Madara and Uchiha logic

[JIRAIYA perv]

Pfft, if you think that love isnt a powerful thing then the three guys in your sig must be fodder U_U

hey they are moved by love AND also a sense of honor, responsibility and dignity but they don't go crazy on people because they lost a loved one, and don't come of as emotionally unstable .... i mean seriously ?? listen i swear i waned for the uchiha's to stay being bad ass but don't blame me .... blame kishi for making them a group operating on hormones (mainly).

 

[King-Panda]

hey they are moved by love AND also a sense of honor, responsibility and dignity but they don't go crazy on people because they lost a loved one, and don't come of as emotionally unstable .... i mean seriously ?? listen i swear i waned for the uchiha's to stay being bad ass but don't blame me .... blame kishi for making them a group operating on hormones (mainly).

ahah blame kishi...

 

[Great Sage of Uchiha]

I find Senju logic to be far more stupid. They believe THEY should dictate what is 'right and wrong'. You don't get anymore self-righteously pricky than this. It's not up to Senju to decide who is evil and who isn't. Ever thought about this point?

Dude i have only been waiting on you to make a thread about it.

 

[Great Sage of Uchiha]

hey they are moved by love AND also a sense of honor, responsibility and dignity but they don't go crazy on people because they lost a loved one, and don't come of as emotionally unstable .... i mean seriously ?? listen i swear i waned for the uchiha's to stay being bad ass but don't blame me .... blame kishi for making them a group operating on hormones (mainly).

dude they needed a weakness, they are OP AF and emotional unstableness is the perfect weakness for a uchiha.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

dude they needed a weakness, they are OP AF and emotional unstableness is the perfect weakness for a uchiha.

man but it's CHEESY, makes the story seem more childish and takes away their bad ass status, basically kishi ruined the uchiha (at least for me) in around three sentences ..... sorry i tried but i can't take them seriously anymore, these cry babies .....

 

[KingHashirama]

I find Senju logic to be far more stupid. They believe THEY should dictate what is 'right and wrong'. You don't get anymore self-righteously pricky than this. It's not up to Senju to decide who is evil and who isn't. Ever thought about this point?

Too bad, Hashirama = the Senju.. And Hashirama = giving everyone a chance.

Hashirama repped the Senju.. and apparently the senju decided to make a peace treaty and join the Uchiha.. and Uchiha and them became friends.

Tobirama classified the Uchiha in a specific way.

Don't bring in the whole "Senju way is dirty".. Cause the Senju way was Hashirama's way..... which was the better way.

man but it's CHEESY, makes the story seem more childish and takes away their bad ass status, basically kishi ruined the uchiha (at least for me) in around three sentences ..... sorry i tried but i can't take them seriously anymore, these cry babies .....

Everyone is run by pain. We pick up weapons due to pain. Not because we are all happy. And also, it was the fear that Uchiha MIGHT become like that.

 

[King-Panda]

dude they needed a weakness, they are OP AF and emotional unstableness is the perfect weakness for a uchiha.

Every human/ninja has that weakness, the ones that can deal with it are called strong/great people. And you think the Uchiha have no weakness? Mangekyou sharingan is a weakness, as they are tempted to kill their bestfriend. then lose eyesight, then are tempeted to get someone's else eye.... So they so many dirty stuff

 

[Draphsin]

You want to see me? Mate, this is anime! But if you want it this way, I'd like to see you in naruto position when he was younger. lol so what? That should make them even stronger, they are just weak. They should be careful with love then

Its an expression, get used to the english language. Naruto hasnt gone through nearly as much psychological torture as sasuke has. He was just neglected, never met his parents and still made friends like iruka(also its already stated that naruto is differnt than other people, he can overcome darkness). Sasuke is the youngest person we've seen whos experienced trauma to that degree(age 8 he witnessed his entire clan get slaughtered multiple times, please name me 1 shinobi who has witnessed trauma like that at such a young age) other than gaara, but gaara still turned out to be crazy and his problem was that his mother didnt love him (who he's never met) and his dad tried to kill him. But gaara still turned out to be a psychopath anyways, talk-no-jutsu just doesnt work on sasuke.

