[Discussion] Madara Summons

[TheSageOfNinetails]

Hey guys, I'm kinda curious about this.

When Madara was first revived with Edo Tensei, he tried to use his summoning jutsu on the Kyuubi, and he couldn't because he's sealed inside Naruto, but how come he was able to summon the Mazou even though it was still sealed in Obito?

 

[The Necromancer]

I asked that in the discussion and again last night and nobody could answer.

 

[brownbear]

you just broke my brain dude.....................

ot: i have no idea,probably another kishi hole.

 

[Kαmi]

Kishi doesn't really care for logic anymore these days.

 

[omarsen]

Becuase obito is as good as fuking dead, the ONLY REASON he is alive because of BLACK ZETSU.

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[TheSageOfNinetails]

He's been contradicting the plot so much lately.

 

[TheSageOfNinetails]

Becuase obito is as good as fuking dead, the ONLY REASON he is alive because of BLACK ZETSU.

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doesn't change the fact that it was still sealed in Obito.

 

[ShishaMastah420]

One could say Obito lacked the will power to resist or the fact that all rennigan users are able to weild the Mazou, also comparing Kurama and Mazou I don't think that is a good comparison.

Not to mention we never saw Obito seal the Mazou within, he SOMEHOW fused with it...so one could say the Mazou was never sealed, simply absorbed.

 

[Snape Uchiha]

Kurama was sealed inside of Naruto with a tetragram seal.
As far as we can tell, Obito didn't use any significant seal to become the Juubi's jinchuriki. We saw it go inside him, and there was presumably a seal, but Bee said that the tetragram seal is an extremely powerful seal.

 

[Retsu]

Because he more than likely developed the sealing jutsu which bound the gedo into Obito.

Different seals require different methods to release them.

 

[Nafee]

I think I know. You need rinnegan to control the gedo. But obito was able to do it with the hashi cells as madara stated when he first told obito about it (look up the page yourself). Since hashi cells in obito is zetsu so black zetsu could prolly relinquish gedo mazou and madara summoned it with the rinnegan.

 

[AzR]

hmm.. might be

1)lack of will power.. he's in near death situation because the bijuu's being extracted from him..

2)our lack of knowledge what kind of seal obito used to seal juubi.. but i dont think its a 'seal' but i believe its 'absorb' kind-of thing..

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

Here is the answer. Madara couldn't summon Kurama because Kurama was sealed by Minato inside Naruto. However, Madara is synced with Gedo mazo. And there was no seal blocking Madara from summoning it out of Obito. Not to mention Obito is basically a zombie and is pretty much dead.

 

[Prime Rib]

anyone can summon the gedo statue as long as they got the rinnegan.

its the empty shell of the 10 tails and the beast got out thus obito is not the only one who can summon/controll.

 

[aMgDrew]

When Edo Madara tried to summon Kyuubi, he wasn't using his blood.

In this last chapter Madara used his blood to summon Gedo Mazou.

Even Kurama felt Madara's blood presense.



But I also agree that sealing techs play a major part in the summoning too.



But overall I think that Madara will become even more OP. He will become so OP that it will be impossible to imagine what he's actually capable of. The reason for that is, there is no point in having that final villain OP as **** and seem impossible to beat, before the good guys make an ass-pull and defeat him. We all know how it works. Good guys will always win and we won't be surprised with whatever Madara becomes, we will know, that, sadly, he will be defeated.

 

[Nittskay]

Kurama was behind the gate of Naruto's seal when Madara tried to summon.

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Look at Obito and the Juubi; later on, he could summon it from his body -- there is no gate for the seal. Obito bound the Mazou to his body, but didn't seal it behind a gate and separate it's will from himself -- therefore Madara had no trouble yanking it out of Obito.

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Not complicated.

 

[rakitha]

Kurama was behind the gate of Naruto's seal when Madara tried to summon.

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Look at Obito and the Juubi; later on, he could summon it from his body -- there is no gate for the seal. Obito bound the Mazou to his body, but didn't seal it behind a gate and separate it's will from himself -- therefore Madara had no trouble yanking it out of Obito.

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Not complicated.

i think you hit the nail dude

 

[Bansho Tenin]

naruto has the uzumaki seals for kurama

obito just sealed it in himself with his own will


theres your answer.

 

[yuredonitemare]

Pause, to begin with Obito is beyond weak at this point and is barely holding on to life.. Therefore if he is using a special seal, It's weakened.. Like in Kushinas case, her seal weakened during birth. (2nd) Gedo Mazo is a summoning that comes with the Rinnegan, Madara is the only person other then the SO6P who awakened the Rinnegan and I'm sure he knows how to seal/un-seal the jubbi.. I mean he taught Obito everything..