madara and hashirama vs the akatsuki members

[BigGuns Reloaded]

If solo v.s deidara itachi kisame and negato are the greatest threats but only itachi and obito stand a real chance

2 vs all... I take the two due to diedara and pain being limited then again itachi may utilize each member's jutsu

Either way mad and hash win reserves too large and Jutsu too op

 

[Ahmed1993]

Madara and Hashirama are the strongest combination in NV. If both are edo no one can defeat them.

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[damon hunt]

If Six Paths of Pain couldn't defeat SM Naruto, who transformed into Kurama (up to 8 tails) , and then reverted back to Sage Mode. They aren't beating someone who can tank every move they use, smash through their defenses with ease, and someone who defeated Madara and Full Kurama.


Why don't you use your brain and not bother with the shitty analogies.

-Will a brick wall fall if you keep throwing small rocks at it? Obviously not. This match follows the same principle.



Totsuka wank? Not only does it have to pierce you to seal you, it has to actually get through their defenses first. Call me when it can pierce guys with defenses strong enough to tank Bijuu Dama with no damage.

Hashirama has clones for a reason, he has Sage Sensing for a reason. There is no distraction here nor will anyone be taken by surprise.

omg the only sole reason six path of pain couldnt defeat sm naruto is because nagato was already exhausted and they were protecting deva path so they faced naruto in turns this time it wont be the case if they alll fought naruto at the same time naruto woulda been pregnant now low dif

1 small rock = 100 small rocks by your logic good job buddy i can tell your a smart one

yes bro because hashirama is the only one in the series who can make clones plus there is over a million they can beat them other than totsuka you have amaterasu you have obito's kamui wrapping you have yata mirror you have the 6 paths of pain

you know what bro screw that dont use your brain use your dam eyes

 

[KidGamer65]

omg the only sole reason six path of pain couldnt defeat sm naruto is because nagato was already exhausted and they were protecting deva path so they faced naruto in turns this time it wont be the case if they alll fought naruto at the same time naruto woulda been pregnant now low dif

lmao, here we go with the inability to read? I clearly stated that he was unable to defeat Naruto in general, not just SM Naruto. Deva intervening didn't change the fact that they couldn't even handle 50% Kurama.

1 small rock = 100 small rocks by your logic good job buddy i can tell your a smart one

Did I say 1 small rock equals 100 small rocks? No you idiot. I said that 100 small rocks won't make a brick wall fall. Though I'm not surprised you couldn't understand such a basic analogy.

yes bro because hashirama is the only one in the series who can make clones plus there is over a million they can beat them other than totsuka you have amaterasu you have obito's kamui wrapping you have yata mirror you have the 6 paths of pain

None of the Akatsuki bar Itachi can make clones that are battle worthy, and if he splits his chakra through clones he can't use his MS techniques due to it costing too much chakra, not to mention Hashirama's clones would spank Itachi's clones with no effort.

Nothing you mentioned is getting past Susanoo or Hashirama's defenses and Kamui can't be used to warp if Madara is in Susanoo and if he can't even touch them or if they react by attacking him, forcing him to phase right through them.

you know what bro screw that dont use your brain use your dam eyes

You need to use both.

 

[Noni]

Those two together can solo anyone o-o

 

[Transcendence]

Sigh...


I really can't comprehend how this thread began with a Madara + Hashirama vs Akatsuki to Madara vs Hashirama with the Akatsuki out the equation.

Must I really?

Lets break this down so it isn't Madara + Hashirama.

Madara only against Obito:

Madara has the ability within him to control him; Obito can't attempt to block Madara as there isn't a bijuu nearby he can fuse with.

The rest:

If the main man Obito is under Madara's command, then they're rest are dust.

"Ohhhh Chibaku Tensei GG", for those who will post that, then you're completely and utterly stupid. I'm not even going to lower myself to you to even explain as to how that can be easily countered.