 

[KingHashirama]

Every human/ninja has that weakness, the ones that can deal with it are called strong/great people. And you think the Uchiha have no weakness? Mangekyou sharingan is a weakness, as they are tempted to kill their bestfriend. then lose eyesight, then are tempeted to get someone's else eye.... So they so many dirty stuff

killing you bestfriend is not how you gain your MS. o-o

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Everyone is run by pain. We pick up weapons due to pain. Not because we are all happy. And also, it was the fear that Uchiha MIGHT become like that.

but bro i already talked about this in a thread i made and ROCKPAIN said it again. loosing yourself and blaming the world for your loss is something that happens in many stories (by one character) and has nothing to do with UCHIHA blood. but here kishi deemed the uchiha as an overly sensitive clan (the whole thing) and sooo .... full of LOVE that they go crazy .... sorry but i can't take this thing seriously any more (an entire clan made of over emotions seriously ??) if that isn't CHEESY then i don't know what is .....

 

[King-Panda]

Its an expression, get used to the english language. Naruto hasnt gone through nearly as much psychological torture as sasuke has. He was just neglected, never met his parents and still made friends like iruka(also its already stated that naruto is differnt than other people, he can overcome darkness). Sasuke is the youngest person we've seen whos experienced trauma to that degree(age 8 he witnessed his entire clan get slaughtered multiple times, please name me 1 shinobi who has witnessed trauma like that at such a young age) other than gaara, but gaara still turned out to be a crazy and his problem was that his mother didnt love him (who he's never met) and his dad tried to kill him. But gaara still turned out to be a psychopath anyways, talk-no-jutsu just doesnt work on sasuke.

Other than Gaara? Why other than Gaara lol? He then found his path... And you say naruto was "just" neglected?? Being in the world with no one, everyone hates you because something that isn't your fault, and some people see you as weapon is just???

killing you bestfriend is not how you gain your MS. o-o

loool no?? Killing him (seeing him dying) is how you get MS

 

[Draphsin]

Other than Gaara? Why other than Gaara lol? He then found his path... And you say naruto was "just" neglected?? Being in the world with no one, everyone hates you because something that isn't your fault, and some people see you as weapon is just???

because gaara isnt a uchiha so he doesnt follow the path of hatred, the fact that uchiha are doomed to follow that path coupled with the trauma sasuke got was way more intrense than naruto's idea of "pain". And anyways, naruto hasnt seen blood and guts around the age of 8 and neither has gaara so sasuke already has more damage than those two because of that fact

 

[NarutoSageUzumaki]

I find Senju logic to be far more stupid. They believe THEY should dictate what is 'right and wrong'. You don't get anymore self-righteously pricky than this. It's not up to Senju to decide who is evil and who isn't. Ever thought about this point?

you associate tobirama with the Senjuu , while senjuu are a far greater clan that what you have read in a couple of Pages in the last chapter

they believed love and Compassion and forgiveness was the way - and you think it is more stupid than eternal revenge ? -

i bet if Sasuke does get his revenge on the village he will not stop - he will wish to kill the whole shinobi world for being so cruel - Like Madara

bashing the senjuu just cuz ur an Uchiha Sasuke fanboy does not prove your point

 

[King-Panda]

because gaara isnt a uchiha so he doesnt follow the path of hatred, the fact that uchiha are doomed to follow that path coupled with the trauma sasuke got was way more intrense than naruto's idea of "pain". And anyways, naruto hasnt seen blood and guts around the gae of 8 and neither has gaara so sasuke already has more damage than those two because of that fact

Gaara just recebtly foubd out that he mother loved him as he used to think she hated him. The only one that would.approach him and was close to him was his uncle,.which tried to kill him by defeanding himsef he killed him, then found out that it was the only that he used to talk to and the only one he had a bond with. What is like being alive, people are afraid of.you and avoid you, and your own father tries to kill.you many times and you gear that even your mother didn't like you?

