Madara probably improvised being stabbed

[Baka Sennin]

Today we saw Madara being fooled by a mokuton bunshin and subsequently stabbed. However, Madara said that only HIS eyes were capable of distinghuising mokuton bunshin from the original when he used them vs the 5 kage. so something isn't right.

imo there are three possible explanations for this
a. kishi screwed up
b. madara was lying

now to my theory:
c. Madara realised when he lost the kyuubi that he couldnt beat hashirama and instead decided to fake his death and carry on his plan from the shadows. now i'm not too sure how he survived, but i assume that it's down to him taking senju dna. genjutsu would have left him at full health and able to kill hashirama, and izanagi the same even if the ems prevented loss of light. so the logical conclusion is that he DID take the hit and it was a critical one, leading him to have to hide afterwards. so hashirama was fooled while madara barely survived using hashirama's blood, and went into hiding in a crippled state. then much later when hashirama was dead and he awoke the rinnegan he awoke the rinnegan, summoned the mazou, and was able to cling on to life even further.

in conclusion, Tobi was probably on the mark when he told konan what happened during 'his' fight with hashirama. that said, i still do not believe that madara went out to lose, his pride would not allow that and if he could have won he would have. but it was clear that hashirama was a fair bit stronger

edit: to those saying his sharingan wasn't active:

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the second left panel, that's the usual soundeffect of a sharingan de/activating. it's true that we didn't get a clear look at wheather madaara had it on or not, however he had activated the ems a couple pages previously and there was nothing to suggest he had deactivated it. meaning he lost the sharingan AFTER he was stabbed.

 

[Sherlock.]

Madara lied....

 

[CurseSealofEarth]

Same thing I think essentially. He took the hit to grab some quick DNA and then used it to survive.

 

[Lyke]

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[Frankenstein]

I have no idea but Madara's expression is so out of character that it's fishy.

 

[KidGamer65]

What about C.? His Eternal Mangakyo wasn't active due to exhaustion thus he couldn't see through the Moku Bunshin.

 

[spade3dg]

Ok. Go back and read that page. Was his sharingan activated during the final moments? No. It was a clash of wills and weapons.


He said with his eye technique he could tell which was a clone. Sharingan wasn't activated. Madara lost. Deal with it or die.

 

[Sefirosu Masamune]

No. he thought he had won. he didnt plan on being stabbed

 

[ReZ]

Today we saw Madara being fooled by a mokuton bunshin and subsequently stabbed. However, Madara said that only HIS eyes were capable of distinghuising mokuton bunshin from the original when he used them vs the 5 kage. so something isn't right.

imo there are three possible explanations for this
a. kishi screwed up
b. madara was lying

now to my theory:
Madara realised when he lost the kyuubi that he couldnt beat hashirama and instead decided to fake his death and carry on his plan from the shadows. now i'm not too sure how he survived, but i assume that it's down to him taking senju dna. genjutsu would have left him at full health and able to kill hashirama, and izanagi the same even if the ems prevented loss of light. so the logical conclusion is that he DID take the hit and it was a critical one, leading him to have to hide afterwards. so hashirama was fooled while madara barely survived using hashirama's blood, and went into hiding in a crippled state. then much later when hashirama was dead and he awoke the rinnegan he awoke the rinnegan, summoned the mazou, and was able to cling on to life even further.

in conclusion, Tobi was probably on the mark when he told konan what happened during 'his' fight with hashirama. that said, i still do not believe that madara went out to lose, his pride would not allow that and if he could have won he would have. but it was clear that hashirama was a fair bit stronger

If you look closely,he did not have his Sharingan on when they clashed that's why he couldn't see his mokuton bunshin.

 

[Everztar]

perhaps madara was referring to rinnegan? and because he invented Zetsu.. he knows a lot more now than he did during the fight with Hashirama

 

[Baka Sennin]

Ok. Go back and read that page. Was his sharingan activated during the final moments? No. It was a clash of wills and weapons.


He said with his eye technique he could tell which was a clone. Sharingan wasn't activated. Madara lost. Deal with it or die.

edited it a bit to reinforce my point. and my point isnt that madara didn't lose, he did and that's unarguable. hashirama is clearly stronger as well. that doesn't refute the theory that madara might have given up intentionally at the end. he may have seen his death coming and made the best of it so to speak.

 

[lytie]

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Yuss is a very South African thing to say, you say your from Germany?

 

[isaacodo]

Madara lost and he clinged unto the senju DNA to survive remember he said Hashirama could heal himself, I believe he might have licked Hashi blood or something or used his Moktun bunshi remains to make a quick medicine after Hashi left. All the same it is as it is, Madara lost to Hashi and if he had showed any sign of being alive Hashi would have chopped off his head.

 

[isaacodo]

Madara lost and he clinged unto the senju DNA to survive remember he said Hashirama could heal himself, I believe he might have licked Hashi blood or something or used his Moktun bunshi remains to make a quick medicine after Hashi left. All the same it is as it is, Madara lost to Hashi and if he had showed any sign of being alive Hashi would have chopped off his head.