Madara... is well beyond the level of Kage. Obito is overconfident and a bit clumsy.

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I know some of you may know that I believed Tobi was Madara for the longest time and I have now come to understand and live with the fact that he is Obito, I am being completely honest when I say it is even more exciting and entertaining this way. Although I made up many theories that were actually admired and would not have been a bad way for Madara to use Obito more directly, but anyhow, I am over it.

Looking back at all of his fights after the fact, it is not that hard to realize that the man behind the mask was definitely an Uchiha, and a very skilled one. If you observe his fights with formidable opponents like the Yondaime Hokage and Akatsuki's Konan, you can clearly see the shortcomings in his experience and the mistakes he made due to his overconfidence.

Some people saw that right away and knew it could not be someone of Madara's caliber. Those who didnt, just had too much faith in the Yondaime Hokage. I simply thought that Madara could not fight with his full potential due to his body being ripped from him.

Even as a child, Obito was over zealous and clumsy. Not much had changed with him as an adult when his skills were truly tested against the best. Although his jutsu is still one of the best there is, he had too much faith in it and his Uchiha heritage, and little respect for his opponent. That is the reason he was easily beaten by Minato, and almost killed by Konan.

Uchiha Madara on the other hand is a God among ninjas. Such petty flaws are well beneath him. He never underestimates his opponents or knows it is fatal to do so. On top of that, I can confidently say there is no one in the Naruto world today, with more battle experience than him. Plus....he has the full power of the Sharingan and Rinnegan. A truly unstoppable force, in every sense of the word.
 

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true.. i hate when people say the masked man who fought minato was madara

i mean.. madara would never have lost like obito did...
 

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madara is a very bad man. i want to see how plot no jutsu gets him lol.
 

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The Obito fighting Minato was like when Vader got destroyed by Obi-Wan on Mustafar. The Obito now is more like Vader in the suit - a total badass
 

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Everyone knows this guy is beyond a Kage level........just look at this.

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Does this look like something a Kage can do?
 

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I thought it was pretty obvious that Edo Madara was beyond Kage level. xd

Obito was once overconfident of his power (who wouldn't be when your teacher is Madara himself?), but after being defeated by Minato and Konan, he acts much more cautiously now. He has to, otherwise he'll die fighting Naruto. So, in a sense, Obito has gradually become a better fighter.
 

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The Obito fighting Minato was like when Vader got destroyed by Obi-Wan on Mustafar. The Obito now is more like Vader in the suit - a total badass

LOL so true
 

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Everyone knows this guy is beyond a Kage level........just look at this.

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Does this look like something a Kage can do?



Guy you cannot give Uchiha Madara all the credit for those, maybe the perfect susanoo, but he has that power largely because of the thing poking out from his chest.

You must realize that Edo Madara is closer to the Sage of the Six Paths than he is to Uchiha Madara.
 

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Why do people think Madara fought Minato? If it was him, why didn't we see any of MADARA's techniques ; instead we only saw OBITO's technique.
 

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i think the Kage would of stood a better chance of beating Madara if he was bought back through the Rinne Tensei, than being a Edo Tensei
 

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Guy you cannot give Uchiha Madara all the credit for those, maybe the perfect susanoo, but he has that power largely because of the thing poking out from his chest.

You must realize that Edo Madara is closer to the Sage of the Six Paths than he is to Uchiha Madara.

But you do know that Metero Technique comes his part of his Rinnegan powers? the Edo Tensei gives an Ultimate Chakra.
 

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But you do know that Metero Technique comes his part of his Rinnegan powers? the Edo Tensei gives an Ultimate Chakra.

Yes but he got the Rinnegan through Hashirama, also, he was barely alive after his battle and probably did not have a choice in giving Nagato the Rinnegan. He obtained that power through Senju DNA and couldnt even use it to properly prolong his life and get revenge, instead...he had to rely on Nagato and Obito for his revival in who knows what condition!

Kabuto did him a huge favor by administering Senju cells in his dead body.
 

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edo madara no shit he is above a kage level
ems madara now he is on a kage level
 

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Obito is a bit clumsy, This is why Minato was able to hit him, and also why he underestimated kakashi's abilties.

I don't think Madara would have done that!
 
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