Naruto's story has less blood in it, but still very sad. Nagato went evil example because it was the only.way he could.find peace, all.he wanted was peace, all.sasuke wabts is revenge!
Now.on my.phone, so ignore any grammar error

 

[KingHashirama]

but bro i already talked about this in a thread i made and ROCKPAIN said it again. loosing yourself and blaming the world for your loss is something that happens in many stories (by one character) and has nothing to do with UCHIHA blood. but here kishi deemed the uchiha as an overly sensitive clan (the whole thing) and sooo .... full of LOVE that they go crazy .... sorry but i can't take this thing seriously any more (an entire clan made of over emotions seriously ??) if that isn't CHEESY then i don't know what is .....

No you misunderstood what Tobirama meant. The thing is the power Uchiha get from the pain they suffer, is deadly. NOT that they are over emotional..

For example, Naruto's rage used to cause the 9-tails to come out.. Uchiha's rage/pain causes the sharingan to evolve, and also pure training of course.

 

[ThomasJeffersonwasasadist]

They get butt hurt like you wouldn't believe.

 

[Draphsin]

Gaara just recebtly foubd out that he mother loved him as he used to think she hated him. The only one that would.approach him and was close to him was his uncle,.which tried to kill him by defeanding himsef he killed him, then found out that it was the only that he used to talk to and the only one he had a bond with. What is like being alive, people are afraid of.you and avoid you, and your own father tries to kill.you many times and you gear that even your mother didn't like you?

Naruto's story has less blood in it, but still very sad. Nagato went evil example because it was the only.way he could.find peace, all.he wanted was peace, all.sasuke wabts is revenge!
Now.on my.phone, so ignore any grammar error

Im not saying that naruto or gaara's stories arent tragic, my point is that sasuke had a lot more psychological trauma than both of them because whether you're uchiha or not, witnessing your brother kill your parents has got to be one of the worst things to ever watch

 

[shelke]

you associate tobirama with the Senjuu , while senjuu are a far greater clan that what you have read in a couple of Pages in the last chapter

they believed love and Compassion and forgiveness was the way - and you think it is more stupid than eternal revenge ? -

i bet if Sasuke does get his revenge on the village he will not stop - he will wish to kill the whole shinobi world for being so cruel - Like Madara

bashing the senjuu just cuz ur an Uchiha Sasuke fanboy does not prove your point

You obviously have LITTLE to no understanding about how a story works. The only people who deem the senju as the clan filled to the brim with goodness are senju clan themselves or their pro-senju government. It's like me putting it out, that I am the greatest man in the world, and you are just a lowly prick. Does that make sense to you?

Who are the senju clan to be so judgmental? Do they have some kind of divine 'pulled out of the ass' rod to put the other clans in fixed roles? To Uchiha clan, Senju clan are nothing but hateful, domineering pricks, and I completely agree with them.

No man, it totally proves yours, when one clan's leader is hell-bent on driving them in the corner, hogging all the power when it should have been shared democracy, then putting them under surveillance sounds like a great fellow to me. Jolly good, this Tobirama chap was. And LOL @ your logic about me being a fan of Sasuke. I am not a fan of the character, but the characterization. This base is just filled with kids.

 

[shelke]

Dude i have only been waiting on you to make a thread about it.

Me? Nah. I don't make threads. I am just a poster.

Too bad, Hashirama = the Senju.. And Hashirama = giving everyone a chance.

Hashirama repped the Senju.. and apparently the senju decided to make a peace treaty and join the Uchiha.. and Uchiha and them became friends.

Tobirama classified the Uchiha in a specific way.

Don't bring in the whole "Senju way is dirty".. Cause the Senju way was Hashirama's way..... which was the better way.

I completely agree with you on Hashirama, but it appears he had no political savvy. The man was a moron in this department, despite his god-like ninja status. Also, I fully back my statement that all the Senju clan backed Tobirama. Otherwise, they would've stopped him like Uchiha had done in Madara's regard.

 

[King-Panda]

Im not saying that naruto or gaara's stories arent tragic, my point is that sasuke had a lot more psychological trauma than both of them because whether you're uchiha or not, witnessing your brother kill your parents has got to be one of the worst things to ever watch

Thats why I say he should be stronger emotionally, but anyway this is manga, someone had to go that way, not only sasuke thou