[VS] Madara versus Obito

[xcoyote]

Obito can do this if he warps the wrong Madara.

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[Unorthodox]

Obito can do this if he warps the wrong Madara.

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obito is finished with 1 handsigh also you think a clone will sit there in just let him rewarp it i dont think so also what stops the clone from making more bushin

 

[Shura]

Obito can do this if he warps the wrong Madara.

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Fair point.. With that said.. I agree. Obito wins.

 

[Draphsin]

That may be a fair point, but anyways.. Multiple Mokuton Dragons should be capable of stoping the Bijuu. And I still find it unlikely that Obito can recognize which is the real Madara and which are the Mokuton Bunshin so he still can get tricked unless you can convince me that Obito can recognize which is the real one.

Mokuton dragons are useless, obito simply

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the bijuu back to their

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& they can run around the battlefield at an

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pace.

My point is that even though obito has no real way to differentiate between the clones (although when madara uses his clones he tends not to participate himself), he can still use the bijuu to overwhelm them & force madara to use PS.

 

[Shura]

Mokuton dragons are useless, obito simply

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the bijuu back to their

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& they can run around the battlefield at an

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pace.

My point is that even though obito has no real way to differentiate between the clones (although when madara uses his clones he tends not to participate himself), he can still use the bijuu to overwhelm them & force madara to use PS.

You're late. I already agreed that Obito wins.

 

[Draphsin]

You're late. I already agreed that Obito wins.

I noticed, lol.

 

[Unorthodox]

Mokuton dragons are useless, obito simply

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the bijuu back to their

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& they can run around the battlefield at an

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pace.

My point is that even though obito has no real way to differentiate between the clones (although when madara uses his clones he tends not to participate himself), he can still use the bijuu to overwhelm them & force madara to use PS.

useless when in those lesser forms the wood forest shits on them or susanoo clones not to mention a low level mokuton user like yamato surpressed 4 tails naruto madara wood clones shits forcing him to ps for what once ps comes out game over

You're late. I already agreed that Obito wins.

your clearly lack info on madara

 

[Shura]

your clearly lack info on madara

Nope. Madara just lacks a counter to Kamui.

 

[Transcendence]

Madara lacks any sufficient counter to Kamui. Beyond that, they both have very comparable chakra reserves, so outlasting one or the other isn't an option.

Obito would win, albeit, very high difficulty.

 

[Strict]

No, Madara takes this. Can't he influence Obitos control over the Bijuu with his Outer-Path, as they are controlled with the Outer-Path's Chakra receivers? Obito's Rinnegan is Madara's. Madara can even control Obito's body, but well, let's not count this advantage of Madara.. if Madara has enough Chakra to create 25 clones with Susanoo, he would have enough Chakra to create 2 Mokuton Bunshin for each Jinchuriki, able to use MS, Rinnegan and Mokuton techniques like Susanoo, Preta-Path and Chakra suppressing Mokuton. Of course after he already covered the whole battlefield with his Flower Tree World. Madara wouldn't even need to actively participate in the fight if he has a bunch of Mokuton Bunhin with a humans durability and Susanoo. Let Obito absorb one clone into his other dimension, and he will have the problem of a clone which can use Susanoo and stays in his other realm.

Madara hs no "counter" for Kamui. Has Obito a counter for anything Madara spamms?

Madara can make Obito his bitch with the Outer-Path..

 

[Draphsin]

useless when in those lesser forms the wood forest shits on them

Obviously you missed the speed at which those modes travel.

SHow me madara's mokuton "shitting" on anything that can give KCM naruto a hard time & this may be a fair point

or susanoo clones

Obito turns them back into bijuu, bijuudamas will take them out, chomei can fly so no matter what you say she isnt getting damaged by susanoo clones.

not to mention a low level mokuton user like yamato surpressed 4 tails naruto

Sorry but since when was abc logic a valid argument? Naruto was going berserk, he couldnt tell friend from foe & he lacked the ability to transform into a bijuu at will. Not to mention obito's jinchuuriki were able to catch naruto off guard. I guess yamato can restrain KCM naruto now too?

madara wood clones shits

Wood clones get sh@t on :heh:

forcing him to ps for what once ps comes out game over

Obito then warps inside of susanoo.

