[Discussion] Madara reunites w/ his left eye = manga going FULL-R*TARD / Alternative power-ups

[Espadara Uchiha]

I'm gonna be really pissed if Madara gets his other eye back, because as already stated by OP the main characters know how important the eye is to Madara. The only reasonable way I could see Madara getting his eye back is if BZ just randomly takes over Obito and Kamuis back to Madara, and hands him the eye. And knowing Kishi...

 

[assface3]

The manga went full retard a good 6 months ago.

 

[Wesker]

The manga went full retard a good 6 months ago.

Lol, I just looked that up

 

[davidou]

Obito can't stay in Kamui dimension a long time.
The origami girl , Yahiko's love , said it was less than 5 minutes.


I agree with you for the fact that destroying Obito's rinnengan would kill Madara's plan , announcing his easy defeat.
He needs a power-up to be able to fight Naruto.


Bzetsu may be protecting this eye at no cost.

 

[Wesker]

Obito can't stay in Kamui dimension a long time.
The origami girl , Yahiko's love , said it was less than 5 minutes.


I agree with you for the fact that destroying Obito's rinnengan would kill Madara's plan , announcing his easy defeat.
He needs a power-up to be able to fight Naruto.


Bzetsu may be protecting this eye at no cost.

It is not definite. It was said that he can not remain intangible. His intangibility comes from being in 2 places at once, since he teleports parts of his body to the Box Land, for a temporary period of time, that were supposed to be physically affected in the real world.

When Obito finalizes his complete transition to Kamui, he is no longer in their universe. He is not intangible, he is not even there.

 

[Heruvim]

You mad
Lord Madara soloed your favorites, plot bring them back.

 

[B00m]

I agree, but it's not the first time it has happen. You could say foresight is 20/20, or even Kishi could just claim Obito used the last of his chakra to transport them back. I personally thought he was going to get the fruit before his other eye, the fight ever since he became a Jin has not left the Tree, which I believe is still devouring chakra with it's roots.

But yeah, Obito could just stay in Kamui dimension with his Rinnegan while Naruto (and Sasuke) stomp and already bruised Madara.

 

[Wesker]

You mad
Lord Madara soloed your favorites, plot bring them back.

......

Gtfo

 

[KCMNaruto]

BZ can just force Obito to warp back. Obito was barely even alive, it was the 9-tails feeding him chakra. He's said his goodbyes, it's time for Obito to die.

^^ This, here is your answer OP.

Now let mi list my own reasons why this thread is stupid and your rant doesn't make sense

1) Obito had only restored his control over his body WHEN BLACK ZETSU STOLE YIN KURAMA
2) YIN KURAMA FOOLED BZ and decided to help and restore Obito and help me restore control over his body(most likely he also contact him)
3) YIN KURAMA also most likely revealed to Obito which tailed beasts Obito need to stole and transfer to Naruto
4) Obito took piece of Shukaku and Gyuuki and trasfered them along with Yin Kurama to Naruto
5) In The lastest chapter Naruto appeared to save Gai which means Obito and Sakura are also out of Kamui's dimenssion(They have no reason to do that).
6) Main characterss and good characters are not idiot and wether Madara get his Rinnean back or no does not affect it, why ? since Obito took control BZ was incative as Obito didn't see any danger comming to real world as Naruto/Sasuke save him from Madara or he always can use Kamui to be itangible.

What will most likely happen: BZ has gathered all physical and mental strentgh to put into one attempt to deattach from Obito's body, when Obito had Kurama or tailed beasts chakra it could be problem but no it shouldn't be, especially if obito feel safe and he lower his guard down.

BZ will deattach from him taking Rinnegan with itself using oppening/discraction caused by arrival other good characters on good side-> BZ will travel underground to safely get into Madara's hands and merge with him. If Madara help him by enclosing himself into black sphere while launching TBB, it will give more then enough time for BZ to took action and merge with Madara.

Stop being butthurt OP, because I soloed your childlish arguments.

Conclusion: Kishi didn't kill BZ yet, because he has still reason to live. Besides did you forget how BZ trolled Minato with transfer of Kurama ?

 

[Wesker]

^^ This, here is your answer OP.

Now let mi list my own reasons why this thread is stupid and your rant doesn't make sense

1) Obito had only restored his control over his body WHEN BLACK ZETSU STOLE YIN KURAMA
2) YIN KURAMA FOOLED BZ and decided to help and restore Obito and help me restore control over his body(most likely he also contact him)
3) YIN KURAMA also most likely revealed to Obito which tailed beasts Obito need to stole and transfer to Naruto
4) Obito took piece of Shukaku and Gyuuki and trasfered them along with Yin Kurama to Naruto
5) In The lastest chapter Naruto appeared to save Gai which means Obito and Sakura are also out of Kamui's dimenssion(They have no reason to do that).
6) Main characterss and good characters are not idiot and wether Madara get his Rinnean back or no does not affect it, why ? since Obito took control BZ was incative as Obito didn't see any danger comming to real world as Naruto/Sasuke save him from Madara or he always can use Kamui to be itangible.

