Madara vs Kaguya

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This is Kaguya before she took in a massive amount of chakra from IT

This is Fanfic Kamui Madara:

1. his Sharinnegan also gives him both powers of kamui (intangibility and sniping):

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2. He also has kamui shuriken

Scenario 1: As above
Scenario 2: Kaguya can open portals, but not dimension shift.

Can he win?
 

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Anybody who can dimension travel with Vote2 level Sasuke power and above beats the breaks off kaguya

Kidgamer thinks Toneri with both half's of hago chakra would lose to ha fool ass man.
 

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Yomotsu Hirasaka (Kaguya portals ) can be open even in another dimension. So even if Madara send her to Kamui dimension She will use Yomotsu and return to previous dimension.

Kaguya has more chakra so She outlast Madara (He can´t go intangible forever)

Kaguya mid diff .
 

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Madara wins with DMS abilities.
 

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Anybody who can dimension travel with Vote2 level Sasuke power and above beats the breaks off kaguya

Kidgamer thinks Toneri with both half's of hago chakra would lose to ha fool ass man.

I think you underrate Kaguya. Remember Sasuke and Naruto (and Kakashi) who were 3 god levels barely managed to seal her (which only included touching her simultaneously).

I rofl at your face if you think VOTE 2 Sasuke can taker her. Lmao.

@OP: I don't get what Kaguya is this?
 

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Anybody who can dimension travel with Vote2 level Sasuke power and above beats the breaks off kaguya

Kidgamer thinks Toneri with both half's of hago chakra would lose to ha fool ass man.

Because he does lose my little fan. It's hilarious that you think someone on par with The Last BSM Naruto will soar above Kaguya when Hagoromo himself is far stronger than Toneri and doesn't even become stronger than Kaguya when he gets the Juubi.

:lol
 
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The only issue in Madara's arsenal in intangibility, but considering the Expansive Gudo Dama can grow to a size where Kakashi said that he would be able to warp away to the Kamui dimension, but be unable to warp back pretty much solidifies that intangibility only gives him a loss by BFR, Running to another of Kaguya's dimensions won't work since she'll just shift the entire battlefield. And that's assuming she makes use of Yomotsu Hirasaka given what happened with it when she used it against people with the same moveset as Madara.

-Susanoo is wrecked.
-CT is wrecked.
-Kamui Shuriken are dodged or blocked.
-Long range Kamui is dodged.

If Expansive Gudo Dama is restricted, then intangibility will be a B to counter, though worst case scenario she just outlasts him since the addition of Kamui doesn't give him a way to overpower and finish her. Though the Acid Dimension can be a solid counter for intangibility provided that:

-Kaguya can effectively fight (we all know she'll survive) in that dimension.
-Kaguya can push Madara to a point where he can't muster up any defenses strong enough to block out the Acid.
-Kaguya obliterates his Gudo Dama.
-Limbo are seen and punked.
-Clones are wiped out.

Thus he'll be left bathing in a sea of acid, forcing him to stay intangible for 5 minutes, and after those 5 minutes he gets killed. Something similar can be done with the Lava Dimension if she can control every single aspect of the dimension, which I'm sure she can.

She might lose S2 though since she can't shift dimensions. Though that's only if the Gudo Dama is restricted in S2, if not, that's her ticket to victory. Even then, she might still outlast.
 
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Kaguya loses. Her offensive techs are never landing she'll tire herself out via dimension shifts. Ash bone gets sniped. Vaccum Palms are sniped as well. Please elaborate on how someone blocks Kamui shurikens? Kaguya's only projectiles are Ash bone and Vaccum Palms.

She doesn't stand a chance. Kakashi already man handled her with DMS alone tbh. No she isn't blitzing what's so ever.
Because he does lose my little fan. It's hilarious that you think someone on par with The Last BSM Naruto will soar above Kaguya when Hagoromo himself is far stronger than Toneri and doesn't even become stronger than Kaguya when he gets the Juubi.

:lol
This makes 0 sense. BSM Naruto who was tiers below 1 eye Juubi Jin Madara was pushed tiers above him just by getting half of Hagoromo powers. Toneri who is already on that level will be boosted tiers above his old level and he'll be getting both half's of Hagoromo chakra. But your the best debater so i guess you know what your talking about:lmao:.
Thus he'll be left bathing in a sea of acid, forcing him to stay intangible for 5 minutes, and after those 5 minutes he gets killed. Something similar can be done with the Lava Dimension if she can control every single aspect of the dimension, which I'm sure she can.

She might lose S2 though since she can't shift dimensions. Though that's only if the Gudo Dama is restricted in S2, if not, that's her ticket to victory. Even then, she might still outlast.
Acid is absorbed or blocked via TSB's or even a rib cage Susanoo. Same thing goes with Lava and then theirs the fact that he can fly. What makes you certain that the acid or Lava can even melt his skin? Also if it's melting and burning his skin the same shall be done against her skin. Anyways fail strategy through and through.
 
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Kaguya loses. Her offensive techs are never landing she'll tire herself out via dimension shifts. Ash bone gets sniped. Vaccum Palms are sniped as well. Please elaborate on how someone blocks Kamui shurikens? Kaguya's only projectiles are Ash bone and Vaccum Palms. She doesn't stand a chance. Kakashi already man handled her with DMS alone tbh. No she isn't blitzing what's so ever.
This makes 0 sense. BSM Naruto who was tiers below 1 eye Juubi Jin Madara was pushed tiers above him just by getting half of Hagoromo powers. Toneri who is already on that level will be boosted tiers above his old level and he'll be getting both half's of Hagoromo chakra. But your the best debater so i guess you know what your talking about:lmao:.
Acid is absorbed or blocked via TSB's or even a rib cage Susanoo. Same thing goes with Lava and then theirs the fact that he can fly. What makes you certain that the acid or Lava can even melt his skin? Also if it's melting and burning his skin the same shall be done against her skin. Anyways fail strategy through and through.
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The unstriked parts are the parts I care about. Does anyone who isn't a self proclaimed Obito and Kamui wanker/fanboy have anything to say on this match up?
 

