Madara didn't have sussano before EMS

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this is just a theory, don't flame

but i think madara awaken sussano when he fought the senju clan w the EMS, because we never saw him use it with the MS. So far in the series we've only seen sasuke and itachi use sussano naturally and they both could have the same powers cause their brothers and thats just a connection. but as for shisui and obito they both had 1 individual technique that wasn't related to susaano, which is why obito said it is rare for two eyes to awaken sussano. maybe izuna had amaterasu and madara had tsukiyomi. meaning madaras other eye and izunas other eye could have another power we don't know about. maybe madara's tsukiyomi is in both eyes and thats how he'd cast such a stronger tsukiyomi on the moon. and then when he got izunas eyes he got the amaterasu too and then madara got sussano. kinda makes sense.. madara sussano fluttered a lot differently when we first saw him use it against hashirama, it seemed like a new technique.

Also...... predicting, Obito = Shisui's older brother :eek:

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Summary: Madara had double tsukiyomi with MS, Izuna had double amaterasu with his MS

Double Tsukiyomi + Double Amaterasu = EMS Madara = PS Sussano?
 
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That is farfetched.Anyway who cares if he had susanoo or not.He has it now and is the strongest U_U
 

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That is farfetched.Anyway who cares if he had susanoo or not.He has it now and is the strongest U_U

thats true but i think its kinda interesting madara could've or has double tsukiyomi, but yes it does not matter it does not affect or effect the story.

Edo Hashirama > Edo Madara
 

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thats true but i think its kinda interesting madara could've or has double tsukiyomi, but yes it does not matter it does not affect or effect the story.

Edo Hashirama > Edo Madara

I see what you did there....................:snick:

lol dat sig :cool:
 

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huh??? hmmm no on obito being shisui's older brother, read sir derp obito's theory on obito's parents.
and did we see madara fight without EMS cause I cant remember, and if he did i'd guess that he didn't use susanoo cause hes not stupid enough to let himself go blind like sasuke. itachi used it cause he didn't really care if he went blind
 

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Then itachi was strong as fck :p he had tsukiyomi, amaterasu and susanno lol
 

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thats true but i think its kinda interesting madara could've or has double tsukiyomi, but yes it does not matter it does not affect or effect the story.

Edo Hashirama > Edo Madara

Sorry i disagree ET madara > hashirama

O.T: nice theory , maybe its true that obito n shisui are related
 

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I mean, it's not a terrible theory. But, just because we've never seen him use it doesn't mean he didn't have it. Madara is pretty exceptional, chances are he had access to Susano'o before EMS.

Also, Obito did state Susano'o is very rare, but who do you think told him about a technique as rare as Susano'o? If it's as rare as he says, ( which it is ), who else other than a Mangekyou Sharingan user could tell him about it.
 

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no way man, perfect susano'o is out of question if only izuna had susano'o furthermore susanoo is madara's thing like enton is sasuke's and rasengan naruto's
 
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that and or madara was smart enough to realize that he would go blind if he used it to much... and i still doubt tht madara has amatseru.... its one of the mose OP justus in naruto...and we have YET to even see him use it in his epic battles... if he had it i would suggest he would have used it against hashirama...
 

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that and or madara was smart enough to realize that he would go blind if he used it to much... and i still doubt tht madara has amatseru.... its one of the mose OP justus in naruto...and we have YET to even see him use it in his epic battles... if he had it i would suggest he would have used it against hashirama...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you need Amaterasu & Tsukiyomi to awaken Susano'o.

So, Madara would have Amaterasu.
 

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Sorry i disagree ET madara > hashirama

O.T: nice theory , maybe its true that obito n shisui are related

i think they're equals if we don't say hashirama is stronger. hashirama's wood style is on a way higher scale than madara's, madara even said so. the only thing madara has over hashirama is the rinnegan, and this time when they fight he does not have the kyuubi so it balances out some. and i don't know if hashi has jutsu that can directly be absorbed by the rinnegan, idk if u can absorb wood style. hashirama is undead and has unlimited chakra too. stronger wood style too.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you need Amaterasu & Tsukiyomi to awaken Susano'o.

So, Madara would have Amaterasu.

which is why he got it with izuna's eyes. we will see it soon though, we haven't seen madara truly fight, we will see all of his abilities fighting hashirama. PS vs Statue ahhh lets go!
 

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Well, that's some good, critical thinking. I just wish Kishimoto would clear everything up regarding the Sharingan, and all of it's evolution's. The moment we "know" exactly how they work, Kishimoto squats over, and shits all over everyone by directly contradicting things that were previously explained. It isn't a "plot hole", though. At any time, he can clear it up completely. A "plot hole" cannon exist in a series still in production, because the writer can just come up with someway to make it all fit.

Kamui
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Ameterasu
Tsukiyomi
Susano'o

Are those all the known abilities at this point, or are there more? We know that Itachi used the techniques with the opposite eye that his brother did. He was more inept with Tsukiyomi, and Sasuke was more inept with the black fire. It would stand to reason that there may be a couple more abilities waiting to be shown, followed by some explanation.
 

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i think they're equals if we don't say hashirama is stronger. hashirama's wood style is on a way higher scale than madara's, madara even said so. the only thing madara has over hashirama is the rinnegan, and this time when they fight he does not have the kyuubi so it balances out some. and i don't know if hashi has jutsu that can directly be absorbed by the rinnegan, idk if u can absorb wood style. hashirama is undead and has unlimited chakra too. stronger wood style too.

no, scale is same... yet they are equals because madara did learn use mokuton on same scale that hashirama himself but his body isn't same, in addition madara have sage's eyes.. and hashirama's sage body, while in sennin mode hashi's attacks far surpass madara's without kyuubi he is forced to use rinnegan life span shorting techniques to counter that level of attacks..

shinshuusenju easily tame all nine beast that should say something about having sage body "mantle"
 

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Well who cares now anyways he has the rinnegan and rinnegan>EMS
 
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