Hashirama vs Obito:

According to the manga, Hashirama cannot defeat MS Obito. Hashirama lacks reflexes such as Minato's, and every single attack from Hashirama is almost negated by Obito turning himself Intangible. The only chance Hashirama has by creating that forest that puts victims to sleep; even then he could hold his breathe (if he isn't panting or exhausted - which is extremely unlikely as he was able to control 7 bijuus, gedo and use MS without even breaking a sweat).

The rest:

If Hashirama can barely handle Obito, then adding the likes of Nagato and Itachi to this is just an overkill; thus why it was Madara + Hashirama to begin with, Madara being his back up and vice versa.

So... how far deep is Madara's *ahem* down your.---I'll stop.

Such bias is repulsing. Where in the manga does it say Hashirama can barely handle Obito? How does Obito counter Flower Tree World? Holding your breath is the worst excuse I've seen. It only works if you can fly, hence why it was plausible in any case for the Gokage, who had two people capable of assisting the others in flight. Hashirama on his own manhandles MS Obito. As does Madara.

 

[damon hunt]

lmao, here we go with the inability to read? I clearly stated that he was unable to defeat Naruto in general, not just SM Naruto. Deva intervening didn't change the fact that they couldn't even handle 50% Kurama.


Did I say 1 small rock equals 100 small rocks? No you idiot. I said that 100 small rocks won't make a brick wall fall. Though I'm not surprised you couldn't understand such a basic analogy.


None of the Akatsuki bar Itachi can make clones that are battle worthy, and if he splits his chakra through clones he can't use his MS techniques due to it costing too much chakra, not to mention Hashirama's clones would spank Itachi's clones with no effort.

Nothing you mentioned is getting past Susanoo or Hashirama's defenses and Kamui can't be used to warp if Madara is in Susanoo and if he can't even touch them or if they react by attacking him, forcing him to phase right through them.



You need to use both.

looool the only reason he couldn't beat naruto was circumstance deva intervening at the end after nearly all of them were done if he intervened at the beginning the decision would have been much different 6 paths of pain fully recharged can handle 50% kurama. deva path alone cant. oh sorry deva path alone with an exhausted nagato cant

the only sole idiot here is yourself because i am talking about you getting hurt not the bloody brick if i threw one rock at you wouldnt get hurt cuz it lacks power but if i threw a 100 at you would be different.though im not surprised you couldnt understand such a basic analogy.

noone of the akatsuki can make clones that are battle worthy but they dont need to be battle but to distract yeah maybe plus id love to see how usefull hashi would be if he is wrapped to kamui land =D

no no nothing gets passed them at all because madara can keep ps for as long as he wants right cuz he would out last all the members .

take your own advise

 

[RikudouMadara]

omg the only sole reason six path of pain couldnt defeat sm naruto is because nagato was already exhausted and they were protecting deva path so they faced naruto in turns this time it wont be the case if they alll fought naruto at the same time naruto woulda been pregnant now low dif

1 small rock = 100 small rocks by your logic good job buddy i can tell your a smart one

yes bro because hashirama is the only one in the series who can make clones plus there is over a million they can beat them other than totsuka you have amaterasu you have obito's kamui wrapping you have yata mirror you have the 6 paths of pain

you know what bro screw that dont use your brain use your dam eyes

Oh....no one told you? My apologies, but Kidgamer is Kishi....he writes the Manga.:yayy: I'm just messing. Although.. I agree with you. I see it as numbers meaning nothing though....quite radical. Imho a 7 yr old child could destroy an ant, but if you get a colony or two against one child, then clearly the ants will win, no?

 

[damon hunt]

So... how far deep is Madara's *ahem* down your.---I'll stop.

Such bias is repulsing. Where in the manga does it say Hashirama can barely handle Obito? How does Obito counter Flower Tree World? Holding your breath is the worst excuse I've seen. It only works if you can fly, hence why it was plausible in any case for the Gokage, who had two people capable of assisting the others in flight. Hashirama on his own manhandles MS Obito. As does Madara.

but bro what if obito wraps himself away to kamui land would save him no ?

