Madara fodderized Hasi

[Guy Fawkes]

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Look at kurama eyes, look at madar's eye! Now look at who madara was staring at...i'll wait.

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Didn't Madara say he could see through wood clones?

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Then how come he didnt see through his wood clone? And dont say its because he didn't have sharingan active because

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Remember this was before he was stabbed and fooled by the wood clone, why would he deactivate his EMS? and if he didnt deactivate it, then how come he didnt see through Hashi clone? Because all he wanted was his cells, he could careless about winning a fight, he was preparing for a war that wouldn't happen for another couple decades

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What is hashi staring at? Not the moon because the shits not there BAKA!!!


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[Aya San]

No he didn't :|

hey fought a hard fight

 

[Sefirosu Masamune]

lol by this logic Madara would have already known he was going to lose to resort to using genjutsu in this way. so even by your logic madara knew he was gonna get pwned by hashirama before it happened.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

Yea sure, a fight that was meant, to be a distraction for genjutsu.

 

[Sefirosu Masamune]

or he was running out of charka.

Work on teh art of trolling

lol if im running out of chakra and my opponent may or may not then i would know there is a high possibility of me losing so what your saying actually is going along with what im talking about. you know because when you run out of chakra you cant use ninjutsu and you die 0.0

 

[Smd]

lol if im running out of chakra and my opponent may or may not then i would know there is a high possibility of me losing so what your saying actually is going along with what im talking about.

no it goes along with what i said.

But still the fact remands the op points out soild evidence that hashirama did not defeat madara there.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

no it goes along with what i said.

But still the fact remands the op points out soild evidence that hashirama did not defeat madara there.

Thank you, its cut clean evidence, sheesh, and i am the fanboy? Of Itachi maybe... of madara? I assure I am not. The evidence fits and speaks for it's self.

 

[hixa kuogame]

lol no argument...i guess im right, if not please prove me wrong? I'll wait....your rebuttal a little to late!

So what you're saying is hashirama placed a clone out there to fight madara the whole time, and madara saw through it?

 

[Sefirosu Masamune]

no it goes along with what i said.

But still the fact remands the op points out soild evidence that hashirama did not defeat madara there.

@bold: lol that makes no sense at all haha. if hes running out of chakra how does that mean he is not going to lose the fight?


actually hashirama defeated madara there he just did not kill him. and yes if your running low on chakra you are losing the fight as i said. no matter how you look at it madara lost. he had to take hashirama's cells to survive. if he was going to win he could have killed hashirama and took what he wanted. facts are facts. Hashirama defeated Madara. Madara 1 uped hashirama by surviving with his cells and gaining rinnegan. but the fact still remains hashirama stomped a fullpowered madara and a full powered kyuubi

 

[l3m0npl3dg3]

So wait what is being agreed upon is that madara threw the fight sound a bit farfetched but that is a way to look at it and evidence can be argued to support it but also oppose it

 

[Booker]

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Why didn't Madara just like pluck one of Hashirama's hairs or something?

 

[l3m0npl3dg3]

@bold: lol that makes no sense at all haha. if hes running out of chakra how does that mean he is not going to lose the fight?


actually hashirama defeated madara there he just did not kill him. and yes if your running low on chakra you are losing the fight as i said. no matter how you look at it madara lost. he had to take hashirama's cells to survive. if he was going to win he could have killed hashirama and took what he wanted. facts are facts. Hashirama defeated Madara. Madara 1 uped hashirama by surviving with his cells and gaining rinnegan. but the fact still remains hashirama stomped a fullpowered madara and a full powered kyuubi

This kinda makes sense also bound to the hashi tree or was that simply because of old age

 

[Guy Fawkes]

So what you're saying is hashirama placed a clone out there to fight madara the whole time, and madara saw through it?

No, I am saying that madara knew from fighting Hashi X amount of times his style and what to expect from him, so he devised a distraction by doing something very usual of him, attacking konoha. He knew that hashi would eventually use the clone so he staged a tough battle and going so sfar as to add the nine tail fox to his arsenal(who i think he used to reflect his jutsu of off the moon that is missing in the scan when hashi stands over him and looks at a moonless night sky). madara read the tablets remeber? He knew he needed senju DNA so he took it from his clone. Duhxd

 

[Sefirosu Masamune]

This kinda makes sense also bound to the hashi tree or was that simply because of old age

Exactly. Madara obtained hashirama's cells as a last ditch effort to survive not to gain power. he didnt get rinnegan until he was about to die.

 

[hixa kuogame]

No, I am saying that madara knew from fighting Hashi X amount of times his style and what to expect from him, so he devised a distraction by doing something very usual of him, attacking konoha. He knew that hashi would eventually use the clone so he staged a tough battle and going so sfar as to add the nine tail fox to his arsenal(who i think he used to reflect his jutsu of off the moon that is missing the scan when hashi stand over him and looks at a moonless night sky). he read the tablets remeber? He knew he needed senju DNA so he took it from his clone. Duhxd

But that's not...what...happened at all....
If anything that's a theory and not a very plausible one either
-_-

 

[l3m0npl3dg3]

No, I am saying that madara knew from fighting Hashi X amount of times his style and what to expect from him, so he devised a distraction by doing something very usual of him, attacking konoha. He knew that hashi would eventually use the clone so he staged a tough battle and going so sfar as to add the nine tail fox to his arsenal(who i think he used to reflect his jutsu of off the moon that is missing in the scan when hashi stands over him and looks at a moonless night sky). madara read the tablets remeber? He knew he needed senju DNA so he took it from his clone. Duhxd

But you can only read so much with a sharingan the rinnegan shows some of the text also he couldn't have possibly gathered all the info with jus the sharingan

 

[Guy Fawkes]

Exactly. Madara obtained hashirama's cells as a last ditch effort to survive not to gain power. he didnt get rinnegan until he was about to die.

Then why did madara say to kabuto the secrets to his body was on the tablet? A tablet he read before he had the body he was referring to? he didnt leave konoha untill he read them remember? Because after he read the tablet he knew that both clans came from the s06p and that he needed both to unlock rinnegan. duh

 

[Sefirosu Masamune]

Then why did madara say to kabuto the secrets to his body was on the tablet? A tablet he read before he had the body he was referring to? he didnt leave konoha untill he read them remeber? Because after he read the tablet he knew that both clans came from the s06p and that he needed both to unlock rinnegan. duh

This is true, im not saying he did not plan on getting hashirama's cells all along. but im commenting on the method he used to get them. he obtained the cells in defeat while faking his death. now if he could defeat hashirama why would he do it in this manner. why could he not kill him then take what he needed. and why did he have to bring kurama. fact is madara was defeated, but managed to get what he needed and survive. he did not plan on losing but he got pwned. simple as that

 

[Guy Fawkes]

But that's not...what...happened at all....
If anything that's a theory and not a very plausible one either
-_-

Did he not fight hashi? Did he not use the ninetails? Did he not fight hashi AFTER! Reading the stone tablet that told the story of the two clans that derived from the s06p? c'mon people Lol.

 

[RikudouMadara]

Hmm...it would seem so...but not definitive. If he used genjutsu on Hashirama...as I believe he did...then he did (I so dislike this word) fodderize him.