Madara, Hashirama, Tobi, Nagato vs Itachi, Sakura, Sasuke, Kakashi, Gai, Minato, Mei

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Match-up Of The Year


Team 1 and Team 2 is at full power: in thier prime. The distance from where the match starts is 44 meters. The location is a stony area filled with boulders. Both teams've full intel on each other. Thier mind set is kill. The manner through which the match is won is: killing and submission and K.O.

Here's my analysis,


Itachi and Sakura >>>>> Madara and Tobi.
Sasuke and Kakashi >>> Hashirama and Nagato.
Gai and Minato and Mei further support >>>>> Nagato and Tobi.


Do you agree with the list or've a different view on the tier list and how the match'll turn out? Mention your case scenario of the winning team.
 
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Prime Madara or Obito would refer to their Jinchuriki forms, so they each solo low difficulty simply because Jubi's power is at DBZ level, aka planet buster. Kakashi might survive long enough with intangibility, but he'll be stomped eventually.
 

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Which forms? If jubi 3 eyed madara then team 2 probably loses no matter what but if lower forms then team 2 can win depending on their forms like rinnegan sasuke BM minato, DMS kakashi etc. Very vague match up.
 

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Which forms? If jubi 3 eyed madara then team 2 probably loses no matter what but if lower forms then team 2 can win depending on their forms like rinnegan sasuke BM minato, DMS kakashi etc. Very vague match up.
In the prime, meaning DMS Kakashi, Six Paths Madara, BM Minato, Byakugou Sakura.
 

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In the prime, meaning DMS Kakashi, Six Paths Madara, BM Minato, Byakugou Sakura.
On 2nd thoughts it is a good match up. Gai (8th gate) and sasuke vs madara will be a good fight. And kakashi can mop the floor with others on team 1. I am leaning towards team 2. I will say team 2 then if kakashi has sufficient stamina.
 

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Lmfao Six Paths Madara with double Rinnegan is literally the SO6P. He wins this alone; he has Kaguya’s third eye which’ll allow him to access Obito’s pocket dimension and kill Kakashi. He has all Sage Art jutsus, Divine- Deep Forest Emergence and all of Hashirama’s mokuton techniques, All Rinnegan abilities, Shinju chakra, TSBs, Perfect Susano’o, etc. To top it all off, he has Hashirama in Sage mode and Nagato who possess Madara’s Rinnegan as well. Let’s be honest, there’s no way in hell that Madara’s going to let Might Guy release the Eighth Gate again. You should’ve tossed RSM Naruto to help them because Sasuke didn’t do shit against Kaguya by himself and Sasuke only got those hits in on Juubi Madara because he was still gathering intel. Now that he has intel, the opposing team can’t win.

Edit: I forgot that Tobi was on their team also. DMS Tobi > DMS KAKASHI, So there’s no way Kakashi wins.
 
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Lmfao Six Paths Madara with double Rinnegan is literally the SO6P. He wins this alone; he has Kaguya’s third eye which’ll allow him to access Obito’s pocket dimension and kill Kakashi. He has all Sage Art jutsus, Divine- Deep Forest Emergence and all of Hashirama’s mokuton techniques, All Rinnegan abilities, Shinju chakra, TSBs, Perfect Susano’o, etc. To top it all off, he has Hashirama in Sage mode and Nagato who possess Madara’s Rinnegan as well. Let’s be honest, there’s no way in hell that Madara’s going to let Might Guy release the Eighth Gate again. You should’ve tossed RSM Naruto to help them because Sasuke didn’t do shit against Kaguya by himself and Sasuke only got those hits in on Juubi Madara because he was still gathering intel. Now that he has intel, the opposing team can’t win.

Edit: I forgot that Tobi was on their team also. DMS Tobi > DMS KAKASHI, So there’s no way Kakashi wins.
It's debateable.


DMS Tobi is not necessarily >>>> DMS Kakashi, since Kakashi has Raikiri Kamui which cuts and phases through at the same time.


I could debate this all day.
 

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It's debateable.


DMS Tobi is not necessarily >>>> DMS Kakashi, since Kakashi has Raikiri Kamui which cuts and phases through at the same time.


I could debate this all day.
There you go talking ridiculous again, rofl. You’re trying to tell me that Six Paths Chakra enhanced, DMS Obito (his natural eyes) with Hashirama DNA could be defeated by DMS Kakashi? Using the original eyes principal, the eyes are the strongest when they’re used by the original bearer of the doujutsu. Regardless of what techniques Kakashi has, he loses.
 

