Madara/Obito vs Tobirama/Minato

[Haizaki]

In Order To Getting Close To Him All They Have To Do Is Tossing a Kunai Toward Him...It Doesn't Matter If He Deflects Or Grabs It...One Will Appear On The Kunai As A Distraction While The Other Takes The Opportunity For A Surprise Attack...
I'm Just Saying The Possibilities Though I Agree Madara Solos While Obito Is A Non-Factor...

^^ So if Madara deflects the Kunai with this

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What happens?

No one is surprising Madara when he also has Wood clones and Wood Dragon..Not to mention they stand the Chance of getting caught up in FTW if they attack recklessly.

 

[KidGamer65]

In Order To Getting Close To Him All They Have To Do Is Tossing a Kunai Toward Him...It Doesn't Matter If He Deflects Or Grabs It...One Will Appear On The Kunai As A Distraction While The Other Takes The Opportunity For A Surprise Attack...
I'm Just Saying The Possibilities Though I Agree Madara Solos While Obito Is A Non-Factor...

Throw a Kunai at Madara through a thick forest? Not happening.

 

[ARGUS]

Madara and Tobi win this mid diff at most

 

[Conspirator.]

Madara solos.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Madara solo's.

L0l i see DemonSenju riding everybody nuts l0l. ​

 

[Hokage4]

Tobirama and minato. They are a killer combo

 

[Great Master Minato]

^^ So if Madara deflects the Kunai with this

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What happens?

No one is surprising Madara when he also has Wood clones and Wood Dragon..Not to mention they stand the Chance of getting caught up in FTW if they attack recklessly.

Throw a Kunai at Madara through a thick forest? Not happening.

I Said I Agree That Madara Can Win Against The Duo So There's No Need To Argue With Me Anymore

 

[Pragmatic]

Ms Obito and blind Madara vs. Tobirama full power non Edo tensei and minato non Edo tensei full power.

Each character can do what they say they can and can't do, as long as there is a scan for it.

Minato has frog kumite and sage song, no kcm for obvious reasons.

No kyuubi

Restrictions: Demonic senju and kidgamer.

No warping GG, kamui can only be used for intangibility and or ejecting objects.

Intention: Madara wants to avenge his brother to the next generation and Obito is taking his sexual frustrations on the kages. Kill for the kages too.

Continue to restrict the Uchiha it makes no difference they still take this

 

[VongolaX]

Continue to restrict the Uchiha it makes no difference they still take this

I restricted kamui wank to make it interesting, everything else is fair enough.

Read the conditions...

Everything that the Uchihas claim to do is validated on this thread.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

FTG duo got this. Manga intel means they wont plant FTG on the ground but on top of breaches/forest Madara will make with Jukai and FTW, which will be the new battlefield.

Saying these speedsters can't react to FTW in time is outright wanking Mokuton, when we canonically saw Ay without Raiton speed[

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]. Can jump around them. Not to mention Tobirama canonically was able to reach further heights then FTW[

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] goes, and Minato can replicate it too.

Edit: Maybe the Uchiha's can still win but by no chance is Madara soloing.

 

[Tobiramas]

Distance?

FTG duo take this

If they start close-mid range:

~ MS Obito's kamui is a non-factor infront of Minato's FTG lvl2 combined with his superior speed(with SM he dies worse)
~ Without SM, Tobirama's FTG-giri finishes Madara in close-range due to his superior speed(unless he has Susanoo on)
~ Assuming he has Susanoo on, Tobirama marks the physical entity and finish him with goshun mawashi

If they start long range:

~ Minato surround the battlefield with kunais at similar ranges like he did in wars allowing them to dodge all Mokuton attacks
~ Each could also use one clone and teleport on 4 different sides creating a barrier to block any incoming attacks
~ With the ability to dodge all Mokuton attacks, this fight will be decided in close range where Madara and Obito lose

 

[VongolaX]

Only intangible kamui and ejecting objects can be used if referring to his MS, all other abilities that are claimed are validated.

No kamui warp GG, that's not a killing intent that is just capturing.

 

[KidGamer65]

FTG duo got this. Manga intel means they wont plant FTG on the ground but on top of breaches/forest Madara will make with Jukai and FTW, which will be the new battlefield.

Saying these speedsters can't react to FTW in time is outright wanking Mokuton, when we canonically saw Ay without Raiton speed[

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]. Can jump around them. Not to mention Tobirama canonically was able to reach further heights then FTW[

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>

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] goes, and Minato can replicate it too.

Edit: Maybe the Uchiha's can still win but by no chance is Madara soloing.

1. Reacting to it and evading it are obviously not the same things. So that's one point that outright doesn't matter here, thus invalid.

