[VS] Madara Uchiha vs Edward Newgates

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Madara wins low diff

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Try using google it would show you that im right. L0l flash lived up to his hype he ran through time virbrated his body into different dimensions etc. Also if you really believe in all of One piece hyperbole.

Why would I look through things that are irrelevant to my points. Especially when your arguments have concede. Flash living up to his feats you mean? Obviously that is true, considering he can move faster then light speed and yet didn't have to experience everything you just stated in a fictional world.

No where in my argument did I use hyperbole, as I gave you a statement backed up with its action feats, period. Did you have trouble clicking on the scans for proof?

 

[TRE MERCER]

Why would I look through things that are irrelevant to my points. Especially when your arguments have concede. Flash living up to his feats you mean? Obviously that is true, considering he can move faster then light speed and yet didn't have to experience everything you just stated in a fictional world.

No where in my argument did I use hyperbole, as I gave you a statement backed up with its action feats, period. Did you have trouble clicking on the scans for proof?

I know everything is in a fictional world but until Kizaru show feats suggesting that he can move anywhere near the speed of light then we can debate. Also NV is far superior to Opv atm the moment the fact that you compare Wb to Sm Rinnegan Madara is just ludicrous. Kuma could one shot WB.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

I know everything is in a fictional world but until Kizaru show feats suggesting that he can move anywhere near the speed of light then we can debate.

Except I just post it. Maybe you aren't good at clicking links so let me repost them:

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This statement is still backed up when facing Luffy, who is higher then hypersonic speed:

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I would go even further to show the blitz he did to Drake:

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Also NV is far superior to Opv atm the moment the fact that you compare Wb to Sm Rinnegan Madara is just ludicrous.

No one brought any arguments to state Madara standing a chance, so far all I see is concession.

Kuma could one shot WB.

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Thats nice and all /sarcasm.

Kuma solos Madara too

 

[BlackFlame44]

Except I just post it. Maybe you aren't good at clicking links so let me repost them:

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This statement is still backed up when facing Luffy, who is higher then hypersonic speed:

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I would go even further to show the blitz he did to Drake:

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No one brought any arguments to state Madara standing a chance, so far all I see is concession.

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Thats nice and all /sarcasm.

Kuma solos Madara too

Do you know how fast light speed is? Light speed is going from here to the moon in literally one second, nothing surpasses it

That kind of force wouldn't just crush a building it'd turn the entire area to dust

Light Speed Kicks are just hype

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Do you know how fast light speed is? Light speed is going from here to the moon in literally one second, nothing surpasses it

That kind of force wouldn't just crush a building it'd turn the entire area to dust

Light Speed Kicks are just hype

Except you are being to specific in distance it go can. Which is irreverent to the argument.

Would you argue that Flash can run to the moon (Starting point at Earth) in one sec?

 

[Aikor]

I didnt read any of the comments but i say Madara wins.. =D

 

[Aikor]

But really why compare someone from another anime...if ur sayin hes good then genjutsu ftw tht will leave him helpless and madara kills him

 

[Brother Numpsay]

But really why compare someone from another anime...if ur sayin hes good then genjutsu ftw tht will leave him helpless and madara kills him

That would be if the metaphysical world is the same, for that to apply. If not then No genjutsu will work to someone who has no chakra,

 

[Aikor]

That would be if the metaphysical world is the same, for that to apply. If not then No genjutsu will work to someone who has no chakra,

If ur comparin 2 anime then u apply the logics of the 2 anime..if there is no chakra then its no use comparin Madara and edward..why?cause no chakra then no madara..so chakra should exist as its one of the logics of naruto and so it will apply on another anime too..this is why its hard to compare 2 different animes

 

[VongolaX]

Edward newgates would win

He can open the earths crust and launch Madara down the earths core, close it up and would be the end.

The guys rival were people who could move islands and mountains with ease, and those who hold the power of omniscient.

Ancient weapons of gods.

There's a huge difference in power

 

[Unorthodox]

Wrong sense WhiteBeard had already show to react to the speed of light.
NO characters in Naruto was said to move at that kind of speed. Naruto characters has only stated to move as fast as lightening, and then and above bit by bit (and not even consecutively).
None of Madara's jutsu will not be too fast to him for him to react to.

