Madara has better sensing than Kaguya?

[Ansatsuken]

Yes rinne sharingan following ABC logic should be superior to the MS in terms of vison, but it is only an assumption that the leap in vision clarity is enough to be able to distinguish KB from the original. Just because her rinne sharingan vision wasn't shown, doesn't mean she can't see with said dojutsu. The juubi used the eye just fine to see

Well that could be because the byakugan has better vision than the rinne sharingan

That's the thing, you can't know whether she has tried or not and it proved ineffective at finding any difference.

I just want to know how 9 tomoe sharingan vision field looks like, that's all.

Because that I assume she never used it to see.

 

[Rikodou Mode]

Madara's left eye allowed him to distinguish clones from the real body

Madara's right eye allowed him to make Susanoo clones

Itachi MS revolved around genjutsu, Sasuke around Ninjutsu and Madara around Susanoo

 

[Ansatsuken]

Madara's left eye allowed him to distinguish clones from the real body

Madara's right eye allowed him to make Susanoo clones

Itachi MS revolved around genjutsu, Sasuke around Ninjutsu and Madara around Susanoo

Where you get that? 5th Data Book?

 

[HashiraMadara SenjUchiha]

why the stubborness kishi told that Madara's visual prowess when he wan't to allows him to distinguish kage bushin

 

[Ansatsuken]

why the stubborness kishi told that Madara's visual prowess when he wan't to allows him to distinguish kage bushin

I think he only can distinguish Mokuton clones

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[HashiraMadara SenjUchiha]

I think he only can distinguish Mokuton clones

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he saw the kage bushin of naruto immidietley after joining the battle field! the only reason he was surprised in the panel was that he was not fighting or was not about too as he didn't care

 

[Rikodou Mode]

Where you get that? 5th Data Book?

Feats no other Uchiha has shown

 

[Seventh Sama]

Either madara guessed or the chakra in the shadow clone wasn't even.

 

[Heisenberg Wannabe]

I always thought Madara used his common sense to determine whether he is dealing with a bunshin or not. Since he is quite smart and experienced indivual, he is mostly right.

 

[davidou]

Kaguya had no sharingans at her birth.
She gained the power of the sharingan during her life , that may be why she is a bit weaker than Madara in sensing clones.

 

[shelke]

The only logical conclusion is EMS. Hear me out as I made this point ages ago on the forums, yet most Naruto wankers completely dismissed it as coincidence:

- Madara's EMS did allow him to see through Mokuton Bunshins as well. It cannot be a coincidence that he can tell K-Bs as well.
- Sharingan on every tier does give better insight. Each Tier is better than the last. I cannot see how the pinnacle of Uchiha Doujutsu wouldn't allow this.
- Nagato's and Itachi's example is a bit off. For one, Rinnegan was never Nagato's game to begin with. Madara, who was inexperienced with the Rinngean, as soon as he started using it, his techs put Nagato's to shame, and same is the case with Sasuke.
- Itachi is using 3 Tomoe Sharingan. So obviously, the insight wouldn't be that great.

This is definitely EMS, as Madara's Rinnegan was already fake. The only thing that makes sense is the Sharingan's tier and its power of insight. Otherwise, there is no other explanation, because he DID see through the Kage Bushin. People can deny it all they want.

P.s: Love the signature. Illiteracy and KG go hand in hand.

 

[V h o]

Aspull no jutsu.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Madara is just experienced, that's all.

Also, Black Zetsu says hi.

 

[Scryed]

My guess is that it may actually be an MS ability unique to him.

I don't think of him as actually sensing the clone but rather seing it with his eyes and knowing which is the clone and which isn't. Otherwise, Hashi wouldn't have successfully defeated him by stabbing him from behind since Madara would've sensed that.

 

[shelke]

My guess is that it may actually be an MS ability unique to him.

I don't think of him as actually sensing the clone but rather seing it with his eyes and knowing which is the clone and which isn't. Otherwise, Hashi wouldn't have successfully defeated him by stabbing him from behind since Madara would've sensed that.

His Sharingan was deactivated. Hashirama immediately struck afterwards.

 

[Lariatoo]

Yeah...
I personally believe that this "keen eye" of Madara was one of his MS abilities (since he have not shown Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, Kamui or any other unique ability) and he seems to be the only one able to do so.

 

[Lightbringer]

@OP

Your mistake is putting Kakashi on the same plateau as Naruto when it comes to Kagebushin.

Kagebushin is Naruto's signature jutsu. He's perfected it to the point that Byakugan Neji, 3T Sasuke, and even jonins like Asuma, Yamato and Kakashi can't distinguish the real Naruto from his clones. Hell Pein was killed because he was taken by surprise by one of Naruto's kagebushin. Kaguya not being able to distinguish a Rikudo Sage Mode Kagebushin, should not surprise anyone.

As far as Itachi detecting Kakshi's clone; it was after he place a genjutsu on it and realized it wasn't working.

With Pein, he seemed more annoyed that Kakashi was using a clone to try to fight him.

They're not in the same league at all.

I never put them on the same league. The point was that neither Pain nor Itachi knew about Kakashi's clone, even though it was less advanced than Naruto's.

Yet Madara was able to tell the difference between Naruto's Kage Bunshin.

 

[Dantee]

Sensing? Madara said it himself his eye powers meaning EMS allowed him to distinguish clones.

 

[Lightbringer]

Sensing? Madara said it himself his eye powers meaning EMS allowed him to distinguish clones.

I didn't know how to word it. lol

But I figured it would be something to do with the EMS.

 

[Dantee]

I didn't know how to word it. lol

But I figured it would be something to do with the EMS.

No you are right it's sensing but not chakra sensing.