 

[damon hunt]

Oh....no one told you? My apologies, but Kidgamer is Kishi....he writes the Manga.:yayy: I'm just messing. Although.. I agree with you. I see it as numbers meaning nothing though....quite radical. Imho a 7 yr old child could destroy an ant, but if you get a colony or two against one child, then clearly the ants will win, no?

well bro it depends on what type of ants your talking about plus come on you cant compare akatsuki to ants compared to hashi and madara

 

[KidGamer65]

ooool the only reason he couldn't beat naruto was circumstance deva intervening at the end after nearly all of them were done if he intervened at the beginning the decision would have been much different 6 paths of pain fully recharged can handle 50% kurama. deva path alone cant. oh sorry deva path alone with an exhausted nagato cant

lol, Pain's strongest move failed, adding any other path wouldn't have changed the outcome.

the only sole idiot here is yourself because i am talking about you getting hurt not the bloody brick if i threw one rock at you wouldnt get hurt cuz it lacks power but if i threw a 100 at you would be different.though im not surprised you couldnt understand such a basic analogy.

lmao......you can't be this f*cking daft. The point of the f*cking analogy is to show that Hashirama and Madara (Who are far more powerful than any of the Akastuki individually) aren't going to be defeated by multiple small rocks (Akatsuki) being tossed at them. That also works for defense as well. Throwing one rock at a wall won't break it nor will multiple of the same rock. I don't give a shit about your analogy cause it made no damn sense for this situation.

noone of the akatsuki can make clones that are battle worthy but they dont need to be battle but to distract yeah maybe plus id love to see how usefull hashi would be if he is wrapped to kamui land

-Not battle worthy=Them getting fodderized no difficulty in the crossfire. What can't hurt you can be ignored while you take out what can hurt you. Simple logic.

-Good thing clones, and forcing Obito to go ghost mode by attacking him shit on the notion of him ending up in Kamui land.

no no nothing gets passed them at all because madara can keep ps for as long as he wants right cuz he would out last all the members .

He doesn't need to outlast them when he can kill every single one in a few strikes of Perfect Susanoo's blade bar Obito.

 

[RikudouMadara]

well bro it depends on what type of ants your talking about plus come on you cant compare akatsuki to ants compared to hashi and madara

I wasn't.....I was only giving an example of numbers being prudent in a certain circumstance.

 

[damon hunt]

lol, Pain's strongest move failed, adding any other path wouldn't have changed the outcome.


lmao......you can't be this f*cking daft. The point of the f*cking analogy is to show that Hashirama and Madara (Who are far more powerful than any of the Akastuki individually) aren't going to be defeated by multiple small rocks (Akatsuki) being tossed at them. That also works for defense as well. Throwing one rock at a wall won't break it nor will multiple of the same rock. I don't give a shit about your analogy cause it made no damn sense for this situation.



-Not battle worthy=Them getting fodderized no difficulty in the crossfire. What can't hurt you can be ignored while you take out what can hurt you. Simple logic.

-Good thing clones, and forcing Obito to go ghost mode by attacking him shit on the notion of him ending up in Kamui land.


He doesn't need to outlast them when he can kill every single one in a few strikes of Perfect Susanoo's blade bar Obito.

loool oh really wouldnt it ? he wouldnt have needed to do that move if he had other paths with him and if you dont think it would have changed the outcome go your clearly not using your eyes nor are you using your brain.

lol but your comparing akatsuki to rocks while madara and hashi are walls really ?? all of them are human still madara and hashi can get 1 shot if they arent paying attention to certain things like obitos kamui and itachis sealing blade or any of sasoris poisons blades madara and hashi no matter how overpowered if they are they are still 2 human biengs who have 2 eyes each and they wont be able to follow all members movements it defies logic

getting fodderized no difficulty because they will sit down and have a picnic right plus if one of the clones sneaks up and stabs you up the ass from behind wouldnt that be hurtful bloody ignorant thats what you are

lol obito can travel in the speed of light so am pretty sure he can go up behind madara or hashi while they are distracted and wraps either of them or stabs them from behind

plus the susano he used in agasint 5 wouldnt last that long cuz of his chakra reserves plus you got path of pain to suck the energy out of any ninjutsu plus dont forget about the summons of pain

 

[damon hunt]

I wasn't.....I was only giving an example of numbers being prudent in a certain circumstance.

oh sorry i misinterpreted what you said lol i am glad you see it my way bro numbers can be prudent as you said :yeah:

 

[Awkward Linguist]

So... how far deep is Madara's *ahem* down your.---I'll stop.