Kizaru moving at light speed is a hyperbole thats why i dont get into these debates really because onepiece characters can only be debated with hype because the hole verse is nothing but hype atleast the op characters are. Now do you know how fast light speed is if kizaru could move at lightspeed he could kill alll the enemies of the marins in 1 second no hst character moves at lightspeed because light speed is unseen if kizaru really kicked him a light speed it would have had the effects of an atomic bomb especially due to his size and for whitebeard to be as fast as you claim akainu and his fight was slow he is smacked with limbo.

So? That jutsu becomes a bigger target to WhiteBeard DC, his power magnetitue (which I already said) enables him to part the clouds. One good swing, embedded with his Vibrate ability on top of that (this goes to Perfect Sussanoo too), And these Giant Colossal's are either broken down or cut down.

PS sword slash stilll kills him Perfect susanoo can is well islande level durability multiply sword slashes will overpower his quakes further akainu with his logia body nullified took one of whitebeards strongest quakes and just cought up blood.

Assuming Limbo can do more then act as a invisible, physical force. And reaction was addressed above

you cannot react to limbo especially when you have no knowledge on it plus it one shotted 9 bijuu in a sigle instances.

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Nope, manga never said that. It was stated because Sasuke now has the renningan he could see it (Madara's words himself) and stated that Naruto can sense it now and Kishimoto didn't break down how far his sense ability has surpassed to.

Whitebeard has no rinnegan, Madara stated with the sage chakra naruto was able to sense it

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furthermore sm who was able to sense the hole world behind

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is a far greater feat than any observation haki has shown limbo kills him as been stated above.

Dude just because name said Color doesn't mean you sense things in color, lel.

Haki's sense was made clear by Silver:

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already ended this haki argument

Lol not so fast. This was explained already. It was stated that Sengoku brought in material that was able to absorb most of WhiteBeards, vibrate attacks. You should know by know that the material world of one piece is superior then Naruto verse to begin with and even then some of the vibrations still got through the product [

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he just said it was some special iron never said it absorbed vibrations if thats possible Perfect susanoo is stronger than iron plus has shown great Destructive power than whitebeard with only 1 sword not all 4

-All of this was address none of it was the DC of WhiteBeard.

-The 6th sense and reaction feats leave no surprises to any of their sneaky jutsus

-All are vulnerable to his destructive vibrations, so defense is useless

Im just warming up brah brah

his strongest quake couldnt kill akainu so yes perfect susanoo easily tanks let alone ps wraped is SS

Limbo is unseen from anything on this world except the sage enhance sensing or rinneg witch whitebeard lacks

Edward newgates would win

He can open the earths crust and launch Madara down the earths core, close it up and would be the end.

The guys rival were people who could move islands and mountains with ease, and those who hold the power of omniscient.

Ancient weapons of gods.

There's a huge difference in power

whitebeard cannot even destroy akainu let alone do this no one in one piece moved an island where as manda 2 fliped one over destroying or even vaporizing mountains is done by people hebi sasuke's tier no one in the HST verse combine is omniscient or omni anything for that matter one piece has no ancient weapons nor do they have gods this hole post was fanfic

 

[BlackFlame44]

Edward newgates would win

He can open the earths crust and launch Madara down the earths core, close it up and would be the end.

The guys rival were people who could move islands and mountains with ease, and those who hold the power of omniscient.

Ancient weapons of gods.

There's a huge difference in power

OPTards make the best fanfics

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Kizaru moving at light speed is a hyperbole thats why i dont get into these debates really because onepiece characters can only be debated with hype because the hole verse is nothing but hype atleast the op characters are. Now do you know how fast light speed is if kizaru could move at lightspeed he could kill alll the enemies of the marins in 1 second no hst character moves at lightspeed because light speed is unseen if kizaru really kicked him a light speed it would have had the effects of an atomic bomb especially due to his size and for whitebeard to be as fast as you claim akainu and his fight was slow he is smacked with limbo.

