Madara and Obito

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How would Madara of trained Obito when he is struggling to survive? Could it be possible that Obito is not Obito but in fact Madara's soul in Obito. Like Madara using Obito's body as a vessel like Oro wanted Sasuke's body as a vessel?

I can't see how someone like Obito would be brainwashed to destroy the whole world because Rin died. He blames Kakashi but it's Obito's fault as well depending on when Rin died as he could of saved her as well.

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Obito has more reason than just Rin... If it was Madara's soul inside Obito's body then Madara couldn't been revived with Edo Tensei. Madara could train Obito over just telling him what do to.
 
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could have just used zetsu to teach him since he records everything

or maybe he actually can move around no problem just need gedo statue to live
 

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Doesn't this say it all? And btw, he basically says he does not blame Kakashi, why do most people ignore that though?

Also the plan is not to destroy the world and technically they are not the bad guys. Obito and Madara want good things to happen for everyone they are just doing bad things to achieve it. People also have trouble with understanding this concept too.

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The Edo Tensei requires the body of the target to be in the pure world. But Madara's body was not in the pure world but a world between this and the other.

SO how did Kabuto get DNA off Madara when he was in a different world?
 

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The Edo Tensei requires the body of the target to be in the pure world. But Madara's body was not in the pure world but a world between this and the other.

SO how did Kabuto get DNA off Madara when he was in a different world?

Dude he was not in a different world they were speaking metaphorically, and he was just underground....
 

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The Edo Tensei requires the body of the target to be in the pure world. But Madara's body was not in the pure world but a world between this and the other.

SO how did Kabuto get DNA off Madara when he was in a different world?

Madara told Obito that because half of Obito's body was gone, so half of him was gone, he was half dead.
 

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If Obito activated his Sharingan before he was about to die, wouldn't he have travelled through time like Kamui? And that's where Madara was hiding?

That is why Madara said we can't leave this place?
 

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How would Madara of trained Obito when he is struggling to survive? Could it be possible that Obito is not Obito but in fact Madara's soul in Obito. Like Madara using Obito's body as a vessel like Oro wanted Sasuke's body as a vessel?

I can't see how someone like Obito would be brainwashed to destroy the whole world because Rin died. He blames Kakashi but it's Obito's fault as well depending on when Rin died as he could of saved her as well.

Any thoughts?

can't be Madara's soul in Obito, because madara was brought back by edo tensei. if his soul was in obito's body, he couldnt be brought back
 

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If Obito activated his Sharingan before he was about to die, wouldn't he have travelled through time like Kamui? And that's where Madara was hiding?

That is why Madara said we can't leave this place?

He couldn't leave because his wounds would kill him before he reached the exit... -.-
 

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So confusing lol, Obito could of easily left the underground cave LOL. I doubt he would of stayed that long to be brainwashed.
 

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So confusing lol, Obito could of easily left the underground cave LOL. I doubt he would of stayed that long to be brainwashed.

Wounds like that can take years to heal... -.- The wounds was the reason he couldn't leave.
 

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He was pretty keen to leave, if you were in his shoes would you stay with a creep in a cave LOL!

Also the wording of this page ...

"...With our bodies. AND ANYWAY, neither you nor i are able to leave this place..."And then give up there are no exits here".

Not a grammar nazi or anything but Madara is saying we can't leave this place even if we were able to move? And then the line Give up there are no exits here? How did Madara save Obito if there were no exits? My opinion is that line referred to the world/time they are in and that even if he left the cave he wouldn't be able to leave that different world/time?
 

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He was pretty keen to leave, if you were in his shoes would you stay with a creep in a cave LOL!

Also the wording of this page ...

"...With our bodies. AND ANYWAY, neither you nor i are able to leave this place..."And then give up there are no exits here".

Not a grammar nazi or anything but Madara is saying we can't leave this place even if we were able to move? And then the line Give up there are no exits here? How did Madara save Obito if there were no exits? My opinion is that line referred to the world/time they are in and that even if he left the cave he wouldn't be able to leave that different world/time?

He said it was no exits because they couldn't really move far away anyways. They where underground, Obito just fell through the ground not into another world... -.-
 

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Well you could technically use Genjitsu to teach someone something, but I believe only Itachi's could manipulate time (at this point)

And who said anything about Madara training Obito? Obito's abilities at this point have all seemingly been his own.
 
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