Madara and Hasirama equals? Madara's Trump Card Revealed!

ImNoOne

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I know another Madara's Trump Card, I'm ashamed of making so many but....

I'll make this one brief.

Ok everybody is going around thinking why is Madara taking Hasirama head on and keeping him from joining the fray against Juubito? I think I might have find the answer.

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Well, what if "HE" was not Obito, but Hashirama?!

Think about it, Madara and Hashirama fought for years and they were considered equals. Madara fought Hashirama continuously, he must have seen Hashirama's every step towards greater power. fought him between every single up grade. And they were always equals or close to it.

Now ask yourself, when did Hashirama gained Sage Mode? How many times might Madara fought him in SM? Where does his Sage Mode come from? Is it because of Mokuton? It makes sense doesn't it?

Well either way there is no reason to believe that Hasirama would have gained SM without Mokuton and genius Madara wouldn't. And as Madara did not enter SM in VOTE I assuming Hashirama's SM comes from his Mokuton.

But Madara has witnessed Hasirama entering Sage Mode so he knows how to do it, and he know has Mokuton.



So my theory is that Madara knew that Obito's vulnerability was Senjutso and he's Trump Card was precisely that information. This why he needed to make a move and keep Hasirama from fighting Obito in his SM. I think Madara's plan was to somehow take Hashirama from the picture, i.e. using Human Path to seal Hashirama's soul and cancel Edo Tensei and then move on to beat Obito with Sage Mode.

From there on it's pure speculation, maybe Madara was planing on some sort of body transfer technique like Orochimaru's or something.

Anyways I think Madara's mistake was to forget about Naruto's Sage Mode. If you think about it Hasirama's most powerful techniques come from his SM and Madara doesn't think possible for anyone besides himself to be as good as Hashirama(Take into consideration that Madara doesn't know about neither Kabuto's nor Jiraya's SM).

What do you think?
 

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you should read from a different website, has better translations. so the wording is a little bit different and when Madara says he, he is implying Obito.

EDIT- I do like your theory tho, on how hashirama has Senjutsu and he could take on Jubito!
 

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It's just a theory I have a great deal of chances of being wrong here. But it wouldn't be a complete asspull and considering the latest chapter it makes a little sense.
 

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yeah dude i gotchcu, i edited my last comment, but ill just say it again, i like your theory on hashirama's sage mode against Jubito and thats why madara is fighting him ATM.
 

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-Madara was referring to Obito. The whole thought referred to Obito, and instead of repeating Obito's name he mentioned him as he.

-Hashirama's Sage Mode probably comes from Shikottsurin. Where the slugs reside as we have already seen Snake Sage Mode and Toad Sage Mode and there are 3 special areas, so probably 3 Sage Modes.

-There is no reason to assume Madara has Sage Mode just because Hashirama has it. How did you come to the conclusion that Madara can obtain Sage Mode by watching Hashirama use it for one battle? (VoTE)
 

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you should read from a different website, has better translations. so the wording is a little bit different and when Madara says he, he is implying Obito.

EDIT- I do like your theory tho, on how hashirama has Senjutsu and he could take on Jubito!

Can you prove what you're saying? Because I actually read from *********** and I know enough to know that you are wrong there. And also that you can't prove it because they don't keep older chapters online anymore.

Eitherway "HE" could be Obito, but could also be anyone else. It wouldn't be the first time Kishi plays with the word HE in order to make us think he is talking about someone else.
 

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Obviously his Trump Card is Hashirama.. I mean why else is he stalling & waisting time with him unless he just wanna dance once again
 
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I disagree. I believe that Madara's Trump Card is Banbutsu Sōzō. Madara wants to be revived, via Gedō: Rinne Tensei and become the Jūbi's Jinchūriki more than anything. However, obviously the only person who can do that is Obito and he refuses to do such for more selfish reasons. So what to do? Madara wants the Jūbi to establish its final form.. When it is complete he shall use Banbutsu Sōzō to split the Jūbi and Obito, thus weakening Obito exponentially. Then, he shall take control of Obito and force him to revive him, then become the Jūbi's Jinchūriki. However, for his plan to work, he needs the Final Jūbi Formation to potentially destabilize Obito once again and/or have the most effective Mugen Tsūkuyomi possible. Why is he stalling Hashirama? One, Mokuton which can potentially delay the Jūbi's True Revival and Sennin Mōdō which can harm Obito and/or delay the Jūbi's Awakening. Nonetheless, excellent hypothesis.
 

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Sage mode, everyone seems to think this recently, I also am leaning towards it myself, it is possible.
 
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