Characters reacting to light speed is an impressive feats for the fictional character nothing else. Just how people in DC can react to Flash (faster then light) which no one will discredit.

I NEVER said Edward can move as fast as Kizaru. My point was to show you that there is NO speed in Naruto, even Madara, that Edward would not be able to keep up or react too, period.

PS sword slash stilll kills him Perfect susanoo can is well islande level durability multiply sword slashes will overpower his quakes further akainu with his logia body nullified took one of whitebeards strongest quakes and just cought up blood.

Thats an impressive feat for Anainu, nothing you stated discredit Edwards power. PS is dif not Island level durability considering 30-40%( since most of them were blown away by TBB+PS sword) of SS Mokuton punches was able to strip off its ability. Edwards DC surpasses to what Madara has possess. Edwards superioir Shockwaves overpowers Madaras (since his power can reach up to the clouds) because Madara's can only reach out to mountains.

you cannot react to limbo especially when you have no knowledge on it plus it one shotted 9 bijuu in a sigle instances.

Unless you have 6th sense which, which Silver in one translation reaches in elevated degree

Elevated: situated or placed higher than the surrounding area.

Whitebeard has no rinnegan, Madara stated with the sage chakra naruto was able to sense it

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is a far greater feat than any observation haki has shown limbo kills him as been stated above.

When did I say he can see it? You stated Sage chakra Naruto was only way to sense. NONE of your scans said it was the only way. So this proof holds no water.

already ended this haki argument

Nope

he just said it was some special iron never said it absorbed vibrations if thats possible Perfect susanoo is stronger than iron plus has shown great Destructive power than whitebeard with only 1 sword not all 4

Why does it need to say it absorbed it when the picture showed and demonstrated to what happened? So once again its a special material to absorb vibrations. Theres Iron and then there special Iron for One piece world. One piece Iron can be embedded with Haki one top of that so Susanoo superior density is irrelevant to the outcome.

NO Edward has show much greater DC then Madara. Bring up something that Madara can do that makes his DC much better then Whitebeard. WHICH his shockwaves reached up to the sky and departs the clouds.

his strongest quake couldnt kill akainu so yes perfect susanoo easily tanks let alone ps wraped is SS

No wrong comparision. Only explaining an impressive feat of Akaniu. PS and SS is vulnerable to vibrations. Added with Edwards super human strength, the energy output breaks down PS and SS with no diff.

Limbo is unseen from anything on this world except the sage enhance sensing or rinneg witch whitebeard lacks

Except COO enables senses to elevated degree which can't any closer to the way Naruto has sense it

 

[Unorthodox]

Characters reacting to light speed is an impressive feats for the fictional character nothing else. Just how people in DC can react to Flash (faster then light) which no one will discredit.

I NEVER said Edward can move as fast as Kizaru. My point was to show you that there is NO speed in Naruto, even Madara, that Edward would not be able to keep up or react too, period.

Flash is faster than the speed of light ofcourse DC characters are so fast the break the time barrier sneezes solar systems away dont compare furthermore flash average running speed in the anime's arnt light speed however his top speed is witch he rarely use in a fight unless he bloodlusted. Fact still remains feat wise no one in the hst verse has ever moved anywhere near light speed so you can throw that argument out the window.

Thats an impressive feat for Anainu, nothing you stated discredit Edwards power. PS is dif not Island level durability considering 30-40%( since most of them were blown away by TBB+PS sword) of SS Mokuton punches was able to strip off its ability. Edwards DC surpasses to what Madara has possess. Edwards superioir Shockwaves overpowers Madaras (since his power can reach up to the clouds) because Madara's can only reach out to mountains.

Akainu without his logia body durability is shit compared to perfect susanoo dont try to say it isnt because he has been a logia for a long time he doesnt practice with his normal body durability. Madara's Perfect susanoo was pounded by Shinsuusenjutsu arms along with in the Aoe of 15 exploding tbb witch is far superior to Whitebeard destructive power you keep brining up this reach the cloud bs what does that even mean madara has never aimed is ps sword upwards further more he is able to cut mountain range without touching anything just swing his blade in mid air once again that is one blade perfect susanoo holds 4 he overpowers whitebeard wit his shockwaves. Perfect susanoo is infact island level 15 tailed beast bombs could destroy a island as once is able to vaporize a mountain madara took all of that and his perfect susanoo didnt give way he chakra was why his perfect susanoo was removed not because it was destroyed.

