Madara and Hashirama (VotE) vs Akatsuki

[KidGamer65]

Another thing, couldn't Obito make everything except his lungs and mouth tangible, therefore breathing in the kamui dimension and grabbing people in the real dimension?

Obito has shown the ability to only warp certain parts of his body.

He can, but when he wants to touch someone to warp them his whole body needs to be in the same dimension as his target, hence everyone saying he needs to become completely tangible when warping himself or someone.

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So far this is an argument of whoever does their ultimate attack first, to end the match.

Not really. Cause nothing the Akatsuki has can finish off Madara and Hashirama whenever the latter party feels like it. Only Hashirama and Madara have that luxury.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

He can, but when he wants to touch someone to warp them his whole body needs to be in the same dimension as his target, hence everyone saying he needs to become completely tangible when warping himself or someone.

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Not really. Cause nothing the Akatsuki has can finish off Madara and Hashirama whenever the latter party feels like it. Only Hashirama and Madara have that luxury.

That would be wrong.

C4
GSB
Kamui

Are all attacks that can defeat them. So yes it will be an argument for who ever pulls what first.

 

[KidGamer65]

That would be wrong.

C4
GSB
Kamui

Are all attacks that can defeat them. So yes it will be an argument for who ever pulls what first.

C4 travels through air just like Acid Mist. Susanoo blocked the Acid Mist as Sasuke wasn't killed by it. It will do the same to C4's nano bombs.

Mokuton tanks GSB effortlessly.

Obito isn't Kamui'ing Madara through Susanoo, he isn't finding the real Hashirama in the midst of his Bunshin nor is he getting him through Susanoo if Madara decides to protect him with it.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

C4 travels through air just like Acid Mist. Susanoo blocked the Acid Mist as Sasuke wasn't killed by it. It will do the same to C4's nano bombs.

Mokuton tanks GSB effortlessly.

Obito isn't Kamui'ing Madara through Susanoo, he isn't finding the real Hashirama in the midst of his Bunshin nor is he getting him through Susanoo if Madara decides to protect him with it.

I don't know why you would compare mist to something at cellular size. C4 wouldn't be visible at all it will pass by like a breeze. Acid Mist still bypass Sasuke, which was shown that Sasuke's arm was slowly burning for staying in the mist too long.

We already establish that GSB will not absorb Wood Release but to say that it tanks it without it breaking from it's force is unreasonable. Madara is screwed though.

It doesn't matter if Madara's Sassanoo is up Kamui phases through it and he captures him. Even Danzo knew that it was possible to get inside Sassanoo:

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[KidGamer65]

I don't know why you would compare mist to something at cellular size. C4 wouldn't be visible at all it will pass by like a breeze. Acid Mist still bypass Sasuke, which was shown that Sasuke's arm was slowly burning for staying in the mist too long.

Since when did size matter? Oh wait, it doesn't. I also hope you know Sharingan can see the chakra of C4's nano bombs right?

You're only half right there.I'll just quote my post from another guy who thinks Acid Mist could get past Susanoo regularly.

Sasuke saw them with Sharingan. Read the manga.

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Susanoo blocked Acid Mist from vaporizing Sasuke's face and body. C4 travels through air just like mist travels through air but the mist was blocked...so will c4.

Inb4 you say it did..

Susanoo blocked the mist completely here as you see Susanoo is melting but Sasuke isn't. IN the last panel he tries to go up a level but collapses.

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That is when the mist got through, but after that, his skin wasn't burning anymore.

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Do the math.

Madara would see the color of the Nano Bombs and coat himself, Kyuubi and Hashirama inside Susanoo. Its not like C4 will even reach Hashirama on a structure that towers over Mountains anyway.

We already establish that GSB will not absorb Wood Release but to say that it tanks it without it breaking from it's force is unreasonable. Madara is screwed though.

No. To say that the same Mokuton that blocked a Bijuu Dama's explosion will break due to GSB is unreasonable. Madara isn't screwed cause Hashirama can save him. This is a team effort.

It doesn't matter if Madara's Sassanoo is up Kamui phases through it and he captures him. Even Danzo knew that it was possible to get inside Sassanoo:

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Wrong. Again.

-That's Sasuke's V3 Susanoo. Not Madara's Perfect Susanoo. That alone renders your whole point invalid.

