Hey guys.
So, this topic about current madara vs obito as the juubi jinchuriki, has been really discusssed. We all know madara have yet to show feats, however, some try to see the logic in madara's power up
I was in a debate with another member of this website. So, this is the point of the discussion: Does adding more bijuu to the juubi grant the juubi more power?
I believe that yes, it does add power to the juubi, and the other member was saying that no, it doesn't grant more power.
It would be good to see the base's ideas. I'll show here the main arguments used by me and by him, in case you want to read,(if you don't want to, you can read the bold below the arguments) and then, you'll answer that question above and explain why you chose your answer.
Adding bijuu do not result in power arguments
Basically, the point in heere is that the juubi has 100% natural energy, and therefore, it can't get more powerful because natural energy is the most powerful. Adding bijuu just increase stamina
Adding bijuu results in more power
Basically, the point in here is that bijuu have a lot of power, and mixing 8,5 bijuu results in more power than mixing 7. Thefore, madara would have more power at his disposal.
So, what do you think?
So, this topic about current madara vs obito as the juubi jinchuriki, has been really discusssed. We all know madara have yet to show feats, however, some try to see the logic in madara's power up
I was in a debate with another member of this website. So, this is the point of the discussion: Does adding more bijuu to the juubi grant the juubi more power?
I believe that yes, it does add power to the juubi, and the other member was saying that no, it doesn't grant more power.
It would be good to see the base's ideas. I'll show here the main arguments used by me and by him, in case you want to read,(if you don't want to, you can read the bold below the arguments) and then, you'll answer that question above and explain why you chose your answer.
Adding bijuu do not result in power arguments
7 or 9 in term of chakra power doesnt matter. 100% nature energy is the limit.
9 > 7 in term of chakra quantity of course.
Juubi is made of natural energy the one that SM users use to make oneself stronger and up their chakra power.
SM mix nature energy with their own in 1 to 2 proportion thus making it 33.33...% of nature energy.
Juubi doesnt mix nature energy with anything its always pure, more bijus only result in more chakra.
100% nature energy is the ceiling in chakra power. Its the only thing that determines the power behind healing jutsu body. 17% is just extra stamina madara got. It a little advantage but not crucial.
Im making assumption? Do you know anything more powerful then 100% energy? I doubt that.
Do you a have a proof that juubi can go past nature energy with extra hachibi or kurama? I doubt that.
So the formula of empowerment with powerful chakra remains the same.
Sorry man both 7 bijus or 8.5 bijus have same chakra power. The difference in stamina is just 17%. Unless madara can convert all of juubi's chakra into one attack not shit is getting more powerful he just lasts longer.
So jin obito to jin madara is like BM naruto with 83% stamina vs BM naruto with 100%. And that's just it. One has more chakra but they have same power chakra. And the power of chakra is what determines the enhancement behind body and jutsu. More chakra doesnt mean more power only more stamina.
Juubi is made of nature energy. Its a kurama's statement. Its is so at all forms shapes as no discrimination was made.
Another evidence to prove that is that SM naruto couldnt even discriminate it against nature environment.
Nature energy so far is strongest energy known, thus strongest enhancement.
Wanna keep speculating? hachibi and kurama are just 17% in comparison to rest of bijus and they all are drop in comparison to all the energy juubi can extract from nature around.
9 > 7 in term of chakra quantity of course.
Juubi is made of natural energy the one that SM users use to make oneself stronger and up their chakra power.
SM mix nature energy with their own in 1 to 2 proportion thus making it 33.33...% of nature energy.
Juubi doesnt mix nature energy with anything its always pure, more bijus only result in more chakra.
100% nature energy is the ceiling in chakra power. Its the only thing that determines the power behind healing jutsu body. 17% is just extra stamina madara got. It a little advantage but not crucial.
Im making assumption? Do you know anything more powerful then 100% energy? I doubt that.
Do you a have a proof that juubi can go past nature energy with extra hachibi or kurama? I doubt that.
So the formula of empowerment with powerful chakra remains the same.
Sorry man both 7 bijus or 8.5 bijus have same chakra power. The difference in stamina is just 17%. Unless madara can convert all of juubi's chakra into one attack not shit is getting more powerful he just lasts longer.
So jin obito to jin madara is like BM naruto with 83% stamina vs BM naruto with 100%. And that's just it. One has more chakra but they have same power chakra. And the power of chakra is what determines the enhancement behind body and jutsu. More chakra doesnt mean more power only more stamina.
Juubi is made of nature energy. Its a kurama's statement. Its is so at all forms shapes as no discrimination was made.
Another evidence to prove that is that SM naruto couldnt even discriminate it against nature environment.
Nature energy so far is strongest energy known, thus strongest enhancement.
Wanna keep speculating? hachibi and kurama are just 17% in comparison to rest of bijus and they all are drop in comparison to all the energy juubi can extract from nature around.
Basically, the point in heere is that the juubi has 100% natural energy, and therefore, it can't get more powerful because natural energy is the most powerful. Adding bijuu just increase stamina
Adding bijuu results in more power
You're the one making assumption. Please, start to identify it, you're talking. about the purity thing again. It was never mentioned that once filed with 100% pure natural enerrgy, the juubi couldn't get more powerful.
I's not just stamina. It's raw power that results from the chakra(stamina is just physical energy, whereas chakra is spiritual energy+physical energy) of the bijus. More bijuu, more power.
Combining all bijuu results in more poer than combining 7, for exemple. It's obvious.
As I said, that 17% is huge. It's hachibi+50% kurama. This is a lot of power added to madara.
What the hell? There was no moment in which I went against the juubi being made of natural energy. But that's irrevant.
We saw that the juubi can become more powerful by getting more energy, that's why V2> V1 in power.
You're the one speculating. You have no evidence to prove that the fact that juubi is made of natural energy makes it impossible to get more powerful.
Dude, why is so hard for you to understand? It's not having stronger chakra, IT'S HAVING MORE POWER. You're putting 1,5 bijuu, and 50% kurama has even more power than hachibi. You're adding their power to the juubi. It's obvious that when you add power to something , it's gets more powerful. It's common sense, for GOD'S SAKE. My evidence is f*cking common sense!!!!!!!!!!!
I's not just stamina. It's raw power that results from the chakra(stamina is just physical energy, whereas chakra is spiritual energy+physical energy) of the bijus. More bijuu, more power.
Combining all bijuu results in more poer than combining 7, for exemple. It's obvious.
As I said, that 17% is huge. It's hachibi+50% kurama. This is a lot of power added to madara.
What the hell? There was no moment in which I went against the juubi being made of natural energy. But that's irrevant.
We saw that the juubi can become more powerful by getting more energy, that's why V2> V1 in power.
You're the one speculating. You have no evidence to prove that the fact that juubi is made of natural energy makes it impossible to get more powerful.
Dude, why is so hard for you to understand? It's not having stronger chakra, IT'S HAVING MORE POWER. You're putting 1,5 bijuu, and 50% kurama has even more power than hachibi. You're adding their power to the juubi. It's obvious that when you add power to something , it's gets more powerful. It's common sense, for GOD'S SAKE. My evidence is f*cking common sense!!!!!!!!!!!
Basically, the point in here is that bijuu have a lot of power, and mixing 8,5 bijuu results in more power than mixing 7. Thefore, madara would have more power at his disposal.
So, what do you think?
