Madara crushes Kaguya with ease.

[Senju Bean]

lel kaguya > madara
amenominaka solos madara negg diff

All the Madaras can use Amenominaka since they all have the third eye

 

[Ansatsuken]

Madara had a potential to take on Kaguya

But at ease is to far, high diff at best.

 

[Senju Bean]

Madara had a potential to take on Kaguya

But at ease is to far, high diff at best.

A TRILLION Madaras!

That is galaxy level, easily.

 

[Shanks]

I change my stand Madara wins this High diff if Kaguya has no intel without Zetsu .

With Intel Kaguya Wins this Mid diff ..

 

[Senju Bean]

I change my stand Madara with Shinju wins in High diff if Kaguya has no intel without Zetsu .

With Intel Kaguya Wins this Mid diff ..

How? Trillions of Madaras combined has even more chakra than the fruit. Not even Prime Kaguya can take this.

 

[Shanks]

How? Trillions of Madaras combined has even more chakra than the fruit. Not even Prime Kaguya can take this.

I am saying with Intel .. But Kaguya has low intelligence if we look at it she always depends on Zetsu ..

 

[Zealotic]

All the Madaras can use Amenominaka since they all have the third eye

No I believe he has the ability to do it but he just doesn't know the technique It was only stated to be kaguya's ability

 

[LUMOS ULTIMATUM]

That would mean, they don't have equal abilities, which directly contradicts the databook.

Are you correct, or is the databook correct?

Are you trolling? How does my statement contradict the databook in any way? Limbo Madara=Madara in terms of strength and techniques but it is impossible for beings from the invisible world to project to another dimension because limbo is basically projecting from physical to the invisible world.

 

[Senju Bean]

I am saying with Intel .. But Kaguya has low intelligence if we look at it she always depends on Zetsu ..

Madara will just Bansho Tenen BZ and kill him with one of the Limbos.

Just like what pain did to that toad Naruto kept depending on.

 

[Senju Bean]

Are you trolling? How does my statement contradict the databook in any way? Limbo Madara=Madara in terms of strength and techniques but it is impossible for beings from the invisible world to project to another dimension because limbo is basically projecting from physical to the invisible world.

Then that would mean that Original Madara's Limbo and Limbo Madara's Limbo produces difference effects.


If they produce different real world effects for the same exact jutsu, then we can say that they are not truly equal in ability.

But they are truely equal in ability in every way, as stated by the databook.

 

[Hokage4]

Kaguya drops him and his clones in a endless dimension, no need to worry about the billion clones. But i like how you have to go far as saying she cant beat a billion juubi jin clones of madara. You know youre desperate then XD

 

[Senju Bean]

Kaguya drops him and his clones in a endless dimension, no need to worry about the billion clones. But i like how you have to go far as saying she cant beat a billion juubi jin clones of madara. You know youre desperate then XD

They all come back via their third eyes.

He can probably win with just 5 Madaras. But I'm just putting the final nail in the coffin by proving that Madara can make a billion of himself. So Kaguya has no chance at all.

 

[Shanks]

Then that would mean that Original Madara's Limbo and Limbo Madara's Limbo produces difference effects.


If they produce different real world effects for the same exact jutsu, then we can say that they are not truly equal in ability.

But they are truely equal in ability in every way, as stated by the databook.

Guess we will never knew how strong Madara will be with two Rinnegan ? I wish Kaguya was never introduced in first place ..

 

[Ansatsuken]

A TRILLION Madaras!

That is galaxy level, easily.

The rinnegan and especially a Limbo still had a limit although its not stated in DB

Just the actual Person can using Limbo clones, not Limbo clones, its different from Shadow clone.

If Limbo clone can make a limbo clone, how many hidden dimensions is exist or will this hidden dimensions overlapped each others.

And can you imagine what it will looks like?

 

[Senju Bean]

The rinnegan and especially a Limbo still had a limit although its not stated in DB

Just the actual Person can using Limbo clones, not Limbo clones, its different from Shadow clone.

If Limbo clone can make a limbo clone, how many hidden dimensions is exist or will this hidden dimensions overlapped each others.

And can you imagine what it will looks like?

I understand what you are saying. But the technicalities of the hidden dimensions don't matter. There could be an infinite of overlapping ones for that matter.

What's important is correct interpretation of the databook.


The databook says Madara and Limbo Madara have equal abilities.

What this means is that whatever Madara does, Limbo Madara can do the same exact thing no matter what. That is what the databook implies.

Now this means that Limbo Madara must be able to use Limbo because he has the same exact abilties as the original.

 

[LUMOS ULTIMATUM]

Then that would mean that Original Madara's Limbo and Limbo Madara's Limbo produces difference effects.


If they produce different real world effects for the same exact jutsu, then we can say that they are not truly equal in ability.

But they are truely equal in ability in every way, as stated by the databook.

Lol So you are saying it is possible to project a shadow from another shadow.

 

[Senju Bean]

Lol So you are saying it is possible to project a shadow from another shadow.

This is Kishi's fiction. If Kishi says it does, then it does.

And the databook did say Limbo Madara can do anything that the original can.

The databook didn't say that they are almost equal in ability or that they are virtually equal in ability, the databook simply said that they are equal in ability.

Equality is a very strong logical statement. And deviation from it would nullify and contradict it.

So we have to assume that they are equal so that we don't contradict the databook

 

[LUMOS ULTIMATUM]

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[Senju Bean]

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Look man, if Kishi says they are equal, then they are equal.


It's literally that simple

 

[Senju Bean]

Guess we will never knew how strong Madara will be with two Rinnegan ? I wish Kaguya was never introduced in first place ..

Exactly, thats why Kishi got rid of him, to leave us guessing at Madara's true strength. However, the databook implies he is infinite

Kinda like how sejuro hiko never shown his true strength in roroni kenshin. It's just too much compared to the main characters.