Madara knows/knew space-time ninjutsu

[Hawker]

Yes, on top of everything else, I think he was skilled in that too. Some people say nah but here's my "proof" which I base of completely on Minato's evaluation:

Minato who obviously knows the history of Konoha and the abilities of the former kages had thoughts rushed into his head when he met 'the masked Man' (Obito).
When analyzing his abilities, his thoughts went from this (ch.502 page 10):

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to this (page 11):

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so one of the points that lead him to the conclusion that the masked man would be Madara, was that he was capable of using s/t techs. We can't really disregard it.



ps. I'd like to add to this the fact that Tobi was trained by Madara. He learned how to use space time tech from Madara. Even if it was Obito's original ability from his sharingan, Madara was the one that made it possible for him to advance in s/t technique so that he is on the level that makes Minato say this:

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Obito obviously can't get onto a level higher than Tobirama by himself. So he was taught by a teacher stronger than Tobirama: Madara. So there's a strong hint that says that Madara knew s/t.
Remember Naruto wouldn't been able to have learned Rasengan if Jiraya didn't knew it.

Opinions?

 

[EDO TENSEl]

Am I missing something? I thought it was a product of his MS.

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

As long as you know that the man under the mask was obito when he fough minato.

 

[Kirikoe]

this is because he was able to control the nine tails this is why he came to this conclusion but he even said its impossible to be him

 

[Hawker]

Am I missing something? I thought it was a product of his MS.

So he just learned himself to use it and suddenly was better at it than Minato or the Second? lol

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

Also obito was usinh his ms the same way when he awakened it. During that fight with the mist ninja. Slippin thru them etc. Madara only taught him uchiha kinjustu n ridokuu jutsu. Not sure about space time.

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

So he just learned himself to use it and suddenly was better at it than Minato or the Second? lol

The MS is powerful

 

[Hawker]

The MS is powerful

Not that powerful. Otherwise Kakashi would be on a level higher than Minato or the Second, with his kamui techs.

 

[EDO TENSEl]

So he just learned himself to use it and suddenly was better at it than Minato or the Second? lol

um it's the power he awakened with his MS so how would Madara teach him a power that was inherently Obito's to begin with?

 

[pandu]

It was obito's kamui minato was talking about.Not that madara knew s/t ninjutsu.He just helped obito in perfecting his kamui

 

[BazzBee]

He is Obito not Madara !

 

[Ōkami]

That's Obito's space time migration.

 

[foxyladyland]

KAMUI is Obito's technique from his Sharingan eye, only his....
Madara I don't think knows any or he would have used it by now...

 

[Hawker]

um it's the power he awakened with his MS so how would Madara teach him a power that was inherently Obito's to begin with?

look my answer below to pandu.

It was obito's kamui minato was talking about.Not that madara knew s/t ninjutsu.He just helped obito in perfecting his kamui

Yes. Which makes me think Madara knew s/t techs to begin with.

He is Obito not Madara !

Are you f*cking retarded? When did I ever say Madara is the masked man? The point is what makes Minato think he would be Madara! aka if I see a masked man dancing like lady gaga I'll say "hmm are you lady gaga" but then he would take the mask of and it would be a romanian taxi driver, you see where I'm getting at? lol you're dumb

 

[End of Days]

So he just learned himself to use it and suddenly was better at it than Minato or the Second? lol

it came automatic to him without even trying, just look up obito vs mist ninjas

 

[shubzy123]

No, Obito's S/T Technique is an ability of the Mangekyou... Kamui...

 

[shubzy123]

It was PLOT, the guy just awoken it and he killed like 10 Jonin? U Mad

Obito the little shit probably barely became a genin

 

[Frikid]

Madara was never shown to use any S/T techs, If was he knew something like that, minato would surely be aware of that.
Minato thought tobi was madara because only madara was capable of controlling the kyuubi, no other uchiha had ever achieved this feat, so he thought that it could be madara.
I think he just took a wild guess there, and obito could use his S/T before madara taught him anything . he could pass through object even when he went rage mode on hidden mist shinobis

 

[pandu]

All right here's an example.
Yamato never had any wind chakra nature to begin with.Going by your logic yamato should've known rasenshuriken before hand.Otherwise he couldn't have helped naruto to perfect it.Could he??

 

[Hawker]

it came automatic to him without even trying, just look up obito vs mist ninjas

that was no yet above the level of Tobirama..lol

No, Obito's S/T Technique is an ability of the Mangekyou... Kamui...

yes...one can teach space time even just if he knows the basic concept...which I would assume Madara does. Madara doesn't have to know Kamui in order to teach Obito about space time.