Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

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Madara is not going at Naruto or Bee with an intent to kill, or else his entire century old plan will get folded in a second. I can't believe everyone is ignoring this. Madara is the strongest Uchiha, who was only rivaled by Hashirama. Naruto is nothing compared to them.
madara took out five kages so did naruto take out five beats
obvsly lets keep watching if your dearest madara will show all his powers you say he has.
You just can say what you like but funny that you say madara is strong but still not captured naruto yet.
Do you remember when pain went to capture that booble guy(7 tails or so) pain didn't go for a kill but he took that guy no diff that yes i can gladly say pain is stronger but madara is sweating his ass out just to capture naruto if madara is strong as you think even if its to capture not to kill he should has being able to capture naruto easily like pain did to the guy.madara is strong but not as you think him to be.
I thought you re a reasonable dude i always respected you but it seems you re more like a fanboy
 

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guess i didn't phrase it well...perfect susano have a power comparable to a bijuu...

there oen susasno who beats all bijuu and thats itachis son
 

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madara took out five kages so did naruto take out five beats
obvsly lets keep watching if your dearest madara will show all his powers you say he has.
You just can say what you like but funny that you say madara is strong but still not captured naruto yet.
Do you remember when pain went to capture that booble guy(7 tails or so) pain didn't go for a kill but he took that guy no diff that yes i can gladly say pain is stronger but madara is sweating his ass out just to capture naruto if madara is strong as you think even if its to capture not to kill he should has being able to capture naruto easily like pain did to the guy.madara is strong but not as you think him to be.
I thought you re a reasonable dude i always respected you but it seems you re more like a fanboy

Pein's fight is not comparable to this because of Jinchuriki's progress in terms of their Bijuu. Madara hopes to take out the beast by subduing Naruto here on the battle field. They have no back ups, so he is playing it safe. Both Madara and Hashirama are legends and were so because of their prowess in ACTUAL warfare. You cannot simply disregard that for your own convenience.

You can believe whatever you want to in regards to my posts, whether you respect them or not is not a factor for me. It seems you over-react over small points. Not a very respectful way to post things.
 

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Madara is too overrated. Its kinda annoying that he was given all these abilities (EMS, Rinnegan, Wood-style, etc). Not to mention the fact that he was revived through edo tensei. He is still an awesome character though
 

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Exactly the point, he spammed all that cause he couldn't die from chaakra loss cause he was a dead body. Now he's back to life and is no longer an Edo. So he is limited as any human would be without the spammability of edo. So yea. non-edo Madara. Not so strong.

he's still edo thats why its a forbidden jutsu, if someone can release the technique they become an unlimited chakra'd zombie
 

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madara took out five kages so did naruto take out five beats
obvsly lets keep watching if your dearest madara will show all his powers you say he has.
You just can say what you like but funny that you say madara is strong but still not captured naruto yet.
Do you remember when pain went to capture that booble guy(7 tails or so) pain didn't go for a kill but he took that guy no diff that yes i can gladly say pain is stronger but madara is sweating his ass out just to capture naruto if madara is strong as you think even if its to capture not to kill he should has being able to capture naruto easily like pain did to the guy.madara is strong but not as you think him to be.
I thought you re a reasonable dude i always respected you but it seems you re more like a fanboy

k lets just put it like this madara not just fighting naruto hes fighting guy and kakashi and bee k obviously the nine tails strongest out of the orginal bijuu and now kurama giving naruto unlimited chakra but naruto has yet to land any attacks on madara and as you see hes just chilling like oh well
 

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Cuz we haven't seen 10 perfect susanoos with wood dragons and amaterasu and wood spamming and rinnengan
 
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Madara and obito are not on their full power yet, we all know the power of the rinnegan and it seem that the users of the rinnegan have different powers. My opinion is that they are saving chakra for the moon plan which i think demand a lot. So they are using the bijuu power to finish them without using their their own chakra.

I think that madara and obito's plan will fail and they will have no choose but to have a full out fight with naruto team. what do you think folk's?
 

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Can somebody show me a manga page of naruto hitting madara oh thats right you can't :p

Madara is not strong as Naruto is.Madara does not have mastered his Rinnegan. Naruto Bijuu Mode can kill him. Madara call himself like the strongest and like a GOD, but he is not. He is just a damn villian shinobi. That's all.
 

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For me, Obito can own Madara.
 
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This is so sad. If Madara went at naruto himself with the intent he had during his fight with the kages, naruto would be dead. Smh
 

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Madara is planning for something.. He wasn't executed any fatal actions yet.. I think with the arrival of the shinobi alliance great collision will happen and I am looking forward to Madara's killing spree..
 

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omg this is really funny.
madara fanboys just cant accept that naruto can keep up with him.

MADASA SAID he fights sirious

FANBOYS SAY he isnt fighting sirious.

what the heck is wrong with this poeples?
 

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This is so sad. If Madara went at naruto himself with the intent he had during his fight with the kages, naruto would be dead. Smh

if madara wasnt edo he would be dead at the fight with the kage

lets keep away the IF word
 

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I'm sorry but this thread cannot be serious...

Without Gai and Bee being in the picture, Naruto's captured by now. The only reason he hasn't is because of them. You stated the Wood Dragon didn't work, but I think it did work. It was draining both Kurama's powers and the Hachibi. If Gai hadn't used one of his best Jutsu to DISTRACT Madara for a second by hitting him in the back, they probably wouldn't have broken out of it. So really this thread is invalid due to this not being just a Naruto vs. Madara fight.

I don't see why I'm seeing the word underestimating Naruto now when since the second half has begun I've seen a little too much praise of Naruto. Did I mention that Kurama is also there assisting Naruto? Kakashi would be dead already too if not for what Kurama did for him.

