Madara never wanted Hashirama DNA

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to achieve Rinnegan? - Stay with me guys, this is a theory i came up with! I seen a lot of you guys talking about the arinnegan today... and i'd likebto let you know what i think.

why didn't something happen at the beginning when Madara applied Hashirama DNA into his body?
is Senju DNA really the solution?...

i believe that Senju DNA could be one of the head ingredients, but i kind of think that there is something else that must be added to the mix...

Sharingan...
Mangekyo Sharingan...
Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan...

all these 3 evolve after certain feelings... hatred... loss... sadness... you know this already right?

Madara didn't get Rinnegan as soon as he applied the Senju DNA, he didn't achieve it until near death...

perhaps this is the reason for unlocking the Rinnegan...

To finally forgive yourself, to accept yourself for who you are and get rid of all that hatred towards other people... to accept what has happened and that your brothers will never come back... to finally get that feeling that no matter what you do now, there's nothing else that can be done, you're finished... finally... you've done all you can and it's finally time to say goodbye?

you see, Madara had already got Rinnegan before he met Obito for the first time... so i think that Madara had already realised that he was going to fail with his plan... his plan to not become the Hokage of The Hidden Leaf... but to become the leader of the whole world instead... it was all a fail and Madara had finally accepted that. therefore unlocking the rinnegan... when Madara unlocked the rinnegan he gained a tiny bit of new hope, implanting the rinnegan in someone elses body... (and let Zetzu make Obitos work... and let's face it.. that wouldnt've been possible because i don't think that Nagato would've Negotiate without a fight)

not until finding Obito did Madara regain the true hope for his dreams to come true, because finally did he find someone trustworthy and someone that could actually help him with his plans... of course did Madara already have a tiny tiny bit of plans but Obito was the key to everything...

this was my theory all the time... but now i've been thinking... and i believe that you do not not need Hashirama DNA to develop the rinnegan... the mix between Senju and Uchiha might not be the solution for unlocking the Rinnegan at all!

recently i started to believe that Madara didn't want Hashirama cells to unlock the Rinnegan...
the main focus was to get a hold of Hashirama dna, but for what purpose?
the purpose could be; Madara always wanted a stronger body... because Madara had a weakness... Sage Mode.

Madara wanted to obtain Hashirama DNA only to get Sage Mode... but just by obtaining the DNA would not give him the power of Sage Mode... he recieved a stronger body and he recieved Mokuton. but sadly Madara did not get the Sage Mode he had hoped...

why would Madara want Sage Mode? well simply because Mokuton & Sage Mode combined would be the only way for madara to become the strongest Ninja alive, AND Madara would be able to capture all 9 bijuus by himself.
Sure, Madara could control Kyuubi... but there was one problem... Madara couldn't control 9 bijuus combined with his EMS? he even said so himself when they summoned the juubi... "we've got to hurry up before we lose control over the Juubi"

so for now, i believe that

1. Madara wanted to steal DNA from Hashirama in order to obtain Sage Mode
2. Madara wanted to use Sage Mode & Mokuton to capture 9 bijuus
3. Madara wanted to summon Juubi and later again use his Sage Mode & Mokuton in order to beat it, capture it, seal it inside himself and perform Tsuki No Me

i believe it was all about the Sage Mode. and i still believe Rinnegan is not developed from combining the DNA.
i believe that accepting yourself for who you are, the salvation of all the hatred... letting go of all the hatred would give you the power of Rinnegan.

anyways, i'm off for a bit! take care guys
 

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Yeah he wanted Hashi for himself U_U

OT : Madara acted on his sense of justice which was written on the Uchiha tablet
 
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these are great ideas and theories or thoughts , but I think he would still need senju dna , and maybe a senju's dna after that senju has obtained sage mode to be able to combine it with an uchiha's ems to get to the rinnegan. There probably is more to it most definitely I would think than just combining the dna together like these non thinkers think lol that would make it better if Naruto or Sasuke were to aim at getting the rinnegan potentially , which I think would be a horrible idea.

Considering the rinnegan is involved with sage mode or nature and sage powers I would think that sage mode would be a factor in getting it. After all there are plenty of senju he could've taken who were much weaker than Hashirama .
 