Chakra inside of susanoo is not solid otherwise how would it be able to move, not to mention the user himself can move around inside. Also its been shown multiple times that there is space around the user as well.

 

[Unorthodox]

Obviously you missed the speed at which those modes travel.

SHow me madara's mokuton "shitting" on anything that can give KCM naruto a hard time & this may be a fair point
Obito turns them back into bijuu, bijuudamas will take them out, chomei can fly so no matter what you say she isnt getting damaged by susanoo clones.

KMC naruto has nothing to do with this and i would like to see kmc naruto handle the pollen world or madara's meteor
1 this what happens when there in bijuu form of not

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the whole forest swallows them hole not to mention his clones have preta path bijuu damas useless anyways also he stalemate obito's chakra rods with his own occular chains in take control of obito bijuu with mokuton

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if it can controll juubi his bijuu are sitting ducks
also each set of clones can have wood dragons waiting for them to turn into the bijuu forms anyways not to mention there put right to sleep

Sorry but since when was abc logic a valid argument? Naruto was going berserk, he couldnt tell friend from foe & he lacked the ability to transform into a bijuu at will. Not to mention obito's jinchuuriki were able to catch naruto off guard. I guess yamato can restrain KCM naruto now too?
Wood clones get sh@t on :heh:
Obito then warps inside of susanoo.
Chakra inside of susanoo is not solid otherwise how would it be able to move, not to mention the user himself can move around inside. Also its been shown multiple times that there is space around the user as well.

only able to catch naruto off gaurd with all the trees around not to mention that jinchuriki bright light thing its not abc logic its mokuton > surpress bijuu chakra logic

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Susanoo is indeed solid as the user choses who they want to enter susanoo and even it wasit solid ps is so big madara would have more then enough time to run around in it or he simply hides in his mokuton forest

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[Draphsin]

Use spoilers, for god's sake..

KMC naruto has nothing to do with this and i would like to see kmc naruto handle the pollen world or madara's meteor

Yes he does if you looked at my scan you would see that they were able to give naruto a hard time due to their speed.

Naruto evades by simply using shunshin to move far enough away. & btw FTW doesnt work on dead bodies, you cant put the dead to sleep.

As for the meteor, before it hits obito warps his jinchuuriki to the other dimension, along with himself.

& yes this is viable because obito can see chakra & movements before they happen, he will notice the jutsu before its too late.

1 this what happens when there in bijuu form of not

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the whole forest swallows them hole

As I said bijuu change their size, mokuton restrains are easily slipped through. Not to mention son goku has

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, saiken has

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, isobu can

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, & chomei can fly. So more than half of the bijuu already have counters for mokuton restraints, the only two who could get caught are matabi & kokuo.

As for FTW, it can't put a dead shinobi to sleep, & obito can wipe the forest away with the bijuudama from a distance (via chomei) if need be.

not to mention his clones have preta path bijuu damas useless anyways also he stalemate

Wrong, preta is slow. If a clone tries to absorb it then it becomes a sitting duck & essentially out of battle, if madara stops the preta it explodes, if obito shoots another tbb at the current tbb that's being absorbed then it also explodes.

Preta is a terrible counter to tbbs, if anything obito can simply shoot the ground around madara, thus avoiding preta altogether. If madara wants to stop the attack then he has to sacrifice a clone.

obito's chakra rods with his own occular chains in take control of obito bijuu with mokuton

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if it can control juubi his bijuu are sitting ducks

Are you saying that madara can control obito's paths via mokuton....?..I don't even...

also each set of clones can have wood dragons waiting for them to turn into the bijuu forms anyways not to mention there put right to sleep

Explained all this, mokuton is avoided/countered by half of the bijuu already. Sleep is not a problem unless they're bijuu but chomei takes care of it.

only able to catch naruto off gaurd with all the trees around not to mention that jinchuriki bright light thing its not abc logic its mokuton > surpress bijuu chakra logic

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Wrong, look at the scan again. The bijuu were able to catch him off guard due to sheer speed, don't give excuses.

