Madara/Izuna not the first to have MS?

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I wonder why the manga stated, madara and izuna was the first to awaken MS...
but it was said by Tobirama, he had seen many countless times of uchihas awakening power from despair...

Tobirama is also aware of the EMS of sasuke, it only signifies that madara/izuna was not the first to awaken MS. They were in constant battle during childhood of hashirama/tobirama and, talking about war... there are a lot of deaths.

Therefore many uchihas (brothers/siblings/friends) saw deaths of their loved ones and should have awakened MS during battles.

Latest chapter also shows, era of hashirama was very far from the So6P
 

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The basic Sharingan is awakened from the same reason.
 

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doot do da loot to do do.
 

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someone who wanted the MS killed Izuna to get it
and blamed it on a Senju
 

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Well the first stage have to awaken some how. sasukes awoke in battle...
 

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Simply because he stated that doesn't mean Madara and Izuna were not the 1st to awaken MS. They were the 1st but not the last. Tobirama probably was referring to all the other Uchiha he saw awakening the MS after Madara and Izuna. What's more shocking to me is that Izuna, appearently was not Madara's only borther. According to Madara, he had 4 brothers!

Wonder what happened to them?
 

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Tobirama didnt know it was EMS by Sasuke because Sasuke only showed the MS
maybe it was a mistake at first but Kishi capitalized on it and did it the following chapter with the MS instead of EMS
 

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thanks for the ideas guys... i appreciate it.
 

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Each Uchiha had their Sharingan awakened, meaning that they are now filled with hatred towards the enemy (senju). Sasuke awakened his MS after Itachi's (his brothers) Death had an impact on him. It was not so for the merciless Uchiha clan.... A was termed as Honor, not loss in those times of war. This is only speculation from Hashirama's father.
 

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Most likely not, or they read the tablet of the uchiha and discovered what was involved in awakening certain things.
 

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Most likely not, or they read the tablet of the uchiha and discovered what was involved in awakening certain things.

wow you are a genius. i never thought of that... tell us more of your idea. who made the uchiha tablet? i think i gotta research on this... =]
 

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Simply because he stated that doesn't mean Madara and Izuna were not the 1st to awaken MS. They were the 1st but not the last. Tobirama probably was referring to all the other Uchiha he saw awakening the MS after Madara and Izuna. What's more shocking to me is that Izuna, appearently was not Madara's only borther. According to Madara, he had 4 brothers!

Wonder what happened to them?

So many brothers

Uchiha doesn't breed female... that's the real wonder... damn Kishi lol
 

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wow you are a genius. i never thought of that... tell us more of your idea. who made the uchiha tablet? i think i gotta research on this... =]
Maybe the older son of the SO6P made it. Or the direct descendants of the older son.
 
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well ur opinion is right but seeing the death of a dear one awakens the normal sharingan... MS can only be awakened wen u urself kill a dear one...
 

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Maybe the older son of the SO6P made it. Or the direct descendants of the older son.

most probably. yes it's the most possible logic. and passed down to uchihas, that awakening the sharingan is the key to decipher the tablet...

also we still have a lot to know about the rinnegan and the tablet. maybe there is more of it about the So6P

well ur opinion is right but seeing the death of a dear one awakens the normal sharingan... MS can only be awakened wen u urself kill a dear one...

uhm... base on narutopedia, sharingan can also be awakened during battles... like sasuke?? please correct me if i'm wrong. thanks.
 

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?obirama said that about sharingan
 

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well ur opinion is right but seeing the death of a dear one awakens the normal sharingan... MS can only be awakened wen u urself kill a dear one...

Or having someone close to you die... has been proved you yourself don't have to kill your bestfriend in order to awaken the MS.

The basic Sharingan is awakened from the same reason.

That above is the answer to this thread.

Tobirama was talking about the Sharingan, period. Not the MS. If everyone started gaining MS, it's rarity would be low and that wouldn't make Madara and Izuna look as special as they were speculated to be.
 
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