he can use human path. [

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[VongolaX]

No, Obito did not use human path against Rikudou Madara, that wasn't human path it was something different

Then what is it?

He was able to rip it out of Madara...

Is it Preta path then?

 

[Silver Wolf]

Well, Omyoudon delete just about almost anything like it did Sasuke's Susanoo hand.

Even mokuton would lose its meaning...

Now don't you remember when Obito's arm flickered in flames and he pulled out Ichibi and Hachibi's chakra?

That's human path you know...

Well, I might agree to the human path but no to the jutsu that deletes anything that's a jutsu he only used as the juubi's host. Still I was able to give you counters to all of Obito's jutsu, the only problem is kamui, as it's his most powerful jutsu, as well as 1-7 bijuu and gedo mazo and as long as that is countered there will be no problems

 

[Silver Wolf]

Then what is it?

He was able to rip it out of Madara...

Is it Preta path then?

I'm not sure, it might not even be a Rinnegan jutsu, just a simple chakra absorption technique being used very skillfully, as Madara was able to do something similar to Hashirama, does that makes it preta path? No Anyway Madara wins med-diff.