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There you go talking ridiculous again, rofl. You’re trying to tell me that Six Paths Chakra enhanced, DMS Obito (his natural eyes) with Hashirama DNA could be defeated by DMS Kakashi? Using the original eyes principal, the eyes are the strongest when they’re used by the original bearer of the doujutsu. Regardless of what techniques Kakashi has, he loses.
Eye vs eye, Kakashi loses.


Technique vs Technique, Kakashi wins.



The opposite team has Gai 8 gate and BM Minato putting kunais all over the place to teleport and hit a flash TBB directly on the big boys.


We've itachi repelling all of Obito's attacks which consist of kamui shuriken and wood element back at him and a TotsukaSword trying to pierce through DMS Susano'O and sealing it including reflecting it's attacks back at his team members, who'll all die during the onslaught of thier own attacks.



This match is some thing you should give thorough thought before commenting.
 

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Eye vs eye, Kakashi loses.


Technique vs Technique, Kakashi wins.



The opposite team has Gai 8 gate and BM Minato putting kunais all over the place to teleport and hit a flash TBB directly on the big boys.


We've itachi repelling all of Obito's attacks which consist of kamui shuriken and wood element back at him and a TotsukaSword trying to pierce through DMS Susano'O and sealing it including reflecting it's attacks back at his team members, who'll all die during the onslaught of thier own attacks.



This match is some thing you should give thorough thought before commenting.
Lmfao, on the contrary; You should’ve though more about your replies before commenting. Obito can use Mokuton techniques to attack below and inside of Itachi’s Susano’o. Such techniques had been seen when Obito first awakened his MS. Obito can also warp away the spirit weapons and even create openings in Itachi’s Susano’o just as Kakashi’s did to Madara’s TSB to create an opening for Guy to directly strike Madara. Not to mention that Obito’s warp speed is doubled since he has both MS. Lmfao try harder.

Edit: You also have Nagato who can repel and push Minato’s shuriken away at will. If he decides on a Shinra Tensei (short range or wide ranged), he takes care of Minato’s TBB. Or Madara’s PS could knock it away or Hashirama’s Wood Style would take care of it. Not to mention that Madara and Nagato can both absorb a TBB due to their Rinnegan. Like I said earlier, Guy won’t get a chance to use Eight Gates. Madara or Nagato could pull him in using Universal Pull and in the process Obito could Kamui part of his body away. Thusly leaving Guy in a maimed state. More scenarios to come.
 
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Susano'O is not hollow in below, how can an absolute defense greater than gaara's sand going to be penetrated from below? Onoki's light weight jutsu is a special jutsu, sand could only penetrate through madara after he lightened it including the surrounding sand.



Mokuton cannot penetrate that way.


The spirit weapons cannot be warped because they are spirit weapons.
 

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Susano'O is not hollow in below, how can an absolute defense greater than gaara's sand going to be penetrated from below? Onoki's light weight jutsu is a special jutsu, sand could only penetrate through madara after he lightened it including the surrounding sand.



Mokuton cannot penetrate that way.


The spirit weapons cannot be warped because they are spirit weapons.

Lmfao way to fail, Itachi’s Susano’o is hollowed below. He doesn’t have a legged Susano’o variant meaning that attacks channeled through the ground and up to the inside Susano’o would work which are Wood Techniques. Gaara’s sand was lightened to catch Madara by surprise with him having to be grabbed and snatched out of it. Lmfao @Bold: still trying to figure out how you let yourself fail this badly, huh? If they’re spirit weapons they shouldn’t be able to be touched too, right? Sasuke attacked Itachi’s Yata Mirror THUSLY it can be warped. Same for the Totsuka Blade and the entirety of Susano’o.
 

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Lmfao, on the contrary; You should’ve though more about your replies before commenting. Obito can use Mokuton techniques to attack below and inside of Itachi’s Susano’o. Such techniques had been seen when Obito first awakened his MS. Obito can also warp away the spirit weapons and even create openings in Itachi’s Susano’o just as Kakashi’s did to Madara’s TSB to create an opening for Guy to directly strike Madara. Not to mention that Obito’s warp speed is doubled since he has both MS. Lmfao try harder.

