Madara should of been FV Madara created shippuden

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I mean think about it , without madara Theres no obito Tobi akastuti pain kaguya . Madara is the true mastermind of the series .
 

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It was actually entirely BZ's plan, and Madara failed miserably.
 

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Nah Kaguya is, she predicted everything including Indra's jealousy and through BZ shaped the ninja world.

Madara was nothing but her puppet
 

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It's been close to a year since the manga ended and you're still confused.
 
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When will people stop giving a ****? BZ was the mastermind of the masterminds. Deal with it.
 

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Without Kaguya, Madara wouldn't become the villain he is right now.
 

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Madara was hyped up, Kaguya was random BS
 

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BZ was the mastermind but I agree that Madara would have been a nice FV.
 

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BZ created every villian. BZ should have been the final villian. Not Sasuke!
 

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agreed. black zetsu was the ultimate manipulator, hiding in the shadows of the series, hidden so well we didnt get to like him before he turned out to be FV. Madara (at least the name madara) was out in the open, secretly controling the akatsuki.

theres a level of manipulation that just gets stupid after a while. Kaguya was controlling BZ, who manipultated Madara into convincing Obito to make Nagato start the Akatsuki.
 

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Madara is the true and final villain of the series. He wanted to attain control over Kaguya and he did U_U
 

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Lord teuchi created kaguya after banging her mom at a one night stand and then left to for fill his passion of ramen making
 

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It was actually entirely BZ's plan, and Madara failed miserably.

he got pawned around by guy but he survived and is still the winner, and in the fight with sasuke and naruto he wasnt at full strength like now, the two became equal while fighting combined against him while he "only" had one rinnegan and TT, his power would get a superboost after getting the other rinnegan and the rinne-sharingan, imagine a kaguya who can use her powers without letting them backfire at herself :I some crafty use of the bone-attacks plus teleportation and naruto/sasuke would be gone... he can also use PS without EMS that means that touching him is nearly impossible, and many many oher ways to use his incredible amount of abilitys
 

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agreed. black zetsu was the ultimate manipulator, hiding in the shadows of the series, hidden so well we didnt get to like him before he turned out to be FV. Madara (at least the name madara) was out in the open, secretly controling the akatsuki.

theres a level of manipulation that just gets stupid after a while. Kaguya was controlling BZ, who manipultated Madara into convincing Obito to make Nagato start the Akatsuki.
technically he win against bz.. he see its error at the end... not even bz OR KAGUYA OWN HIM ITS JUST he died when biju was extracted... no plot saves him unlike nardo , obito, bz..so6p, and kushina.. only madara is restricted.

he got pawned around by guy but he survived and is still the winner, and in the fight with sasuke and naruto he wasnt at full strength like now, the two became equal while fighting combined against him while he "only" had one rinnegan and TT, his power would get a superboost after getting the other rinnegan and the rinne-sharingan, imagine a kaguya who can use her powers without letting them backfire at herself :I some crafty use of the bone-attacks plus teleportation and naruto/sasuke would be gone... he can also use PS without EMS that means that touching him is nearly impossible, and many many oher ways to use his incredible amount of abilitys
 

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BZ created this whole manga. Pay your dues to him, Madara was a puppet.

technically he win against bz.. he see its error at the end... not even bz OR KAGUYA OWN HIM ITS JUST he died when biju was extracted... no plot saves him unlike nardo , obito, bz..so6p, and kushina.. only madara is restricted.
 
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