madara and izuna can't use black flames??

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at the second panel tobirama says "I've never seen such kagetsuchi"


so MS users at that time don't know how to use blaze release??
 

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We don't even know if Madara knows, he could have easily killed the kages like that. Besides remember how Madara put his will into Zetsu (Black) When Itachi and Sasuke last fought Blacj Zetsu said he was just waiting to see the famous Amterasu stating Madara didn't have it or else Zetsu would know.
 

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We don't even know if Madara knows, he could have easily killed the kages like that. Besides remember how Madara put his will into Zetsu (Black) When Itachi and Sasuke last fought Blacj Zetsu said he was just waiting to see the famous Amterasu stating Madara didn't have it or else Zetsu would know.
Wow, good point. Didn't really think of that.
 

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Kagetsuchi is Sasuke's shape transformation he adds to Amatarasu that only he has been shown to use thus far.
 

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they were and still are under kishi

pen genjutsu, to where they think they dont cant use it


Once you gain MS it gives birth to capablities of amatersu and tsuykomi

the manga says you need both in order to unlock susanno
 

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We don't even know if Madara knows, he could have easily killed the kages like that. Besides remember how Madara put his will into Zetsu (Black) When Itachi and Sasuke last fought Blacj Zetsu said he was just waiting to see the famous Amterasu stating Madara didn't have it or else Zetsu would know.

He know of it but never seen it!!
 

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Neither of them have it, kagetsuchi is not ama/enton
 

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We don't even know if Madara knows, he could have easily killed the kages like that. Besides remember how Madara put his will into Zetsu (Black) When Itachi and Sasuke last fought Blacj Zetsu said he was just waiting to see the famous Amterasu stating Madara didn't have it or else Zetsu would know.

He could have just wanted to see Itachi's Amaterasu.​
 
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they were and still are under kishi

pen genjutsu, to where they think they dont cant use it


Once you gain MS it gives birth to capablities of amatersu and tsuykomi

the manga says you need both in order to unlock susanno


wrong, show me the page in the manga thats states that because Madara does not have Amataseru, therefore making your statement false
 

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they were and still are under kishi

pen genjutsu, to where they think they dont cant use it


Once you gain MS it gives birth to capablities of amatersu and tsuykomi

the manga says you need both in order to unlock susanno

i think sasuke said just the one who activated ms in both of his eye, can use susano,he hasn't mentioned anything about ama/tuskimiu

itachi said that susano was activated when he used amatrasu/tuskimiu ,that doesn't mean you should be able to use ama/tuskimiu to activate susano

manga hasn't said anything prove that susano's user can use ama/tuskimiu

madara fought hashirama/5 kages/alliance and he has never used amatrasu ,because simply he hasn't it
 
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