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The unstriked parts are the parts I care about. Does anyone who isn't a self proclaimed Obito and Kamui wanker/fanboy have anything to say on this match up?
Said the same thing on the previous thread with Naruto and Sasuke ended up conceding 15 post later. Enough with your excuses we had an official debate and you couldn't beat me their either.

Lol cut that Kamui wank shit out.
Ok. Madara wins.
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That "cut that Kamui wank shit out" post was directed at this:

Kamui is best jutsu in NV and with it Madara sh1ts.

Give dual Kamui to Juubito and he will also win way easily
Give any top tier kamui and they'd win times 100...

Had jack to do with the match up, but considering you've already shown us that you read the Manga left to right, you also having a kindergartner's level of reading comprehension doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
 

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That "cut that Kamui wank shit out" post was directed at this:




Had jack to do with the match up, but considering you've already shown us that you read the Manga left to right, you also having a kindergartner's level of reading comprehension doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
Then you made this terrible post.

But yeah, not seeing how Madara wins either scenario. His Susanoo is easily nuked. His CT are easily countered, and long range Kamui is useless due to speed and teleportation and clones, and short range Kamui is even more useless for the simple fact that he won't be able to lay his hands on either of them.

Kamui Shuriken can be intercepted with PS Chidori Senbon. Madara dies a terrible death in both scenarios.

Keep bringing that Left to right stuff up me reading it the opposite way and you the pro claimed best debater still failed to beat me in an official debate.

Don't reply if you have nothing to say about the match up that's present.
 

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Don't feel like entertaining a retard today. Try again next time. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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Don't feel like entertaining a retard today. Try again next time. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Just because your a Librarian doesn't mean your smart LMAO...

Let the bold be your favorite excuse if you really didn't give a sh*t about my post why am i not on your ignore list please enlighten me?

Also Enough sneak dissin on me in the Unorthodox discussion please!
 

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I think you underrate Kaguya. Remember Sasuke and Naruto (and Kakashi) who were 3 god levels barely managed to seal her (which only included touching her simultaneously).

I rofl at your face if you think VOTE 2 Sasuke can taker her. Lmao.

@OP: I don't get what Kaguya is this?

When Kakashi got DMS they defeated her ass in a single chapter how was that barely? Only thing she has on VOTE2 Sasuke is Super Gudo Dama and realm switch.

Because he does lose my little fan. It's hilarious that you think someone on par with The Last BSM Naruto will soar above Kaguya when Hagoromo himself is far stronger than Toneri and doesn't even become stronger than Kaguya when he gets the Juubi.

BSM Naruto did not exist anymore after the Hagoromo boost fool since when could BSM Naruto fly? How could BSM Naruto touch Gudo Dama blocked a moon slicer stomps on any feat RSM Naruto has shown. 1 half of Hagoromo power put Base Rikudou Naruto above 1 eye rinnegan Madara (Before shinju absorbed) 1 half of that power put BSM Naruto on a level where he could fight against Kaguya hell blitz her ass to. Toneri negs Juubito who negs BSM naruto in every facit of fighting

Giving him both Halfs grants him the seal one touch and its game she was blitz by Naruto nb4 she was tired excuse

Toneri speed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BSM Naruto's & EMS Sasuke's

1 Half of Hagoromo's Chakra Toneri speed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RSM Naruto speed

Full Hagoromo Chakra Toneri >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RSM Naruto add ameno Kaguya gets that ass moped.

Toneri vs Hagoromo is debatable restrict Rinnegan genjutsu and Toneri can win Hagoromo's greatest non feat feat was creating a moon while Toneri out right split it like it was no problem.

Kaguya gets negged add the fact that it was not just Toneri in that thread it was JJ Madz and JJ Obito with DMS and you still said she'd win SMH!.
 
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Same washed up argumentation. :lol What did I expect?
 

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This matchup again. Kaguya kills him in her sleep. That has allready been shown in the Manga.
Actually, nevermind. Didn't bother reading this, thought it would just be some Madara fanboy whinging. That's what most Madara V Kaguya threads are, afterall.

Kaguya still wins. All she needs to do is get Black Zetsu to stab him from Behind. If he doesn't react with normal rinne-sharingan, why would he be able to react with Mangekyo Rinne-Sharingan.
 
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The only issue in Madara's arsenal in intangibility, but considering the Expansive Gudo Dama can grow to a size where Kakashi said that he would be able to warp away to the Kamui dimension, but be unable to warp back pretty much solidifies that intangibility only gives him a loss by BFR, Running to another of Kaguya's dimensions won't work since she'll just shift the entire battlefield. And that's assuming she makes use of Yomotsu Hirasaka given what happened with it when she used it against people with the same moveset as Madara.
Now, i have nothing against you saying Madara gets shitstomped. He does. But the BFR argument is stupid. Everything i cut out is fine.

If both parties involved can travel through Dimensions, in what way does one dimension being inaccessible cause a BFR to either party? Kaguya can easily follow Madara and start beating him up there instead.
 
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