2. Jump around them? Based on what? Ay trying and failing to do so? He needed someone to raise him above the forest in order to evade it. No reason to believe Minato or Tobirama can evade on foot.

3. Tobirama being able to jump higher than the forest=/=Tobirama being able to evade the forest. Unless he can jump out of the forest (which he can't do) or stay elevated above it (which he can't do) being able to jump higher than it isn't going to help him. Hell, ANY of the Gokage except maybe Gaara can jump higher than the height of the forest, yet they needed someone to keep them elevated above said forest.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

1. Reacting to it and evading it are obviously not the same things. So that's one point that outright doesn't matter here, thus invalid.

2. Jump around them? Based on what? Ay trying and failing to do so? He needed someone to raise him above the forest in order to evade it. No reason to believe Minato or Tobirama can evade on foot.

3. Tobirama being able to jump higher than the forest=/=Tobirama being able to evade the forest. Unless he can jump out of the forest (which he can't do) or stay elevated above it (which he can't do) being able to jump higher than it isn't going to help him. Hell, ANY of the Gokage except maybe Gaara can jump higher than the height of the forest, yet they needed someone to keep them elevated above said forest.

1. Good thing they are evading it as someone with lesser speed or = mobility, Madara and Hashirama, are able to escape the pollens themselves (since DB stated they can fall for their own jutsu).

2. Good thing Minato and Tobirama dont reply on Raiton to move fast or use of body flicker. And what I stated above.

3.Good thing my premise never stated of evade the area but use it as a new platform to fight. Which I would have further elaborate destroying the flowers making this jutsu only use of becoming a new battle field.

 

[Indestructible]

1. Good thing they are evading it as someone with lesser speed or = mobility, Madara and Hashirama, are able to escape the pollens themselves (since DB stated they can fall for their own jutsu).

DB also stated the user can control where the pollen goes.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

DB also stated the user can control where the pollen goes.

Interesting fact. Doesn't debunk my point tho.

 

[KidGamer65]

1. Good thing they are evading it as someone with lesser speed or = mobility, Madara and Hashirama, are able to escape the pollens themselves (since DB stated they can fall for their own jutsu).

You are going to need to give me scans that prove the following.

-Tobirama or Minato's Shunshin surpassing Madara or Hashirama's. Madara has better Shunshin feats than both of them, and their hype is for Hiraishin not just for Shunshin.

-Them being able to escape it=/=Them being able to escape by foot. Madara needed Susanoo to escape the forest, and he needed elevation above the rocks. Not to mention where is the DB entry? I'm curious about some things.

Also, what Indestructible brought up obliterates your point. If the user can control the pollen, then he can be in the forest at the same time as his enemy.

2. Good thing Minato and Tobirama dont reply on Raiton to move fast or use of body flicker. And what I stated above.

Too bad Ay failing without his Raiton Cloak=/=Tobirama and Minato succeeding. What you stated above is invalid.

3.Good thing my premise never stated of evade the area but use it as a new platform to fight. Which I would have further elaborate destroying the flowers making this jutsu only use of becoming a new battle field.

Too bad no location was provided, so you have no reason to mention any kind of platform that'd be around for them to get onto.

Except they can't destroy the flowers. Rasengan is too weak, and he'll fall asleep before he gets close enough. Suidanha is too weak, and he'll fall asleep before he can get close enough, and Gojo is a suicide move. Not to mention they'll fall asleep after about only 3 seconds of being in the forest, as that is exactly what happened to the Gokage.

 

[Taco King]

You are going to need to give me scans that prove the following.

-Tobirama or Minato's Shunshin surpassing Madara or Hashirama's. Madara has better Shunshin feats than both of them, and their hype is for Hiraishin not just for Shunshin.

-Them being able to escape it=/=Them being able to escape by foot. Madara needed Susanoo to escape the forest, and he needed elevation above the rocks. Not to mention where is the DB entry? I'm curious about some things.

Also, what Indestructible brought up obliterates your point. If the user can control the pollen, then he can be in the forest at the same time as his enemy.


Too bad Ay failing without his Raiton Cloak=/=Tobirama and Minato succeeding. What you stated above is invalid.




Too bad no location was provided, so you have no reason to mention any kind of platform that'd be around for them to get onto.

Except they can't destroy the flowers. Rasengan is too weak, and he'll fall asleep before he gets close enough. Suidanha is too weak, and he'll fall asleep before he can get close enough, and Gojo is a suicide move. Not to mention they'll fall asleep after about only 3 seconds of being in the forest, as that is exactly what happened to the Gokage.

Hahahahah #rekt.

EjBlack always gets destroyed, wonder why mmmh.