-Danzo ripped a hole in the back of Sasuke's Susanoo, Obito can't do that so even if this tactic was valid on Perfect Susanoo, Obito would only be able to phase into it and remain in ghost mode. If the user doesn't allow it you can't enter his Susanoo.

Sasuke had to shift the chakra of his Susanoo to let Zetsu in.

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[Brother Numpsay]

Since when did size matter? Oh wait, it doesn't. I also hope you know Sharingan can see the chakra of C4's nano bombs right?

Madara is alerted from there but once it breezes his direction what can he do. Hashi is screwed. Size does matter if something is going to pass through. Oxygen can bypass Sassano. Sassano has its limits no need to created the "No Limit" fallacy

You're only half right there.I'll just quote my post from another guy who thinks Acid Mist could get past Susanoo regularly.

-Is correct
Mist was temporally blocked Mist is not at cellular level. Yes size matter
Sassno was melting period. Sasuke needed to get out of the range of the jutsu. period.
Mist went through by melting Sassno. Deidara's bombs does work that way. It bypasses by being microscopic which leaks through whatever Hashi or Madara has.

Madara would see the color of the Nano Bombs and coat himself, Kyuubi and Hashirama inside Susanoo. Its not like C4 will even reach Hashirama on a structure that towers over Mountains anyway.

Madara can only coat 1 being at a time So he has to choose either him, Kyuubi, Or Hashi. Susanoo is not blocking cellular attacks regardless. Deidara's expertise in his bombs. Knowing the exact time/velocity to attack is his profession. Making the cellular attack breeze upward shouldn't be debatable if he could altered the velocity.

No. To say that the same Mokuton that blocked a Bijuu Dama's explosion will break due to GSB is unreasonable. Madara isn't screwed cause Hashirama can save him. This is a team effort.

Mokuton block a TBB before the impact of the explosion so yes the force of water release can still break Mokuton, in general. This will also be easier when you have 15 others intellectual/powerful shinobi's in team

Wrong. Again.

-That's Sasuke's V3 Susanoo. Not Madara's Perfect Susanoo. That alone renders your whole point invalid.


-Danzo ripped a hole in the back of Sasuke's Susanoo, Obito can't do that so even if this tactic was valid on Perfect Susanoo, Obito would only be able to phase into it and remain in ghost mode. If the user doesn't allow it you can't enter his Susanoo.

Sasuke had to shift the chakra of his Susanoo to let Zetsu in.

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-No it doesn't that show proof that the opponent can enter Sassano. I can post Gaara alternating his sand inside Madara's too. My whole point is that there is space to grab Madara inside Sassano. Kamui does the trick
-That example was to show that there is space for a second person to enter Sassno. Obito's method will be different then Danzo. Just bypass the Sassano like this:

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Then boom Madara is vulnerable

I already show 2 methods doing it by force

 

[KidGamer65]

Madara is alerted from there but once it breezes his direction what can he do. Hashi is screwed. Size does matter if something is going to pass through. Oxygen can bypass Sassano. Sassano has its limits no need to created the "No Limit" fallacy

And where did I say Oxygen couldn't get past Susanoo? Oh wait, never. Oxygen is a gas just like Acid Mist was but guess what? Acid Mist was blocked out while the oxygen still got to Sasuke allowing him to breathe, and that was with a Ribcage Susanoo, a Perfect Susanoo will effortlessly replicate the same feat, you saying that the user being able to breathe is a rebuttal to my claim isn't going to work here.

C4 is blocked.

Do you even know what the No Limits Fallacy is? Apparently not.

-Is correct
Mist was temporally blocked Mist is not at cellular level. Yes size matter
Sassno was melting period. Sasuke needed to get out of the range of the jutsu. period.
Mist went through by melting Sassno. Deidara's bombs does work that way. It bypasses by being microscopic which leaks through whatever Hashi or Madara has.

Again, size doesn't matter. That's just a baseless assumption on your part.

-Oxygen is a gas, Acid Mist is a gas. C4 Nano Bombs are just really small bombs. Oxygen was let through while the mist was kept out. If Susanoo can block gasses it will effortlessly block nano bombs.

