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I saw this thread of madara vs kaguya, but seriously.

Kidgamer65 keeps telling that it's stated that shes above madara, but that statement was about the chakra section, so nothing is stated.

Madara has more chakra than naruto and sasuke, and even THEY stand a chance against kaguya, so stating that it's 'confirmed' that she's above madara is bullshit, naruto is the living proof.

Kaguya is dumber than naruto, she's only stronger, but madara is smarter AND stronger than naruto. Than sasuke and naruto combined too.

Kaguya is strong, yes, ofcourse because she has all 3 doujutsus plus kekkei genkai, BUT she CAN'T use ninjutsu (because ninjutsu was created AFTER hagoromo gave ppl chakra, kaguya was already sealed before that happend, if you want proof: kaguya didn't use ninjutsu yet).

Madara's limbo's and stuff slam kaguya, you see that she keeps running away to another dimension when stuff gets serious. So she'd probably hop away when madara made it rain mountains.

Her bone technique won't work i guess because madara regenerates.

She won't bring madara into another dimension, because 1 she can't and 2 she won't, she'll probably try to kill him first, until it's too late.
Why she can't, is: Madara is one of the best sensory types, as we saw he even countered minato and tobirama.

People will come with sasuke, but he probably didn't dodge his katana on purpose, because what's the point of dodging it and giving sasuke the oppertunity to keep attacking and buying time so naruto can reach the place too? Didn't he regenerate? Sasuke fans blindly take every chance to find something that makes sasuke '>' madara.

So my point is that madara counters kaguya's dimension stuff, even naruto did it lol, so it's proven that people (like madara) can dodge it.

If people count kaguya's chakra as a plus, i can take madara's 3 (sha)rinnegan as a plus.

Come at me, but keep it friendly, no fighting please!

Remember, Madders wants peace, so keep it peaceful arguing.
 
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I saw this thread of madara vs kaguya, but seriously.

Kidgamer65 keeps telling that it's stated that shes above madara, but that statement was about the chakra section, so nothing is stated.

Madara has more chakra than naruto and sasuke, and even THEY stand a chance against kaguya, so stating that it's 'confirmed' that she's above madara is bullshit, naruto is the living proof.

Kaguya is dumber than naruto, she's only stronger, but madara is smarter AND stronger than naruto. Than sasuke and naruto combined too.

Kaguya is strong, yes, ofcourse because she has all 3 doujutsus plus kekkei genkai, BUT she CAN'T use ninjutsu (because ninjutsu was created AFTER hagoromo gave ppl chakra, kaguya was already sealed before that happend, if you want proof: kaguya didn't use ninjutsu yet).

Madara's limbo's and stuff slam kaguya, you see that she keeps running away to another dimension when stuff gets serious. So she'd probably hop away when madara made it rain mountains.

Her bone technique won't work i guess because madara regenerates.

She won't bring madara into another dimension, because 1 she can't and 2 she won't, she'll probably try to kill him first, until it's too late.
Why she can't, is: Madara is one of the best sensory types, as we saw he even countered minato and tobirama.

People will come with sasuke, but he probably didn't dodge his katana on purpose, because what's the point of dodging it and giving sasuke the oppertunity to keep attacking and buying time so naruto can reach the place too? Didn't he regenerate? Sasuke fans blindly take every chance to find something that makes sasuke '>' madara.

So my point is that madara counters kaguya's dimension stuff, even naruto did it lol, so it's proven that people (like madara) can dodge it.

If people count kaguya's chakra as a plus, i can take madara's 3 (sha)rinnegan as a plus.

Come at me, but keep it friendly, no fighting please!

Remember, Madders wants peace, so keep it peaceful arguing.
OK I will try my best to contribute to your thread. I'm not side with anyone here but I try be logical because many thing is out of our control even you -Madara returns-.

I bring here the word feat:-

Madara have 10+ chapters after he become Juubi jin to show us reader many abilities and feat.

Example is- Regeneration, Limbo, Gudou Dama abilities although not as well verse as Obito, Senpou Enton Raiha, Shin Jukai Koutan, Large scale CT, plus EMS technique like PS.

But Kaguya just having 5 chapters currently, but compare to Madara, All Kaguya chapters is fill with her showing what abilities she have like, Dimensional shifting, Hair Senbon, Chakra fists, Chakra wave, Teleportation through portal, Ash Bone technique, and Become one with nature.

Yes those feats look pale compare to Madara that look intimidating and that the feats you taking here to determine Madara is stronger than Kaguya. You look for Large DC than HAX abilities. Even if you bought Limbo, you still can't speculate that Kaguya now it or not known about it. It's still blurr. Unless we got shown with the same feats against Kaguya. Only Kishi know the truth here.

And other point that where's I think you can't judge/make a conclusion to fast is because of plot make by Kishi. I know all feats that Madara have drawn by Kishi for us, but I will not see or said the same thing for Kaguya, because Kishi is at the center here.

Many thing we can speculate about him, like he nerfing her so much because to powerful or he want make her character unique or he will not give and draw devastating feats for her because she will easily make Naruto and Sasuke unable to counter her although by theory she are able to perform large/powerful DC technique etc.

But that's all we got from her here in this manga, her feats. But still I won't dare to make this kind of vs/comparison thread. Because we can't get to know the characters abilities accordance to their true power/potential. What we get is nerf type technique or very soft technique that I called here.

Yes your scenario you post is good. You said it will turn like this or like that in your theory. You said she use this, he will use that, and vise versa.

But until Kishi shown us the true potential/power of Kaguya in the manga. We can't said much. Just speculate and hope it is the truth.

Thanks.
 
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She can't kill him. She can only leave him stranded in another dimension. Madara could use the portal but that will never get validation with people on NB.

She isn't above him. She just has that 1 tech that changes the fight.
 

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Lol no.
The manga made very clear who's superior starting with the statement that her chakra is even greater than his.
He was also easily subdued and overwhelmed by her will while N&S resisted and overcame it. That's another one.
 
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