What will most likely happen: BZ has gathered all physical and mental strentgh to put into one attempt to deattach from Obito's body, when Obito had Kurama or tailed beasts chakra it could be problem but no it shouldn't be, especially if obito feel safe and he lower his guard down.

BZ will deattach from him taking Rinnegan with itself using oppening/discraction caused by arrival other good characters on good side-> BZ will travel underground to safely get into Madara's hands and merge with him. If Madara help him by enclosing himself into black sphere while launching TBB, it will give more then enough time for BZ to took action and merge with Madara.

Stop being butthurt OP, because I soloed your childlish arguments.

Conclusion: Kishi didn't kill BZ yet, because he has still reason to live. Besides did you forget how BZ trolled Minato with transfer of Kurama ?

it still does not address the mere idea of eye not getting destroyed. So what? Obito transfers the bijuu, dies, and then BZ just rips the eye out and leaves? Obito had plenty of opportunity to instruct someone to take care of that business. To Sakura, or possibly revived Naruto if Obito is still alive or near-death.

It is ironic you call my arguments childish, when your ending sentence is something like this: "Stop being butthurt OP, because I soloed your childlish arguments."

Unfortunately you didn't solo shit, you engage in discussions you don't like, and you are just plain moron. Though I'll give you a nod for participation and the bump.

 

[NaruSasuRival]

Is English not your first language? Some of your sentences don't make sense.

I answered your question. Well, I sarcastically answered it. I'm assuming your big question was about our opinions, expectations and alternatives for a power up for Madara. Well, my opinion was that it's dumb because he's gonna get the Rinnegan.

Brah, are you unsocial or something? Learn how to converse with another person, instead of being all egotistical and moral about your glorious thread. Just because you made a wall-of-text, doesn't mean it's right.

Don't hate because I don't appreciate.

Naruto is not the first person to touch the ball. See below:

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Tobirama caught the ball with his hand before, but no one actually noticed it. However, Madara kicked Tobirama later. Thus, you cannot go on making conclusion based on a single action. Besides, it appears that the ball can be upgraded, and it is certainly a little piece of Madara's power.

 

[KCMNaruto]

it still does not address the mere idea of eye not getting destroyed. So what? Obito transfers the bijuu, dies, and then BZ just rips the eye out and leaves? Obito had plenty of opportunity to instruct someone to take care of that business. To Sakura, or possibly revived Naruto if Obito is still alive or near-death.

It is ironic you call my arguments childish, when your ending sentence is something like this: "Stop being butthurt OP, because I soloed your childlish arguments."

Unfortunately you didn't solo shit, you engage in discussions you don't like, and you are just plain moron. Though I'll give you a nod for participation and the bump.

Well, You are stubborn one I can give you that.

Let's take for example of you. As the human we have two sides: conscionous and side based on subconsciousness.

Of course usually you are conscious side, so you control your action but once you are drunk too much or someone make you very angry then you loose control for brief moment as the anger blows on someone. Even although you are aware that you have it, you still can not do anything to stop because THERE WERE NO SIGNS OF IT COMMING.

Same with Obito, He is now relaxed and can lower his guard down due to emotions, joyness from saving Naruto, from having friends again. Black Zetsu didn't try to take over so Obito didn't expect it but if Black Zetsu has gathered all the strength to attack Obito when he see oppening then Obito will not be able to do anything in such short time. IT WILL BE SHOCK FOR HIM.

Another case, You are in the big crowd of people, everyone is talking and let's say you are all great buddies who haven't seen each other for quite big time. Suddenly someone attack you, again for brief moment you will be unable to counter or defend himself as you lowered your guard down and didn't see it comming.

Same with Obito, if Kabuto, Orochimaru and more characters arrive then this reunion can distract Obito giving BZ enough time to strike and merge with Madara, while everyone would be too schocked to act. (Mot often used plot device by authors).

To counter your last argument. Obito didn't , doesn't and won't most likely destory Rinnegan because He wish to compensate for his sins made against Alliance. He desires to use this power to help beat Madara, and he could be right he is save from Madara due to overhelming number of good people being on good side and of course Naruto and Sasuke who won't allow for it. However noone of them can sense BZ or even if they can they could easily forgot about it as they are humans and while wasting their time checking BZ all the time instead of focusing on the battle with Madara ?