-The Mist only got past Susanoo when Sasuke tried to jump up a level and failed, the mist didn't burn him at all after that so your point is invalid.

-Susanoo can block intangible gases but can't block micro bombs? Are you kidding me? Lmfao.

Madara can only coat 1 being at a time So he has to choose either him, Kyuubi, Or Hashi. Susanoo is not blocking cellular attacks regardless. Deidara's expertise in his bombs. Knowing the exact time/velocity to attack is his profession. Making the cellular attack breeze upward shouldn't be debatable if he could altered the velocity.

Another baseless assumption? Proof Madara can only coat the Kyuubi in Susanoo? Oh wait you don't have any. He coats all 3 with them and they tank it. Madara's Susanoo coated him and the Kyuubi, that's more than 1 being and that renders your assumption false.

Mokuton block a TBB before the impact of the explosion so yes the force of water release can still break Mokuton, in general. This will also be easier when you have 15 others intellectual/powerful shinobi's in team

Mokuton blocked the explosion.

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GSB is tanked and saying otherwise is laughable.

-No it doesn't that show proof that the opponent can enter Sassano. I can post Gaara alternating his sand inside Madara's too. My whole point is that there is space to grab Madara inside Sassano. Kamui does the trick
-That example was to show that there is space for a second person to enter Sassno. Obito's method will be different then Danzo. Just bypass the Sassano like this:

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Then boom Madara is vulnerable

I already show 2 methods doing it by force

When are you going to stop taking weaknesses from lower versions of Susanoo and applying them to Perfect Susanoo? Flawed debating much?

-Madara's V2 Susanoo is completely different from his Perfect Susanoo. Point invalid.
-Madara's V2 Susanoo had gaps at the bottom, PS doesn't.
-Not to mention sand grabbing at Madara's feet while in Susanoo isn't proof another person can enter it. Not. At. All.

There is no space for another person to enter Susanoo, Period. If Obito goes in while intangible he has to stay intangible as there is simply no room for him.

Don't even know where this nonsense about Susanoo having room for two came from. Danzo broke it open and made a hole, of course if there is a wide gap created in Susanoo you can go and hit the person inside. Rip a hole in someone's armor and they will be able to be hit. Does that mean that the armor can fit two people? Nope.

Not to mention you completely disregarded the fact that Sasuke had to shift Susanoo's chakra to let Zetsu in, meaning there is no room.

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[AGoodBoy]

Why do people keep saying GSB. It only works under water. Why would madara/hashi stand under water when they can just sit 150 feet above it...

 

[Brother Numpsay]

And where did I say Oxygen couldn't get past Susanoo? Oh wait, never. Oxygen is a gas just like Acid Mist was but guess what? Acid Mist was blocked out while the oxygen still got to Sasuke allowing him to breathe, and that was with a Ribcage Susanoo, a Perfect Susanoo will effortlessly replicate the same feat, you saying that the user being able to breathe is a rebuttal to my claim isn't going to work here.

Never put words in your mouth. That was my claim about Oxygen bypassing Susanoo. There is no need to go science mode to support my claim since Acid mist is clearly more denser and larger then Oxygen molecular. So one will be easier to go through then the other. So my claim still stands Acid Mist<Cellular Bombs<Oxygen molecule

C4 is blocked.

C4 leaks through Sassano

Do you even know what the No Limits Fallacy is? Apparently not.

Your claim is Sassano is un bypass-able so I mention this fallacy.

Again, size doesn't matter. That's just a baseless assumption on your part.

You says its baseless by comparing Heavy Acid Mist to something a cellular so no its not baseless to make a claim that nanos can go through an object like Sassanoo

Oxygen is a gas, Acid Mist is a gas. C4 Nano Bombs are just really small bombs. Oxygen was let through while the mist was kept out. If Susanoo can block gasses it will effortlessly block nano bombs.

Again you are comparing two gases with different priorities in size and density. C4 arent jsut small bombs they are literally the size as a cell.

The Mist only got past Susanoo when Sasuke tried to jump up a level and failed, the mist didn't burn him at all after that so your point is invalid.

Never seen Sasuke trying to level up but I do see Sasuke in pain holding up Sassanoo. I also see him gaining his chakra back so he was able to use Sassano to break him out of the Mist

Susanoo can block intangible gases but can't block micro bombs? Are you kidding me? Lmfao.