Such bias is repulsing. Where in the manga does it say Hashirama can barely handle Obito? How does Obito counter Flower Tree World? Holding your breath is the worst excuse I've seen. It only works if you can fly, hence why it was plausible in any case for the Gokage, who had two people capable of assisting the others in flight. Hashirama on his own manhandles MS Obito. As does Madara.

Nice way to start a post. If you have a tendency to do that within your replies, then I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't as it'd do us a favor and save us later issues, like infractions and bans - something I'm not a fan of. Keep your posts clean of insults and debate, or just don't reply at all.

It doesn't need to be said in the manga, word by word "Hashirama can barely handle Obito"; such things are done in forums by those who read the manga and are willing to make comparisons. You're actually right, that was a pathetic excuse. Obito is able to teleport behind hashirama without hashirama noticing, and you can probably guess what happens from there. Obito whilst teleporting is untraceable. Like i stated before, Hashirama hasn't got anything to stop Obito when he's constantly going in and out of in/tangibility. Madara would probably be in the same situation against Obito as Hashirama would, if madara had not been able to instill his will in Obito.

but bro what if obito wraps himself away to kamui land would save him no ?

That's called being a coward, so no, he wouldn't do that.

 

[damon hunt]

Nice way to start a post. If you have a tendency to do that within your replies, then I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't as it'd do us a favor and save us later issues, like infractions and bans - something I'm not a fan of. Keep your posts clean of insults and debate, or just don't reply at all.

It doesn't need to be said in the manga, word by word "Hashirama can barely handle Obito"; such things are done in forums by those who read the manga and are willing to make comparisons. You're actually right, that was a pathetic excuse. Obito is able to teleport behind hashirama without hashirama noticing, and you can probably guess what happens from there. Obito whilst teleporting is untraceable. Like i stated before, Hashirama hasn't got anything to stop Obito when he's constantly going in and out of in/tangibility. Madara would probably be in the same situation against Obito as Hashirama would, if madara had not been able to instill his will in Obito.



That's called being a coward, so no, he wouldn't do that.

i agree with obito being untraceable bro it was said i believe in the manga that he is able to travel in the speed of light using kamui so i kinda agree with you on this one brah i dont see anything that hashi or madara can do to stop obito

 

[damon hunt]

That's called being a coward, so no, he wouldn't do that.

well he wouldn't have a choice its either he wraps himself to kamui or he will die because i don't see how he can survive that other than kamui

 

[Awkward Linguist]

i agree with obito being untraceable bro it was said i believe in the manga that he is able to travel in the speed of light using kamui so i kinda agree with you on this one brah i dont see anything that hashi or madara can do to stop obito

Haha buddy, he doesn't travel at the speed of light like Minato does. His teleportation takes a few seconds really, you know, those seconds when he's warping himself.

Edit: Read my other post regarding as to how he would possibly counter.

Editing my edit: Jesus... dat sig.. (._. )

 

[KidGamer65]

oool oh really wouldnt it ? he wouldnt have needed to do that move if he had other paths with him and if you dont think it would have changed the outcome go your clearly not using your eyes nor are you using your brain.

When you can tell me what the other Pain bodies would have done to Kurama then we can talk.

lol but your comparing akatsuki to rocks while madara and hashi are walls really ?? all of them are human still madara and hashi can get 1 shot if they arent paying attention to certain things like obitos kamui and itachis sealing blade or any of sasoris poisons blades madara and hashi no matter how overpowered if they are they are still 2 human biengs who have 2 eyes each and they wont be able to follow all members movements it defies logic

Walls>Rocks.

