Madara has made himself base SO6P/He is above Juubito's connection to SO6P

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This theory will cover the fact that Madara is coming close to becoming the new SO6P, and will be able to harness all the jutsu that SO6P himself could use.

As we all know, the SO6P's sons were born with his power. One with his body, and the other with his eyes.
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The Sage's older son created the Uchiha, who posses the Sharingan. As we all know, once a sharingan has reached EMS, it then has Not all Uchihas have the potential to awaken it, let alone push EMS to such far levels. They have to be a direct descendant of the Elder Son.

The Sage's younger son created the Senju. The youngest son inherited the SO6P's life force and physical energy. Hashirama, a direct descendant of the younger son, posseses Wood Style and the younger son's body. Because he is a direct descendant, he holds great power and took over as head of the clan. If Hashirama has Wood Ninjutsu and is a direct descendant of the younger son, we can conclude that the younge son also had Wood Ninjutsu. Meaning that he could also absorb chakra.

The Uzamki clan, cousins of the Senju, also have the body of the Sage. Although, it seems that aspect of the younger son was stronger in the clan than in the Senju. The reason I say this is becasue the Uzamakis were known for living long lives, while in the Senju, Hashirama was the only one in his days suspected to have this aspect. Hashirama married an Uzamaki, Mito, and made her Kurama's jinchuuriki, as she was the ideal choice. It became only natural for Uzamakis to become Kurama's jinchuuriki.

Madara mentioned to opposing forces working together. He admits that he interprated it has the Uchiha and Senju bloodline as one.
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With the two bloodlines working as one, the person can achieve the true power of the SO6P. Although Madara still had Hashi's Wood Release, he still needed Senjutsu chakra to achieve his goal, becoming the new SO6P. By collecting the necessary Senju chakra, he now the body and eyes of the SO6P. With just the body and life force of the younger brother, he's able to absorb chakra from all of his limbs, and survived attacks from all of the Bijuu.
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The reason he was able to replace his arm with Zetsu's is because Zetsu is made of Senju chakra. Madara now has the body of the Sage, replacing his arm with an arm from a body that was made with from Senju chakra is only logical.
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Obito was Madara's descendant.
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Because of his ancestory and Senjutsu chakra from Zetsu, he was able to maintain the power of one Rinnegan, but not two. Madara could only awaken the Rinnegan shortly after his death. In other words, after he absorbed Hashirama's chakra. Madara's body and power grew accustomed to the power of the Sharingan's different transformations, whilst Obito's body was hastely prepared with a Zetsu clone. Obito only awakened the Mangekyō Sharingan. Thanks to the white Zetsu, he was able to live the night he awaken it. He was subconsciously using Kamui the entire time, and his face was covered with blood from overuse of it.
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Because Obito had a hastely made body of the sage, he could only handle one Rinnegan. Even when he became the Juubi's Jinchuriki he still only had the body of the Juubi. He didn't use any of the ninjutsu that Madaera is using with the Rinnegan. Obito never used any of the Tinnegan's ninjutsu becasue he couldn't. Only the Senju or Uzimaki can maintain it's power. If your not either, you would need a large amount of Senju chakra. Zetsu doesn't have all the Senju chakra needed, so the rinnegan's ninjutsu was out of the question for Obito.

Madara now possesses both the younger son's life force and the elder son's eyes. Together they create the power of the Sage hmself. Madara can now utilize the Senju and Uchiha's true power that can only be reached after they've come together in a single body. Right now, he only has the power of base SO6P, but after obsorbing the Juubi, he will be the same level of Juubi SO6P. He will be even stronger than Juubi Obito, who only had the Sage's dody and not ninjutsu.
 

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This theory will cover the fact that Madara is coming close to becoming the new SO6P, and will be able to harness all the jutsu that SO6P himself could use.

As we all know, the SO6P's sons were born with his power. One with his body, and the other with his eyes.
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The Sage's older son created the Uchiha, who posses the Sharingan. As we all know, once a sharingan has reached EMS, it then has Not all Uchihas have the potential to awaken it, let alone push EMS to such far levels. They have to be a direct descendant of the Elder Son.

The Sage's younger son created the Senju. The youngest son inherited the SO6P's life force and physical energy. Hashirama, a direct descendant of the younger son, posseses Wood Style and the younger son's body. Because he is a direct descendant, he holds great power and took over as head of the clan. If Hashirama has Wood Ninjutsu and is a direct descendant of the younger son, we can conclude that the younge son also had Wood Ninjutsu. Meaning that he could also absorb chakra.

The Uzamki clan, cousins of the Senju, also have the body of the Sage. Although, it seems that aspect of the younger son was stronger in the clan than in the Senju. The reason I say this is becasue the Uzamakis were known for living long lives, while in the Senju, Hashirama was the only one in his days suspected to have this aspect. Hashirama married an Uzamaki, Mito, and made her Kurama's jinchuuriki, as she was the ideal choice. It became only natural for Uzamakis to become Kurama's jinchuuriki.

