Madara/Obito's Ideals

[jamarcusp17]

I want to know what you guys thought about Madara and Obito's ideology of creating peace. I honestly believe that they were right in saying that Hagoromo's manifested world was a failure. It was his idea to give everyone chakra, who could, in turn, share with other people, completely disregarding the thought that any of those people could use that chakra to do bad things to others. With that, it's hard to say that Hagoromo was a brilliant; rather, it could be said that he was naive in thinking that his ideology would spread love and peace. I won't say that his beliefs created hate and war, but it did give people the ability to create destruction on a more massive level than before.

I do believe that Masashi Kishimoto created a strong, valid reason for Madara and Obito wanting to use Infinite Tsukuyomi on the world. In other words, it wasn't terrible that Madara/Obito wanted to get rid of the useless notion of shinobi and create a world where everyone gets to live their dream. Those things aren't truly bad. But what Masashi did--making Naruto oppose the idea of true peace--wasn't the best route to choose. Naruto and the shinobi gang opposed a world where no one has to die so that they could continue a world where anyone and everyone is subjected to death over even the most insignificant situations. They should have been considered the antagonists of the story.

I want to know what you guys think about Hagoromo's ideals, as well as Madara and Obito's Infinite Tsukuyomi plan.

 

[Belserion]

The Intention was good but The concept was wrong.
Madara and Obito still murdered tons of people to "achieve" their vision of peace.

peace was a silly excuse for them to be on top.

 

[Zawerni]

Infinite Tsukuyomi was flawless. Kishi had to add the "you turn into Zetsu" at the last minute to make IT look like an actual bad thing.

 

[The Messiah]

IT might come come off as morally incorrect but it was the best way to achieve true peace.

 

[123fire]

Whatever Obito does is right

 

[lilix96]

well madara was had the right reasons one of the smartest characters in narutoverse but obito only did it because kakashi killed rin one of the worst reasons ever soo obito ****ed up nagatos and konans Life , he messed up all kind of peoples Life , he killed his own clan just because kakashi killed rin in the end but madaras crime is not unforgivble either even if he had better intetion and reason than obito

 

[jamarcusp17]

well madara was had the right reasons one of the smartest characters in narutoverse but obito only did it because kakashi killed rin one of the worst reasons ever soo obito ****ed up nagatos and konans Life , he messed up all kind of peoples Life , he killed his own clan just because kakashi killed rin in the end but madaras crime is not unforgivble either even if he had better intetion and reason than obito

I didn't really watch all episodes regarding Madara, so tell me his reasons for Madara's actions.

 

[Zawerni]

well madara was had the right reasons one of the smartest characters in narutoverse but obito only did it because kakashi killed rin one of the worst reasons ever soo obito ****ed up nagatos and konans Life , he messed up all kind of peoples Life , he killed his own clan just because kakashi killed rin in the end but madaras crime is not unforgivble either even if he had better intetion and reason than obito

This is actually false. You should go back and re-read the manga a bit.

 

[baul 24]

Naruto is a manga where all bad guys have a valid point and were actually true, want to see what was kawaki's reason for wanting to end the ninja system, better be a valid reason rather than bullshit like some filler guys.