Unless you have 6th sense which, which Silver in one translation reaches in elevated degree
Elevated: situated or placed higher than the surrounding area.

limbo is still unseen its your fanfic that it is stop with your shitty arguments

When did I say he can see it? You stated Sage chakra Naruto was only way to sense. NONE of your scans said it was the only way. So this proof holds no water.

Madara was surprised he could sense him knowing naruto was a sage mode user he would know about sensing he has fought hashirama who is a sm user and sage mode has shown greater sensory then any haki and what is whitebeard feats with observation haki anyways?

Nope

Yes it was already shitted on but its okay if you deny facts

Why does it need to say it absorbed it when the picture showed and demonstrated to what happened? So once again its a special material to absorb vibrations. Theres Iron and then there special Iron for One piece world. One piece Iron can be embedded with Haki one top of that so Susanoo superior density is irrelevant to the outcome.

Exactly is your opinion on what happend it was iron that tanked his quake i can be embedded with haki their is no evidence that it was those quakes just arnt as powerful as op fans try to make them out to be

NO Edward has show much greater DC then Madara. Bring up something that Madara can do that makes his DC much better then Whitebeard. WHICH his shockwaves reached up to the sky and departs the clouds.

Whitebeard shockwaves reaching the clouds still not getting how this is relevant when he rarely destroyed anything Madara perfect susanoo wraped over SS triumps over anything white has to show 2000 perfect susanoo blades whitebeard cannot compete plus limbo still 1 shots.

No wrong comparision. Only explaining an impressive feat of Akaniu. PS and SS is vulnerable to vibrations. Added with Edwards super human strength, the energy output breaks down PS and SS with no diff.

No it just shows how hyped your trying to make his quakes akainu body durability cannot compare to perfect susanoo his vibrations are outmatched by madara's shockwaves as i already explained

Except COO enables senses to elevated degree which can't any closer to the way Naruto has sense it

naruto still has shown greater sense is the top 5 best sensors in the HST current plus with the sage power he was only able to sense limbo if it could increase naruto speed to where he blitz juubi jinz has island size tbbs his sensing went out the roof you cant compare it to a featless whitebeard still.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Flash is faster than the speed of light ofcourse DC characters are so fast the break the time barrier sneezes solar systems away dont compare furthermore flash average running speed in the anime's arnt light speed however his top speed is witch he rarely use in a fight unless he bloodlusted. Fact still remains feat wise no one in the hst verse has ever moved anywhere near light speed so you can throw that argument out the window.

We can go over and over with this, my whole point explains that Edward reacted to a character the moves faster then Madara (whatever speed you think Kizaru moves at). Meaning there is nothing that Madara can use that Edward wouldn't be able to handle.

Akainu without his logia body durability is shit compared to perfect susanoo dont try to say it isnt because he has been a logia for a long time he doesnt practice with his normal body durability. Madara's Perfect susanoo was pounded by Shinsuusenjutsu arms along with in the Aoe of 15 exploding tbb witch is far superior to Whitebeard destructive power you keep brining up this reach the cloud bs what does that even mean madara has never aimed is ps sword upwards further more he is able to cut mountain range without touching anything just swing his blade in mid air once again that is one blade perfect susanoo holds 4 he overpowers whitebeard wit his shockwaves. Perfect susanoo is infact island level 15 tailed beast bombs could destroy a island as once is able to vaporize a mountain madara took all of that and his perfect susanoo didnt give way he chakra was why his perfect susanoo was removed not because it was destroyed.

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Your ABC logic is flaw Akainu is made out of molten rocks Akainu's defense is much different then Solid density of chakra. Its already canon that Susanoo cannot block sound and vibrates to begin with, and Kabuto use liquid to counter vibrations.