Yamato was restraining a naruto who had no counters to mokuton & had no way to increase/decrease his size. Saying that madara can restrain the bijuu because yamato can restrain naruto is abc logic. You failed to take into account the situation. Obito's V2 >>>> Naruto's V2, simple.

Susanoo is indeed solid as the user choses who they want to enter susanoo and even it wasit solid ps is so big madara would have more then enough time to run around in it or he simply hides in his mokuton forest

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It is not solid, the bones of susanoo are solid but the chakra surrounding it is not. The only thing that is solid on ps (other than the bones) is the outside armor, otherwise it would be impossible to move.

Chakra can be pushed aside just like air/water, it is not a solid substance (like the bones/armor) & therefore it will move when something solid is in its place.

As for madara noticing that obito will warp behind him, lol keep dreaming. Minato barely did it & he has superior reflexes & a s/t jutsu, sorry to say but once madara is grabbed then he loses.

 

[Bronze]

Madara wins from mid to high diff.

 

[Unorthodox]

Use spoilers, for god's sake..



Yes he does if you looked at my scan you would see that they were able to give naruto a hard time due to their speed.

Naruto evades by simply using shunshin to move far enough away. & btw FTW doesnt work on dead bodies, you cant put the dead to sleep.

As for the meteor, before it hits obito warps his jinchuuriki to the other dimension, along with himself.

& yes this is viable because obito can see chakra & movements before they happen, he will notice the jutsu before its too late.



As I said bijuu change their size, mokuton restrains are easily slipped through. Not to mention son goku has

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, saiken has

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, isobu can

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, & chomei can fly. So more than half of the bijuu already have counters for mokuton restraints, the only two who could get caught are matabi & kokuo.

As for FTW, it can't put a dead shinobi to sleep, & obito can wipe the forest away with the bijuudama from a distance (via chomei) if need be.



Wrong, preta is slow. If a clone tries to absorb it then it becomes a sitting duck & essentially out of battle, if madara stops the preta it explodes, if obito shoots another tbb at the current tbb that's being absorbed then it also explodes.

Preta is a terrible counter to tbbs, if anything obito can simply shoot the ground around madara, thus avoiding preta altogether. If madara wants to stop the attack then he has to sacrifice a clone.



Are you saying that madara can control obito's paths via mokuton....?..I don't even...



Explained all this, mokuton is avoided/countered by half of the bijuu already. Sleep is not a problem unless they're bijuu but chomei takes care of it.



Wrong, look at the scan again. The bijuu were able to catch him off guard due to sheer speed, don't give excuses.

Yamato was restraining a naruto who had no counters to mokuton & had no way to increase/decrease his size. Saying that madara can restrain the bijuu because yamato can restrain naruto is abc logic. You failed to take into account the situation. Obito's V2 >>>> Naruto's V2, simple.




It is not solid, the bones of susanoo are solid but the chakra surrounding it is not. The only thing that is solid on ps (other than the bones) is the outside armor, otherwise it would be impossible to move.

Chakra can be pushed aside just like air/water, it is not a solid substance (like the bones/armor) & therefore it will move when something solid is in its place.

As for madara noticing that obito will warp behind him, lol keep dreaming. Minato barely did it & he has superior reflexes & a s/t jutsu, sorry to say but once madara is grabbed then he loses.

untill obito can counter this

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[Minator93]

Obito wins this in 5 mins U_U

Madara has nothing against the Kamui U_U

 

[Draphsin]

untill obito can counter this

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Obito warps to kamui land. madara can't control him from there :heh:

 

[Unorthodox]

Obito wins this in 5 mins U_U

Madara has nothing against the Kamui U_U

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what was that

Obito warps to kamui land. madara can't control him from there :heh:

madara wins by default

 

[Draphsin]

madara wins by default

Not a viable counter.

Seems like obito wins :hypertobi:

 

[Unorthodox]

Not a viable counter.

Seems like obito wins :hypertobi:

so obito hiding in his own world makes that a win for him? tsk just stawp