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And he brought kyuubi with him......just for DNA you say??????
Hashirama was much stronger than Madara, he wasn't even fighting to kill Madara until the end of the fight. Hashirama also had Bijuus 2-8 which he didn't even need to use. Madara stated you need Senju DNA and Uchiha DNA

to achieve Rinnegan? - Stay with me guys, this is a theory i came up with! I seen a lot of you guys talking about the arinnegan today... and i'd likebto let you know what i think.

why didn't something happen at the beginning when Madara applied Hashirama DNA into his body?
is Senju DNA really the solution?...

i believe that Senju DNA could be one of the head ingredients, but i kind of think that there is something else that must be added to the mix...

Sharingan...
Mangekyo Sharingan...
Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan...

all these 3 evolve after certain feelings... hatred... loss... sadness... you know this already right?

Madara didn't get Rinnegan as soon as he applied the Senju DNA, he didn't achieve it until near death...

perhaps this is the reason for unlocking the Rinnegan...

To finally forgive yourself, to accept yourself for who you are and get rid of all that hatred towards other people... to accept what has happened and that your brothers will never come back... to finally get that feeling that no matter what you do now, there's nothing else that can be done, you're finished... finally... you've done all you can and it's finally time to say goodbye?

you see, Madara had already got Rinnegan before he met Obito for the first time... so i think that Madara had already realised that he was going to fail with his plan... his plan to not become the Hokage of The Hidden Leaf... but to become the leader of the whole world instead... it was all a fail and Madara had finally accepted that. therefore unlocking the rinnegan... when Madara unlocked the rinnegan he gained a tiny bit of new hope, implanting the rinnegan in someone elses body... (and let Zetzu make Obitos work... and let's face it.. that wouldnt've been possible because i don't think that Nagato would've Negotiate without a fight)

not until finding Obito did Madara regain the true hope for his dreams to come true, because finally did he find someone trustworthy and someone that could actually help him with his plans... of course did Madara already have a tiny tiny bit of plans but Obito was the key to everything...

this was my theory all the time... but now i've been thinking... and i believe that you do not not need Hashirama DNA to develop the rinnegan... the mix between Senju and Uchiha might not be the solution for unlocking the Rinnegan at all!

recently i started to believe that Madara didn't want Hashirama cells to unlock the Rinnegan...
the main focus was to get a hold of Hashirama dna, but for what purpose?
the purpose could be; Madara always wanted a stronger body... because Madara had a weakness... Sage Mode.

Madara wanted to obtain Hashirama DNA only to get Sage Mode... but just by obtaining the DNA would not give him the power of Sage Mode... he recieved a stronger body and he recieved Mokuton. but sadly Madara did not get the Sage Mode he had hoped...

why would Madara want Sage Mode? well simply because Mokuton & Sage Mode combined would be the only way for madara to become the strongest Ninja alive, AND Madara would be able to capture all 9 bijuus by himself.
Sure, Madara could control Kyuubi... but there was one problem... Madara couldn't control 9 bijuus combined with his EMS? he even said so himself when they summoned the juubi... "we've got to hurry up before we lose control over the Juubi"

so for now, i believe that

1. Madara wanted to steal DNA from Hashirama in order to obtain Sage Mode
2. Madara wanted to use Sage Mode & Mokuton to capture 9 bijuus
3. Madara wanted to summon Juubi and later again use his Sage Mode & Mokuton in order to beat it, capture it, seal it inside himself and perform Tsuki No Me

i believe it was all about the Sage Mode. and i still believe Rinnegan is not developed from combining the DNA.
i believe that accepting yourself for who you are, the salvation of all the hatred... letting go of all the hatred would give you the power of Rinnegan.

anyways, i'm off for a bit! take care guys
Madara Stated you need Senju and Uchiha DNA for the Rinnegan and he knows the most about it so I have to go with what he said . There can be an emotion need as well but why don't know what kind yet cause it's not like Madara would lose hope when he already gave his eyes to Nagato even before meeting Obito so he still had a plan that he was going to use without Obito.
 

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Few Things:

1) "because Mokuton & Sage Mode combined would be the only way for madara to become the strongest Ninja alive" Who said Madara wants this?

2) "Madara couldn't control 9 bijuus combined with his EMS? he even said so himself when they summoned the juubi" If this is true wouldnt it be easy to provide a scan saying this, instead of having people who already dont believe you having to take your word for it?

3) The Akatsuki were able to capture all 9 Bijuu without the help of Mokuton. Safe to say Madara could do it without Mokuton.

I disagree with this theory, it didnt meet its burden of proof.
 
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