Acid Mist is larger, visable, and more dense then cells so yes. I don't know why your laughing doing the comparison. Should I give you a molecule chart or something for you to understand?

Another baseless assumption? Proof Madara can only coat the Kyuubi in Susanoo? Oh wait you don't have any. He coats all 3 with them and they tank it. Madara's Susanoo coated him and the Kyuubi, that's more than 1 being and that renders your assumption false.

Madara was part with the Kyuubi so you are still wrong he can't make more then 1 sheet of cloak with Sassanoo

Mokuton blocked the explosion.

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GSB is tanked and saying otherwise is laughable.

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Then Hashi cover himself from the aftershock of the blast

When are you going to stop taking weaknesses from lower versions of Susanoo and applying them to Perfect Susanoo? Flawed debating much?

-Madara's V2 Susanoo is completely different from his Perfect Susanoo. Point invalid.
-Madara's V2 Susanoo had gaps at the bottom, PS doesn't.
-Not to mention sand grabbing at Madara's feet while in Susanoo isn't proof another person can enter it. Not. At. All.

Again none of this means nothing to intangibility.
DOES TBB have any wholes?:[/b]

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That does not give a reason for Kamui to not phase through

There is no space for another person to enter Susanoo, Period. If Obito goes in while intangible he has to stay intangible as there is simply no room for him.

Look at Madara's Stationary spot in Sassanoo in PS.

Don't even know where this nonsense about Susanoo having room for two came from. Danzo broke it open and made a hole, of course if there is a wide gap created in Susanoo you can go and hit the person inside. Rip a hole in someone's armor and they will be able to be hit. Does that mean that the armor can fit two people? Nope.

So you can hit someone with space to enter but no room to fit another person? How is there space to hit them in the first place with no room?

Not to mention you completely disregarded the fact that Sasuke had to shift Susanoo's chakra to let Zetsu in, meaning there is no room.

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I don't see any shift I just see him picking him up. Nothing to do with stopping him from phasing through.

Why do people keep saying GSB. It only works under water. Why would madara/hashi stand under water when they can just sit 150 feet above it...

LOL WHAT? NO

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[Invsblphntm]

Obito solos Hashirama.


Nagato solos EMS Madara.



And Itachi can solo both.

Spoiler

that was one was a joke

 

[KidGamer65]

Never put words in your mouth. That was my claim about Oxygen bypassing Susanoo. There is no need to go science mode to support my claim since Acid mist is clearly more denser and larger then Oxygen molecular. So one will be easier to go through then the other. So my claim still stands Acid Mist<Cellular Bombs<Oxygen molecule

Again. It doesn't matter. Susanoo has already displayed the ability to block gas, which is intangible yet it can't block C4 nano bombs which aren't intangible? Nope.

C4 leaks through Sassano

With what proof? Oh wait. None.

Your claim is Sassano is un bypass-able so I mention this fallacy.

Never even said this. Stop putting words in my mouth.

You says its baseless by comparing Heavy Acid Mist to something a cellular so no its not baseless to make a claim that nanos can go through an object like Sassanoo

Heavy? Since when was an intangible mist heavy? Now you aren't making sense. If Susanoo can block an intangible gas then it can block nano bombs that aren't intangible. Period.

Again you are comparing two gases with different priorities in size and density. C4 arent jsut small bombs they are literally the size as a cell.

Stop mentioning size here cause it really doesn't matter. The fact is.

-Susanoo can block intangible gases.
-So it can block something that isn't intangible, no matter how small it is.

Never seen Sasuke trying to level up but I do see Sasuke in pain holding up Sassanoo. I also see him gaining his chakra back so he was able to use Sassano to break him out of the Mist

Why are you debating with me if you are going to ignore manga fact, and not look at the panels correctly.
He clearly tried to level up in the last panel and failed.

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That's when the mist came in.

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It didn't burn him again afterwards. Because the mist was being blocked out.

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There is no reason why Nano Bombs are going to get through when an intangible gas couldn't. That's like saying you could fit a quarter through a small hole but you can't fit a penny. It makes no sense whatsoever.

Acid Mist is larger, visable, and more dense then cells so yes. I don't know why your laughing doing the comparison. Should I give you a molecule chart or something for you to understand?