Madara mentioned to opposing forces working together. He admits that he interprated it has the Uchiha and Senju bloodline as one.
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With the two bloodlines working as one, the person can achieve the true power of the SO6P. Although Madara still had Hashi's Wood Release, he still needed Senjutsu chakra to achieve his goal, becoming the new SO6P. By collecting the necessary Senju chakra, he now the body and eyes of the SO6P. With just the body and life force of the younger brother, he's able to absorb chakra from all of his limbs, and survived attacks from all of the Bijuu.
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The reason he was able to replace his arm with Zetsu's is because Zetsu is made of Senju chakra. Madara now has the body of the Sage, replacing his arm with an arm from a body that was made with from Senju chakra is only logical.
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Obito was Madara's descendant.
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Because of his ancestory and Senjutsu chakra from Zetsu, he was able to maintain the power of one Rinnegan, but not two. Madara could only awaken the Rinnegan shortly after his death. In other words, after he absorbed Hashirama's chakra. Madara's body and power grew accustomed to the power of the Sharingan's different transformations, whilst Obito's body was hastely prepared with a Zetsu clone. Obito only awakened the Mangekyō Sharingan. Thanks to the white Zetsu, he was able to live the night he awaken it. He was subconsciously using Kamui the entire time, and his face was covered with blood from overuse of it.
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Because Obito had a hastely made body of the sage, he could only handle one Rinnegan. Even when he became the Juubi's Jinchuriki he still only had the body of the Juubi. He didn't use any of the ninjutsu that Madaera is using with the Rinnegan. Obito never used any of the Tinnegan's ninjutsu becasue he couldn't. Only the Senju or Uzimaki can maintain it's power. If your not either, you would need a large amount of Senju chakra. Zetsu doesn't have all the Senju chakra needed, so the rinnegan's ninjutsu was out of the question for Obito.

Madara now possesses both the younger son's life force and the elder son's eyes. Together they create the power of the Sage hmself. Madara can now utilize the Senju and Uchiha's true power that can only be reached after they've come together in a single body. Right now, he only has the power of base SO6P, but after obsorbing the Juubi, he will be the same level of Juubi SO6P. He will be even stronger than Juubi Obito, who only had the Sage's dody and not ninjutsu.

Until Madara creates another Juubi or the Moon. He isn't Base form SO6P. Base SO6P has all his tools
 

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no Juubito > current madara.
 

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Great theory but thats if this is a theory
 

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Rikudo obito is On the Sage's level. Your telling me a scrub like madara who stole all his powers is on the level of the rikudo?

nah.

Rikudo obito > madara.
 

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I take it that you believe, So6P's had rinnegan before he became the Jubi's Jinchuuriki?

OT, You have some good points, So i'd say madara is close or at Rikudou's pre-jin power (If the sage had rinnegan, pre Jin).
 

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By the way, Obito "hastely made body of the sage" has nothing to do with why he only had one rinnegan.
Obito simply didn't want to lose his Eye own eye, If he did he would of lost kamui.
 

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Nice theory bro.

You should add of how Madara stated he can use the full power of the Rinnegan. From that, we can pick up that Madara can create the moon through Chibaku Tensie. He also has Creation of all things which he used to create Zetsu. Adding his knowledge on Rikudou, he is defiantly equal to the Sage or possibly stronger.

Oh and, Madara > Juubito due to Obito can get manipulated by Madara through the black rod as he did in the Manga amplified with Senjutsu Chakra.
 

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Nice theory bro.

You should add of how Madara stated he can use the full power of the Rinnegan. From that, we can pick up that Madara can create the moon through Chibaku Tensie. He also has Creation of all things which he used to create Zetsu. Adding his knowledge on Rikudou, he is defiantly equal to the Sage or possibly stronger.

Oh and, Madara > Juubito due to Obito can get manipulated by Madara through the black rod as he did in the Manga amplified with Senjutsu Chakra.

Madara can create a moon? LOL what?
 

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Woah woah woah, no, This theory is wrong and flawed



One. ALL UCHIHAS ARE DESCENDANTS OF THE ELDER SON, The Manga expressed it greatly

You said the elder son created the Uchiha, BUT then you go on to say they must be descendants of him.

You contradicted yourself :|Obito is just as an descendant to the elder just like madara.

Madara himself said Obito BECAME the sage of the six paths, what the heck are you getting this shit of obito not having ninjutsu??


THE only thing that may differ between obito and Madara is this

obito became Jin of a INCOMPLETE JUUBI

While Madara may become jin of a Complete juubi

that Don't make madara closer to the elder son, nor makes obito lesser of a descendant, it all goes to the juubi forms

Plus, Madara DON'T have the elder son's eye, show me a panel with madara having Spiral eyes
 

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Madara can create a moon? LOL what?

He stated he can use the full power of the Rinnegan.
He has Rikudou's Chakra through his Uchiha and Senju lineage, now increased wi SM.
He summoned a meteor which dwarfed a desert something Kabuto stated its Sage's power.

So yeah, he can create a moon since he stated he can use full power of Rinnegan.
 

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There is no way in H*ll that you read all of that already.

I only read the title, your explaination on why wouldn't matter because Madara can't do the things I said, which base SO6P can do.


But, I did read it after you posted and I still stand by my Opinion.

Problem?
 

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So now the Sage's feats are also madara's?

eeeeeh madara fans are seriously lacking.
 

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I take it that you believe, So6P's had rinnegan before he became the Jubi's Jinchuuriki?

OT, You have some good points, So i'd say madara is close or at Rikudou's pre-jin power (If the sage had rinnegan, pre Jin).

If he gained the Rinnegan after obtaining the Juubi, then his son wouldn't have been born with his eyes. When he gave up his power with the Juubi, he created the Juubi. This had to happen before his two sons were born or they both would have been born with Juubi chakra, but they weren't.

By the way, Obito "hastely made body of the sage" has nothing to do with why he only had one rinnegan.
Obito simply didn't want to lose his Eye own eye, If he did he would of lost kamui.

Obito couldn't use Kamui while he was Juubito in the first place, so he might have well lost his eyes, as didn't use either of them. Why? Becasue he couldn't. To use Kamui, he had to transport the Juubi plus himslef, and his body couldn't habdle that becasue it didn't follow all of the requirements.
 
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Madara just used preta on Hashirama, it's not body life energy ability.

The Obito theory just contradicted chapter 606 and 607.

With two clans in one, he has the sages power (rikudou Justus)

He didn't use them, because he didn't want too.

He implied that in the first appearance of his six path bodies.
 
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