Madara is getting DEPTH!?

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

This was a great chapter, not only because we finally got to see Killer Bee and Hiruzen again but because something vital was revealed about Madara Uchiha's motivation.

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We finally know the reason he suddenly turned evil all those years back. It wasn't because of his own cowardly clan turning against him, Madara could've dealt with that. He left because he read the stone tablet and found out his childhood dream he made with his best friend was unachievable and he didn't want to watch him fail. His rivalry remained intact.

My only problem with Madara Uchiha was the flashback and the fact that he had little to no depth- only wanting power and to do evil things because eh, he was a one-dimensional villain with no goal other than to be evil for the sake of it. The stone tablet revelation gives Madara's motivation meaning and in seconds- made the character about 10 times as interesting.

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Big question is- why wasn't this brought into the plot sooner? I'm guessing it happened around the time of the chapter shown in the picture above. So why couldn't Kishimoto show us Madara reading it? He didn't have to show what it said, only that it affected Madara in a HUGE way. It would've made Madara seem less simple and also added an extra mystery for us all to speculate upon.​

 

[Cosman]

Kishi clearly got tired of paper thin Uchihas and wanted to do something about it.

Not bad, though. At least his "winners and losers" dialogue isn't so empty. The "loser" part has some ground.

 

[scorezor]

This was a great chapter, not only because we finally got to see Killer Bee and Hiruzen again but because something vital was revealed about Madara Uchiha's motivation.

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We finally know the reason he suddenly turned evil all those years back. It wasn't because of his own cowardly clan turning against him, Madara could've dealt with that. He left because he read the stone tablet and found out his childhood dream he made with his best friend was unachievable and he didn't want to watch him fail. His rivalry remained intact.

My only problem with Madara Uchiha was the flashback and the fact that he had little to no depth- only wanting power and to do evil things because eh, he was a one-dimensional villain with no goal other than to be evil for the sake of it. The stone tablet revelation gives Madara's motivation meaning and in seconds- made the character about 10 times as interesting.

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Big question is- why wasn't this brought into the plot sooner? I'm guessing it happened around the time of the chapter shown in the picture above. So why couldn't Kishimoto show us Madara reading it? He didn't have to show what it said, only that it affected Madara in a HUGE way. It would've made Madara seem less simple and also added an extra mystery for us all to speculate upon.​

Dude , madara is alive , just saying , but wtv. i just don't care about it anymore.

 

[Uchiha Josephus]

Well to answer your question at the end, Kishi didn't reveal everything during the flashbacks so that it would build up the mystery surrounding it all.

I gotta admit, Kishi is a great writer

But yeah, I'm glad Madara has a bit more depth to his character now

 

[The Necromancer]

This was a great chapter, not only because we finally got to see Killer Bee and Hiruzen again but because something vital was revealed about Madara Uchiha's motivation.

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We finally know the reason he suddenly turned evil all those years back. It wasn't because of his own cowardly clan turning against him, Madara could've dealt with that. He left because he read the stone tablet and found out his childhood dream he made with his best friend was unachievable and he didn't want to watch him fail. His rivalry remained intact.

My only problem with Madara Uchiha was the flashback and the fact that he had little to no depth- only wanting power and to do evil things because eh, he was a one-dimensional villain with no goal other than to be evil for the sake of it. The stone tablet revelation gives Madara's motivation meaning and in seconds- made the character about 10 times as interesting.

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Big question is- why wasn't this brought into the plot sooner? I'm guessing it happened around the time of the chapter shown in the picture above. So why couldn't Kishimoto show us Madara reading it? He didn't have to show what it said, only that it affected Madara in a HUGE way. It would've made Madara seem less simple and also added an extra mystery for us all to speculate upon.​

Because Hashirama was telling us the story, and he didn't know that. So therefor showing us would mean he had clairvoyance in subjects he shouldn't.

 

[Narutohokage7]

Kishi clearly got tired of paper thin Uchihas and wanted to do something about it.

Not bad, though. At least his "winners and losers" dialogue isn't so empty. The "loser" part has some ground.

Indeed. I agree.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Well to answer your question at the end, Kishi didn't reveal everything during the flashbacks so that it would build up the mystery surrounding it all.

I gotta admit, Kishi is a great writer

But yeah, I'm glad Madara has a bit more depth to his character now

Um, there wasn't a mystery in the first place because he never set it up. He's just springing this tree business on us now. Which is alright but would've been much better placed to be introduced and not explained during the Madara Hashirama flashback.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

wonder if he told obito about all this cause i dont think he did

 

[Bronze]

Madara shall become the juubi jinch and the true final villian and prove to dem n1ggas that he is the solo king and the haxed motherf@ucker in the world.