Edit: You also have Nagato who can repel and push Minato’s shuriken away at will. If he decides on a Shinra Tensei (short range or wide ranged), he takes care of Minato’s TBB. Or Madara’s PS could knock it away or Hashirama’s Wood Style would take care of it. Not to mention that Madara and Nagato can both absorb a TBB due to their Rinnegan. Like I said earlier, Guy won’t get a chance to use Eight Gates. Madara or Nagato could pull him in using Universal Pull and in the process Obito could Kamui part of his body away. Thusly leaving Guy in a maimed state. More scenarios to come.
Guy gets the chance to enter gates when Minato spreads the kunai every where, goes BM and teleports gai with him. Kakashi warps mokuton away with said projectile. Shinra Tensei is useless before Rikudou enhanced kamui.
Nagato and Madara gets warped. Yata repels thier ocular attacks and kills them with it.

Lmfao way to fail, Itachi’s Susano’o is hollowed below. He doesn’t have a legged Susano’o variant meaning that attacks channeled through the ground and up to the inside Susano’o would work which are Wood Techniques. Gaara’s sand was lightened to catch Madara by surprise with him having to be grabbed and snatched out of it. Lmfao @Bold: still trying to figure out how you let yourself fail this badly, huh? If they’re spirit weapons they shouldn’t be able to be touched too, right? Sasuke attacked Itachi’s Yata Mirror THUSLY it can be warped. Same for the Totsuka Blade and the entirety of Susano’o.
Spirit weapons cannot be touched because they lack tangibility. It works on a mechanism where it can remain intangible and attack at the same time, it's kishimoto's rule. Onoki lightened sand with intent to bypass susanoo, gaara thought his sand cannot penetrate susanoo before onoki did it.
 

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Guy gets the chance to enter gates when Minato spreads the kunai every where, goes BM and teleports gai with him. Kakashi warps mokuton away with said projectile. Shinra Tensei is useless before Rikudou enhanced kamui.
Nagato and Madara gets warped. Yata repels thier ocular attacks and kills them with it.


Spirit weapons cannot be touched because they lack tangibility. It works on a mechanism where it can remain intangible and attack at the same time, it's kishimoto's rule. Onoki lightened sand with intent to bypass susanoo, gaara thought his sand cannot penetrate susanoo before onoki did it.

LMFAO fail and try hard at best. What ocular attack is Yata Mirror going to reflect? They don’t have Amaterasu :lmao:
And like I said, Three Mokuton users, two with Sage mode and one that’s literally immortal. Rofl, Shinra Tensei is definitely not useless if Obito opens a portal to HIS pocket dimension and let’s the splash damage effect of Shinra Tensei go into there. That way, shinra Tensei would kill Kakashi and all of those inside the pocket dimension. Let’s not mention that the Mokuton wouldn’t be a projectile, you dunce. It would be a tree branch channeling itself through the ground and manifesting itself within Itachi’s Susano’o. Madara’s mokuton clones distract and attack everyone while the Limbo clones kill them. Rofl no way you’re getting out of this with the bullshit you tried to pull.

Lmfao at the desperation to end this debate with those asspulls emphasized in bold. Obito’s Kamui warps inside of Itachi’s Susano’o And Obito kills Itachi from the inside. Nagato turns Itachi into a rag doll by literally picking him up and tossing him side to side; pushing and pulling him away. Nagato would simultaneously be using the Ningendo to take the opposing teams souls while Jigokudo to revive the enemies dead forces to add them to their team. Not that they’ll need it, Madara alone solos but you’re an idiot so I’ll play along. Not even going to mention the other paths Nagato could use in this situation. Madara at any given time could decide to cast IT which would force Sasuke to try and scramble to the isolated forces spread across the battlefield and try to protect them. He can’t get to all of them, his ameno has a limited range. He loses his support force and has to go again Nagato and Madara alone. Rip.
 

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Madara honestly solo’s. If he decides to cast IT sasuke would be in a bind, if he decides to cover his teammates he would be left open and would get obliterated by a Juubi TBB. If not IT wipes out everybody in team 2, sasuke is then left alone to face team 1.
 

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LMFAO fail and try hard at best. What ocular attack is Yata Mirror going to reflect? They don’t have Amaterasu :lmao:
And like I said, Three Mokuton users, two with Sage mode and one that’s literally immortal. Rofl, Shinra Tensei is definitely not useless if Obito opens a portal to HIS pocket dimension and let’s the splash damage effect of Shinra Tensei go into there. That way, shinra Tensei would kill Kakashi and all of those inside the pocket dimension. Let’s not mention that the Mokuton wouldn’t be a projectile, you dunce. It would be a tree branch channeling itself through the ground and manifesting itself within Itachi’s Susano’o. Madara’s mokuton clones distract and attack everyone while the Limbo clones kill them. Rofl no way you’re getting out of this with the bullshit you tried to pull.