Hashirama and Madara>>>>>>>>>>Anyone in Akatsuki individually.

Do you understand or do I have to further explain?

Yeah, that's why Hashirama has clones, to take multiple guys on at once. You keep mentioning distractions and not paying attention even though there is no damn reason why he can't do so. So Sasori's poison Iron Sand is going to hit Madara in Susanoo? Its going to hit Hashirama when he has reacted to faster things (Bijuu Dama) and tanked worse? (Bijuu Dama) I'm not even taking you seriously at the moment.

getting fodderized no difficulty because they will sit down and have a picnic right plus if one of the clones sneaks up and stabs you up the ass from behind wouldnt that be hurtful bloody ignorant thats what you are

Irrelevant. No one ever said that they wouldn't do anything, though this a typical phrase people love to use when the character they support gets thrashed in a match up.

lol obito can travel in the speed of light so am pretty sure he can go up behind madara or hashi while they are distracted and wraps either of them or stabs them from behind

Cause they'll stand there while Obito touches them and warps them? Cause Obito can touch Madara through Susanoo? Cause Hashirama doesn't have Sage Sensing? Just stop. You sound dumb.

plus the susano he used in agasint 5 wouldnt last that long cuz of his chakra reserves plus you got path of pain to suck the energy out of any ninjutsu plus dont forget about the summons of pain

It last long enough against Hashirama so it'll last long enough against people Madara can take out in a few attacks.

-Preta can't absorb the shockwave that PS creates when it swings its blade that was enough to cut 2 Mountains. So it dies.

-All summonings equal fodder for Perfect Susanoo.

 

[damon hunt]

When you can tell me what the other Pain bodies would have done to Kurama then we can talk.


Walls>Rocks.

Hashirama and Madara>>>>>>>>>>Anyone in Akatsuki individually.

Do you understand or do I have to further explain?

Yeah, that's why Hashirama has clones, to take multiple guys on at once. You keep mentioning distractions and not paying attention even though there is no damn reason why he can't do so. So Sasori's poison Iron Sand is going to hit Madara in Susanoo? Its going to hit Hashirama when he has reacted to faster things (Bijuu Dama) and tanked worse? (Bijuu Dama) I'm not even taking you seriously at the moment.


Irrelevant. No one ever said that they wouldn't do anything, though this a typical phrase people love to use when the character they support gets thrashed in a match up.


Cause they'll stand there while Obito touches them and warps them? Cause Obito can touch Madara through Susanoo? Cause Hashirama doesn't have Sage Sensing? Just stop. You sound dumb.



It last long enough against Hashirama so it'll last long enough against people Madara can take out in a few attacks.

-Preta can't absorb the shockwave that PS creates when it swings its blade that was enough to cut 2 Mountains. So it dies.

-All summoning's equal fodder for Perfect Susanoo.

wouldnt have even got that far if it had been the other paths with him once you can understand that youll feel much better

hashirama and madara >>>>>>>> anyone in akatsuki individually yes but individually all of them together would be a much different outcome 2 bullies can beat 12 nerds individually but if these 12 nerds attack together 2 bullies are screwed i am trying to make you understand but the only thing that resembles the bloody wall is your bloody head mate

the only reason hashi was able to react to bijuu dama was because he had all his focus on that when he is facing all the akatsuki members plus the insensible obito and all the other its a different outcome no matter how hard you try to say its not its just pure logic

it is relevant cuz that's exactly what could happen like what happened to madara in his fight with hashi

plus when obito touchs them it would take 2-3 seconds and they would be done they react that will be enough distraction for some other members to come and hit like i said they will be outnumbered and overwhelmed akatsuki is full of members that have experience and aren't the fodders you think they are

plus all the summoning's wouldnt be made to destroy ps it would be made to distract for the preta path to get close and absorb ps's energy hell even obito can travel inside the to inside the ps to wrap madara that would be enough of a distraction for preta path to get that close .