I find it funny that there was nothing but people in awe when Madara was fighting the Five Kage and did them in but now you're all quick to say he's overrated? You're being far too quick to speak. If you've read the latest chapter, you know What Madara, Obito and the Juubi are up against and we'll see how great the Shinobi Alliance does when they HEAVILY outnumber their enemy. Now is the time where I think you'll see Madara really serious.
 

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IMO Madara may be trying to get rid of Obito. He has let Obito take the helm of battling while he sat on that rock and relaxed after Guy's attack. Now Madara wants to let the Juubi do all the work. Madara seems to be letting everyone tire themselves out and have to face him last.

The Kages wore themselves out and then he revealed perfect Susanoo. He completely over whelmed all 5 Kages. The only reason Naruto and company are still standing is bc of plot no just.

Perfect Susanoo, wood dragon, and wood clones with susanoo would have completely obliterated Naruto, Bee, Kakashi, Guy and the 8 and 9 tails. And lets not forget that Obito is also holding back seeing as we have not seen him use wood style nor has he used the rinnegan.
 

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Kishi had included a few hints about Madara...Kurama
1. Instead of Nagato revived him but Kabuto did it first before Obito. That's why when Naruto said about 2 Madara.
It was possible that Obito was not happy and did not trust Kabuto. Kabuto want it all by himself.
2. Madara seem to be tired easily when Gai gave a direct hit. Note that when 5th Hokage hit him, he was not tired.
So, there were quite some different between being done by Nagato's rinnegan and Kabuto's edo.
Nagato's rinnegan is powerful, just see how Leaf Village 's being dead and reverse it back to actual life people.
But Kabuto's edo was different, just like puppets. Madara sense that it was done by edo and not rinnegan.
3. In the beginning, the 1st Hokage distributed the all bijuu, and he took the Kurama.
Interesting fact was 4th Hokage knew about Kurama's power so he sealed it inside Naruto, so as to deal with the Madara.
The 5th Hokage said (to herself, when Naruto/Bee go to War) that there were some reason on why Minato did it.
Only by using Kurama's power, Naruto would be able to deal with Madara. Because Kurama's is most powerful of the 9 tailed-beast.
4. The Juubi was not complete although part of the 8 & 9 bijuu 's chakra. That was why Madara asked Obito what happen.

Part of Madara's plan went wrong direction. Maybe while he rest, he have to figure what to do next.
Madara cannot let anyone, including Obito, to know that the his plan had gone wrong.
That's could explained why Madara talk no jutsu so as he need think.
So is Naruto using the same talk no jutsu, buying time for Kurama...................................
 

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Well, it was stated that Madara and Hashirama had similar chakra, in terms of amount. Well, to be precise, it was said that they had potent chakra that was off the charts. I'm going to say that Naruto is still outclassed, simply due to the fact that he has 8 minutes in Bijuu mode, then he's a sitting duck. Sure, if he has mastery of the fusion like Bee does, then it'd be different. But he doesn't. Just because he uses a jutsu and it fails to kill him, all of you are saying he's weak. Yet, in every other normal fight, one uses several jutsu, generally wastes them, and they aren't considered weak for doing so. Madara lives up to the hype with or without Edo Tensei.
 

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I'm sorry but this thread cannot be serious...

Without Gai and Bee being in the picture, Naruto's captured by now. The only reason he hasn't is because of them. You stated the Wood Dragon didn't work, but I think it did work. It was draining both Kurama's powers and the Hachibi. If Gai hadn't used one of his best Jutsu to DISTRACT Madara for a second by hitting him in the back, they probably wouldn't have broken out of it. So really this thread is invalid due to this not being just a Naruto vs. Madara fight.

I don't see why I'm seeing the word underestimating Naruto now when since the second half has begun I've seen a little too much praise of Naruto. Did I mention that Kurama is also there assisting Naruto? Kakashi would be dead already too if not for what Kurama did for him.

I find it funny that there was nothing but people in awe when Madara was fighting the Five Kage and did them in but now you're all quick to say he's overrated? You're being far too quick to speak. If you've read the latest chapter, you know What Madara, Obito and the Juubi are up against and we'll see how great the Shinobi Alliance does when they HEAVILY outnumber their enemy. Now is the time where I think you'll see Madara really serious.

I agree with your post, but there is something all of us need to remember. This manga isn't exactly realistic, and people in the manga don't react to certain situations in a way that you would expect them to. Some character actions are illogical, like Madara not just raping all 4 of them (Bee, Gai, Naruto, Kakashi) with the kind of devastating power he used on the 5 Kage. We all need to remember that this manga is written by one man, and it is subject to his whim.

The part of your post that I don't agree with is the last part where you say Madara will get serious now that he is drastically outnumbered. In our world, that would be the logical thing to do; but this is the Narutoverse. One would expect Madara to start using PS and Wood clones to even out the playing field, but Kishimoto probably wont have him do that. If Madara went "all out" using the power he displayed in the fight with the Kage, the manga would seriously end because not only can Madara alone handle most of the Allied Shinobi Forces, but he also has Obito and the freakin Juubi fighting beside him.

If Kishi displayed Madara with what we know he is capable of, there would no longer be a manga to write, because the Good Guys wouldn't win; and we all know the Good Guy always wins. So this could go two ways depending on how Kishi feels.

1) Madara continues to do nothing while the Allied Shinobi Forces destroy the Juubi, and then proceed to seal Madara (While Kishi still refuses to have him go "all out")

2) Madara decides to intervene and fights alongside the Juubi, but he isn't using the kind of power he used in his fight with the Kage; and he still loses to the Allied Shinobi Forces.

Either way, Madara can't fight unrestricted in all his glory because the Good Guys wouldn't be able to handle that, and they would lose. (Unless there is some PNJ involved)
 
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