Madara surpassed Kaguya

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Kaguya might have a lack of style, however is probably the single-most powerful character, before ninshu and afterwards.While fighting 2 Sages: Naruto and Sasuke,kAGUYA handled it. I´m a Madara fan but he got one-shot by an underling -the all sensitive Uchiha lord-, Kaguya had been sealed, momified paralyzed, reborn and saiyan.

Limbo clones, chakra as it is or ninjutsu are tools Kaguya can effectively defend herself from. Take it to a physical fight, regardless Madara would be stepping on /or not on either of K´s dimensions, he could very get a chance in such conditions.

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Do people seriously need to make things up to infer that Madara would beat kaguya in a fight? The only way kaguya could ever win is using the cheap tactic known as "put him in another dimension and leave him there for all eternity". Other than that, Kaguya's only ability is raw power, which is no match for a good deal more experience fighting and defeating opponents of greater power.

But he has rinnesharing so he would eventually learn how to teleport
 

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Hell no.

Madara isn't even at JJ Hagoromo's level much less, Kaguya who's superior to him.
 

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With Limbo he makes 4 clones of himself with equal power. Too much for anyone to handle.

Madara can surpassed Kaguya only he have Byakugan in both his normal eye. I'm observing why Madara weaker than Kaguya and shocking to know while he literally have all Kaguya power, but he missed out Byakugan the key to be an Otsutsuki/the eye of Kaguya. Literally he did not have both Hamura and hagoromo power to compete her.
 

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Madara can surpassed Kaguya only he have Byakugan in both his normal eye. I'm observing why Madara weaker than Kaguya and shocking to know while he literally have all Kaguya power, but he missed out Byakugan the key to be an Otsutsuki/the eye of Kaguya. Literally he did not have both Hamura and hagoromo power to compete her.

His Rinnegan/Sharingan is better than the Byakugan.
 

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His Rinnegan/Sharingan is better than the Byakugan.

But still to defeat Kaguya or in par with her required all her power that include Byakugan which literally her main eye. Madara did not receive any power from Hamura he only have Hagoromo (He missing info about Hamura literally) thus he still far to achieve Kaguya.
 

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I really don't know how they'd kill each other since they're both completely immortal. Neither have a sealing jutsu as powerful as the six paths seals as well. Kaguya would beat madara more times than not tho.
 

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But still to defeat Kaguya or in par with her required all her power that include Byakugan which literally her main eye. Madara did not receive any power from Hamura he only have Hagoromo (He missing info about Hamura literally) thus he still far to achieve Kaguya.

You don't need her eyes to be on her level or higher. If you made of copy of Kaguya but instead gave it Rinnegan it would be stronger than the original. Madara's only lacking point against Kaguya is chakra. Hamura's power is irrelevant when Madara has the original power which Hamura's came from, the Holy Tree.
 

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You don't need her eyes to be on her level or higher. If you made of copy of Kaguya but instead gave it Rinnegan it would be stronger than the original. Madara's only lacking point against Kaguya is chakra. Hamura's power is irrelevant when Madara has the original power which Hamura's came from, the Holy Tree.

I think you get my point, the only thing he miss make his weak is Byakugan and Hamura chakura since he have the entire tree and juubi absorbed.
 
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I think you get my point, the only thing he miss make his weak is Byakugan and Hamura chakura since he have the entire tree and juubi absorbed.

I get your point but the Holy Tree is comprised of everyone's chakra combined. Hamura's chakra is weaker than it and wouldn't provide any benefits.
 

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I get your point but the Holy Tree is comprised of everyone's chakra combined. Hamura's chakra is weaker than it and wouldn't provide any benefits.

Madara did not know about Hamura and his contribution to seal Kaguya. He even didnt know Kaguya at first place. Madara is unprepared for Zetsu and Kaguya. But still according to story line, both brother power is use to against Kaguya this makes Hamura power is also compulsory to ''match'' Kaguya which include kaguya own doujutsu the Byakugan.
 

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Madara did not know about Hamura and his contribution to seal Kaguya. He even didnt know Kaguya at first place. Madara is unprepared for Zetsu and Kaguya. But still according to story line, both brother power is use to against Kaguya this makes Hamura power is also compulsory to ''match'' Kaguya which include kaguya own doujutsu the Byakugan.

Hagoromo and Hamura fought the ten-tails, which is vastly inferior to Kaguya herself. Hagoromo said Madara would eventually get to her level of power or stronger and this would have been without the Byakugan because he has the Sharingan and Rinnegan which are both better than the previous. Do you really think getting the Byakugan, which Kaguya only used once (?), would make Madara instantly so much stronger?
 

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Hagoromo and Hamura fought the ten-tails, which is vastly inferior to Kaguya herself. Hagoromo said Madara would eventually get to her level of power or stronger and this would have been without the Byakugan because he has the Sharingan and Rinnegan which are both better than the previous. Do you really think getting the Byakugan, which Kaguya only used once (?), would make Madara instantly so much stronger?

Precisely why Hagoromo mention that he is ''closer'' to Kaguya but still he is ''not achieve'' even seam all criteria is fulfilled. This obviously because the non-existence of Madara section on Hamura power and the Byakugan kaguya own. Hagoromo know all Madara use only his power = Senju+Uchiha+Juubi.
 

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Precisely why Hagoromo mention that he is ''closer'' to Kaguya but still he is ''not achieve'' even seam all criteria is fulfilled. This obviously because the non-existence of Madara section on Hamura power and the Byakugan kaguya own. Hagoromo know all Madara use only his part of his power = Senju+Uchiha+Juubi.

He said close because Madara did not have his second eye nor the RinneSharingan, which is Kaguya's power. A Byakugan isn't going to give him anything that would drastically improve his powers. What do you think about Kaguya missing the Uchiha's power, the Mangekyou Sharingan?
 

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He said close because Madara did not have his second eye nor the RinneSharingan, which is Kaguya's power. A Byakugan isn't going to give him anything that would drastically improve his powers. What do you think about Kaguya missing the Uchiha's power, the Mangekyou Sharingan?

Kaguya did not miss MS because the power is in the third eye Rinne Sharingan. What Madara is missing is the power of her first and the second eye Byakugan which Otsutsuki/Hyuga part of Kaguya own linage, i hope you get me.
 
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