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[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Madara shall become the juubi jinch and the true final villian and prove to dem n1ggas that he is the solo king and the haxed motherf@ucker in the world.

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You're being sarcastic right? Cmon MadaraRules, you're better than this :')

I'm just happy Madara finally has character development and we have proof he's a far more giving and complex character than Hashirama, Minato or the rest of these other era ninjas. Madara doesn't need to be the final villain, neither does Obito. It's not a competition. It's a story, and i'm happy this current madara is equal with Obito in terms of the plot. I'm excited to see where this is taken next.

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

Yah this manga chapter was awsome, and my fave rivalry is between Madara and Hashirama.

But to answer your questions. Kishi didn't allow us to see this about Madara reading the Uchiha stone tablet earlier on because it was from Hashirama's perspective. Unless Hashirama was there when Madara was reading the tablet, such a thing was impossible and would've made the story seem illogical because he wasn't there. hmm Also the reason for why he is resorting to this plan and doesn't follow Hashirama's ideals is because (1) they are rivals and from opposing clans (2) they are following what they believe is right and convenient to them. :yeah: Hope you understand. *_*

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

Madara shall become the juubi jinch and the true final villian and prove to dem n1ggas that he is the solo king and the haxed motherf@ucker in the world.

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U know kishi cant let Madara become the juubi jin without a major BS in how they would defeat him

 

[Touken]

I think he was mostly fueled by his brother's deaths.

I mean, the Juubi was never going to come back because it was sealed away. Madara went out of his way to do all this just because he realized if the Juubi came back, it'd take back all of it's chakra?

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Yah this manga chapter was awsome, and my fave rivalry is between Madara and Hashirama.

But to answer your questions. Kishi didn't allow us to see this about Madara reading the Uchiha stone tablet earlier on because it was from Hashirama's perspective. Unless Hashirama was there when Madara was reading the tablet, such a thing was impossible and would've made the story seem illogical because he wasn't there. hmm Also the reason for why he is resorting to this plan and doesn't follow Hashirama's ideals is because (1) they are rivals and from opposing clans (2) they are following what they believe is right and convenient to them. :yeah: Hope you understand. *_*

I did think of this immediately after but from a writing perspective, this sort of thing would've been easily plausible. I mean, they're leaving out literally the most important part of the Madara/Hashirama flashback and that's where it all went wrong. Hashirama could've easily been written to have been there when it was read but wasn't sadly. It's just wasted potential IMO.

 

[Xlad]

The loser's schpeel actually makes more sense now. Now I know Madara ain't butthurt over Hashi.

 

[foxyladyland]

Big question is- why wasn't this brought into the plot sooner? I'm guessing it happened around the time of the chapter shown in the picture above. So why couldn't Kishimoto show us Madara reading it? He didn't have to show what it said, only that it affected Madara in a HUGE way. It would've made Madara seem less simple and also added an extra mystery for us all to speculate upon.​

you're right . it would have been another beautiful mystery for the readers to ponder. madara is so beautiful.

The loser's schpeel actually makes more sense now. Now I know Madara ain't butthurt over Hashi.

I always thought the Losers agony was over his Uchiha brother's deaths (Izuna) and humans (ninja) fighting over everything and dying for nothing.

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

I did think of this immediately after but from a writing perspective, this sort of thing would've been easily plausible. I mean, they're leaving out literally the most important part of the Madara/Hashirama flashback and that's where it all went wrong. Hashirama could've easily been written to have been there when it was read but wasn't sadly. It's just wasted potential IMO.

I understand how you feel. hmm Well, I guess that's why we have the anime so that scenarios are more elaborated. =D Yah, this is probably the only thing I can say. :yeah: An example is like we saw in Madara's fight against the alliance. Studio Pierrot added the extra scenes that showed Madara doing some taijutsu and kenjutsu on the alliance. Now obviously you would have noticed that these scenes were not in the manga. Yup, I suppose It's all down to Studio Pierrot and Hayato Date.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

I understand how you feel. hmm Well, I guess that's why we have the anime so that scenarios are more elaborated. =D Yah, this is probably the only thing I can say. :yeah: An example is like we saw in Madara's fight against the alliance. Studio Pierrot added the extra scenes that showed Madara doing some taijutsu and kenjutsu on the alliance. Now obviously you would have noticed that these scenes were not in the manga. Yup, I suppose It's all down to Studio Pierrot and Hayato Date.

We can only hope. Still, I have to be grateful today's twist was added at all. Such a good chapter.