Lmfao at the desperation to end this debate with those asspulls emphasized in bold. Obito’s Kamui warps inside of Itachi’s Susano’o And Obito kills Itachi from the inside. Nagato turns Itachi into a rag doll by literally picking him up and tossing him side to side; pushing and pulling him away. Nagato would simultaneously be using the Ningendo to take the opposing teams souls while Jigokudo to revive the enemies dead forces to add them to their team. Not that they’ll need it, Madara alone solos but you’re an idiot so I’ll play along. Not even going to mention the other paths Nagato could use in this situation. Madara at any given time could decide to cast IT which would force Sasuke to try and scramble to the isolated forces spread across the battlefield and try to protect them. He can’t get to all of them, his ameno has a limited range. He loses his support force and has to go again Nagato and Madara alone. Rip.
Yata Shield reflects thier wood back at them. IT is reflected back at the moon's eye which is Madara's eye, and he'll be caught in his own genjutsu.

BM Minato can throw a kunai in the sky and catch gai and teleport into said kunai, and that, kakashi can warp into the other dimension, by that time, gai'll've opened 8 gate and used hand seals to invite the dragon and twist space which'll stop madara and his team's movement and distort the gudodamas and wood elements.


Nagato's hell summons and human realm is short range, so they are dealt with itachi kunai or itachi's punch and kick which easily beat kcm naruto's punches. Hell summon was intangible and invisible but itachi saw it and defeated it.

Almighty push is dealt with by chakra focusing on the feet and if that doesn't work, Susano'Os can protect itachi and team from the force.

Using the two in conjunction might rip Susano'O, but there are 3 susano'Os which needs ripping, which's force ST + BT do not've.

Kakashi uses raikiri kamui to phase and strike madara and obito at the same time, he'll not've a defense because kamui can beat kamui, so phasing through that is useless.

Flash tbb from inside the susano'O will pressure them backwards and they wouldn't be using thier moves effectively, giving opportunity for a tsukuyomi which will mentally and spiritually destroy them (Kisame said tsukiyomi can destroy the soul of the enemy.) Kamui shuriken blended with yata shield's body'll repel obito's kamui shuriken and destroy him, at the same time he'll get hit by kakashi's shuriken which's incoming.

Kamui shuriken counters limbo, yata reflects limbo at madara and it'll accidently punch madara who'll recieve damage, and taking that opportunity, minato will teleport beside him with flying raijin two and, slice his body, if they survive eight gate gai's night guy, which'll terribly injure madara's body and one-shot obito and the rest's body, by the fact, madara is the most durable among them.

Survivors' get stabbed by PS chidori and indra arrow which'll kill them, and it can be added with Rinnegan genjutsu which they wouldn't break.

If they survive yet again with combined tsb shields and shinra tensei combined, an intangible totsuka'll slice them and seal them away for all eternity in an eternal genjutsu.

Bijuudama is countered by Minato's own and the space stopping red aura's power which'll stop the bijuudamas in mid-air, allowing it to be kicked back with yasaka magatama and susano'O arrows.





Sakura can punch them back with her fists, by the fact, she injured kaguya's horn and blitzed her with byakugan on and at her full power.

No one in team 1'd be able to keep up with a fresh sakura because that version was chakra exhausted weakened sakura.


She could punch them after overpowering them with speed. After she overpowers them, they wouldn't've power to move, so sasuke'll take advantage and slash thier limbs with chidori blade, if they dodge it, he'll stream chidori nagashi throughout a mid range radius and electrify thier nerves so that they can't move and cut them with chidori sword.

Team 2 wins with thier unique combination attacks.

Btw respond to me on that “Is Kakuzu of African descent” thread.
You're obsessed aren't you.
 

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LMFAO at that first part alone. You’ve been defeated; hold the L.

@Second quote: Finish what you started. If not, shut the f*ck up and don’t @ me when I’m on topics such as those.
Databooks state factually that, Yata Shield can reflect every attack, whether from ninjutsu, physical, astral and material bodies. In short, it reflects wood and entraps madara and obito in thier own wood style which they'll break with thier power but, they'll be restrained and delayed enough for minato to teleport with gai by kamui and wreck team 1.
 

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Databooks state factually that, Yata Shield can reflect every attack, whether from ninjutsu, physical, astral and material bodies. In short, it reflects wood and entraps madara and obito in thier own wood style which they'll break with thier power but, they'll be restrained and delayed enough for minato to teleport with gai by kamui and wreck team 1.
Idk why my response got deleted but nevertheless; your fanfic =/= facts. I love how you never responded to me in that other thread too :lmao:
 
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