It is clear as day that BZ will fool/troll good guys once again but last time as he reunites with Madara.

Just stop hating looking for reason to complain and rant but instead keep open mind and look for positive side of the plot action took by Author.

I hope this time It will at least make you doubt in your hate towards this idea, or maybe you are too headstrong

@ bold part, I think you shouldn't make such statements such easily. Besides you are hater with thick head.

 

[Heruvim]

You're mad, Lord Madara stated that he didnt wanted to use Rinnegan so he wont destroy obito along with his Rinnegan

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[Wesker]

Well, You are stubborn one I can give you that.

Let's take for example of you. As the human we have two sides: conscionous and side based on subconsciousness.

Of course usually you are conscious side, so you control your action but once you are drunk too much or someone make you very angry then you loose control for brief moment as the anger blows on someone. Even although you are aware that you have it, you still can not do anything to stop because THERE WERE NO SIGNS OF IT COMMING.

Same with Obito, He is now relaxed and can lower his guard down due to emotions, joyness from saving Naruto, from having friends again. Black Zetsu didn't try to take over so Obito didn't expect it but if Black Zetsu has gathered all the strength to attack Obito when he see oppening then Obito will not be able to do anything in such short time. IT WILL BE SHOCK FOR HIM.

Another case, You are in the big crowd of people, everyone is talking and let's say you are all great buddies who haven't seen each other for quite big time. Suddenly someone attack you, again for brief moment you will be unable to counter or defend himself as you lowered your guard down and didn't see it comming.

Same with Obito, if Kabuto, Orochimaru and more characters arrive then this reunion can distract Obito giving BZ enough time to strike and merge with Madara, while everyone would be too schocked to act. (Mot often used plot device by authors).

To counter your last argument. Obito didn't , doesn't and won't most likely destory Rinnegan because He wish to compensate for his sins made against Alliance. He desires to use this power to help beat Madara, and he could be right he is save from Madara due to overhelming number of good people being on good side and of course Naruto and Sasuke who won't allow for it. However noone of them can sense BZ or even if they can they could easily forgot about it as they are humans and while wasting their time checking BZ all the time instead of focusing on the battle with Madara ?

It is clear as day that BZ will fool/troll good guys once again but last time as he reunites with Madara.

Just stop hating looking for reason to complain and rant but instead keep open mind and look for positive side of the plot action took by Author.

I hope this time It will at least make you doubt in your hate towards this idea, or maybe you are too headstrong

@ bold part, I think you shouldn't make such statements such easily. Besides you are hater with thick head.

Most shallow, try-hard post to date... This is a damn Shonen manga. There is no need trying to dissect psychology and try to explain things as a borderline, behavior analysis. It is not of that level of depth.

In addition, we don't know how exactly Obito suppressed BZ. So your "letting guard down", or "feeling joy", being used as a reasons/ excuses for BZ to take over, are of little value. + He has a damn enemy, attached throughout his whole left part of body, that wants to snatch the eye and take it to the villain to end humanity. How in the hell do you lower your guard down, when you are in the middle of a fight, and didn't even accomplish the main objective? Don't even elaborate that nonsense, and don't dip into what was not even explained by Kishimoto yet.

You are just flooding w/ bunch of speculation.

"However noone of them can sense BZ or even if they can they could easily forgot about it as they are humans and while wasting their time checking BZ all the time instead of focusing on the battle with Madara?"

... What?! Is that a question? They forgot because they are >human<? Brilliant!

"Besides you are hater with thick head."

Hater of what? Hater of events that didn't even happen (or yet to happen)? If I am a "thick head", then you don't have a head at all.

 

[minamoto]

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[Champ]

I just wanna see him with both Rinnegan's

 

[davidou]

It is not definite. It was said that he can not remain intangible. His intangibility comes from being in 2 places at once, since he teleports parts of his body to the Box Land, for a temporary period of time, that were supposed to be physically affected in the real world.

When Obito finalizes his complete transition to Kamui, he is no longer in their universe. He is not intangible, he is not even there.

lol , so what?

I tried to help you , you don't want help , good bye.

 

[Wesker]

lol , so what?

I tried to help you , you don't want help , good bye.

good bye, "helper"

 

[Wesker]

I just wanna see him with both Rinnegan's

And I want to see double Sharingan Kakashi. Keyword is "want".

 

[Wesker]

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Kinda wierd, but yeah, pretty confusing in what he meant w/ that "nurturing new eye" comment.

Though I feel almost sure that that is just Yamato inside.