Even if Madara were to cut upwards the distance will not reach the heavens(another definitions of sky) to depart the clouds as his magnitude only feats mountain ranges. 15 TBB (only a charge quality one which will take time) isn't destroying in island and even if it did, Whitebeard can turn an island upside down with one swoop[

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limbo is still unseen its your fanfic that it is stop with your shitty arguments

Except I never said it is.

Madara was surprised he could sense him knowing naruto was a sage mode user he would know about sensing he has fought hashirama who is a sm user and sage mode has shown greater sensory then any haki and what is whitebeard feats with observation haki anyways?

First and fore most, Whitebeard who has Kings Haki already suggest his skill in all around Haki. And I already post a scan facing Kizaru.

Yes it was already shitted on but its okay if you deny facts

Sure

Exactly is your opinion on what happend it was iron that tanked his quake i can be embedded with haki their is no evidence that it was those quakes just arnt as powerful as op fans try to make them out to be

Except it is as he was able to destroy the whole ground in half spiting the Location in 2, having all 3 admirals block his Vibration so the Marine Ford doesnt go down, and easily shatter Kurzan's ice (which can match steel, if you read the manga or read current chapters like Chijao's flashback).

Whitebeard shockwaves reaching the clouds still not getting how this is relevant when he rarely destroyed anything Madara perfect susanoo wraped over SS triumps over anything white has to show 2000 perfect susanoo blades whitebeard cannot compete plus limbo still 1 shots.

Re read the manga as what I explained above+ my statement is relevant as it shows the magnitude to his DC and how far it can reach.

So no unless you can prove SS and PS counter vibrations.

No it just shows how hyped your trying to make his quakes akainu body durability cannot compare to perfect susanoo his vibrations are outmatched by madara's shockwaves as i already explained

Explained above

naruto still has shown greater sense is the top 5 best sensors in the HST current plus with the sage power he was only able to sense limbo if it could increase naruto speed to where he blitz juubi jinz has island size tbbs his sensing went out the roof you cant compare it to a featless whitebeard still.

Yes I can as I post a scan of someone who moves faster then Madara, and Whitebeard reacting to it. Second I already post a scan that explains Color Of Observation CAN sees more then the physically world.

 

[Unorthodox]

We can go over and over with this, my whole point explains that Edward reacted to a character the moves faster then Madara (whatever speed you think Kizaru moves at). Meaning there is nothing that Madara can use that Edward wouldn't be able to handle.





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Your ABC logic is flaw Akainu is made out of molten rocks Akainu's defense is much different then Solid density of chakra. Its already canon that Susanoo cannot block sound and vibrates to begin with, and Kabuto use liquid to counter vibrations.

Even if Madara were to cut upwards the distance will not reach the heavens(another definitions of sky) to depart the clouds as his magnitude only feats mountain ranges. 15 TBB (only a charge quality one which will take time) isn't destroying in island and even if it did, Whitebeard can turn an island upside down with one swoop[

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Except I never said it is.





First and fore most, Whitebeard who has Kings Haki already suggest his skill in all around Haki. And I already post a scan facing Kizaru.






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Except it is as he was able to destroy the whole ground in half spiting the Location in 2, having all 3 admirals block his Vibration so the Marine Ford doesnt go down, and easily shatter Kurzan's ice (which can match steel, if you read the manga or read current chapters like Chijao's flashback).




Re read the manga as what I explained above+ my statement is relevant as it shows the magnitude to his DC and how far it can reach.

So no unless you can prove SS and PS counter vibrations.





Explained above





Yes I can as I post a scan of someone who moves faster then Madara, and Whitebeard reacting to it. Second I already post a scan that explains Color Of Observation CAN sees more then the physically world.

tired of this debate agree to disagree

 

[Aikor]

SCIENTIFICALLY SAYING it is not POSSIBLE to reach the speed of light for any objects because when u reach the speed of light ur mass reaches infinite meanin not even the strongest objects can reach speed of light.its a FACT.( i study physics)

 

[Easyton]

Madara wins, Whitebeard can't even swim.