Are you still rambling on about this size nonsense? Gas is intangible. Nano Bombs aren't.

Susanoo blocked an intangible gas so it will block C4 nano bombs, as they aren't intangible.

Madara was part with the Kyuubi so you are still wrong he can't make more then 1 sheet of cloak with Sassanoo

Baseless assumption is baseless. Madara isn't part of the Kyuubi, so you are wrong. Bring proof or this point will be ignored.

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Then Hashi cover himself from the aftershock of the blast

Now you're trying to contest manga fact? I already posted a scan of his dome protecting him from the explosion. That dome will tank GSB as Bijuu Dama>>>>GSB. End of story.

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Again none of this means nothing to intangibility.
DOES TBB have any wholes?:[/b]

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That does not give a reason for Kamui to not phase through

No one ever said Obito can't phase through it. He just has to remain intangible while he's in it and can't become solid. He can't become solid in Susanoo for the same reason he can't become solid in TBB. Cause there is no room.

Look at Madara's Stationary spot in Sassanoo in PS.



So you can hit someone with space to enter but no room to fit another person? How is there space to hit them in the first place with no room?

:sy: Are you actually saying that if you make a hole in someone's armor? Cause if you are, then just log off now. A Hole in Susanoo=/=Another person being able to fit inside the Susanoo.

I don't see any shift I just see him picking him up. Nothing to do with stopping him from phasing through.

Are you blind?

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His Susanoo's chakra is solid here.

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Its not solid over here.
The fact he had to shift it proves that he can't enter Susanoo, become solid, and warp Madara away.

Where did I say he couldn't phase through? He just can't become solid while phasing through Susanoo and if he can't become solid he can't warp Madara.

 

[Booker]

Again. It doesn't matter. Susanoo has already displayed the ability to block gas, which is intangible yet it can't block C4 nano bombs which aren't intangible? Nope.



With what proof? Oh wait. None.



Never even said this. Stop putting words in my mouth.


Heavy? Since when was an intangible mist heavy? Now you aren't making sense. If Susanoo can block an intangible gas then it can block nano bombs that aren't intangible. Period.



Stop mentioning size here cause it really doesn't matter. The fact is.

-Susanoo can block intangible gases.
-So it can block something that isn't intangible, no matter how small it is.

Never seen Sasuke trying to level up but I do see Sasuke in pain holding up Sassanoo. I also see him gaining his chakra back so he was able to use Sassano to break him out of the Mist

Why are you debating with me if you are going to ignore manga fact, and not look at the panels correctly.
He clearly tried to level up in the last panel and failed.

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That's when the mist came in.

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It didn't burn him again afterwards. Because the mist was being blocked out.

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There is no reason why Nano Bombs are going to get through when an intangible gas couldn't. That's like saying you could fit a quarter through a small hole but you can't fit a penny. It makes no sense whatsoever.





Are you still rambling on about this size nonsense? Gas is intangible. Nano Bombs aren't.

Susanoo blocked an intangible gas so it will block C4 nano bombs, as they aren't intangible.


Baseless assumption is baseless. Madara isn't part of the Kyuubi, so you are wrong. Bring proof or this point will be ignored.




Now you're trying to contest manga fact? I already posted a scan of his dome protecting him from the explosion. That dome will tank GSB as Bijuu Dama>>>>GSB. End of story.

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No one ever said Obito can't phase through it. He just has to remain intangible while he's in it and can't become solid. He can't become solid in Susanoo for the same reason he can't become solid in TBB. Cause there is no room.




:sy: Are you actually saying that if you make a hole in someone's armor? Cause if you are, then just log off now. A Hole in Susanoo=/=Another person being able to fit inside the Susanoo.




Are you blind?

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His Susanoo's chakra is solid here.

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Its not solid over here.
The fact he had to shift it proves that he can't enter Susanoo, become solid, and warp Madara away.

Where did I say he couldn't phase through? He just can't become solid while phasing through Susanoo and if he can't become solid he can't warp Madara.

i'm quoting this whole thing but really just want to address the first part...

Oxygen and gases actually are tangible, something that is intangible is like computer data.

Intangible means not being able to be touched or grasped, but you can both touch and grasp oxygen. Wind is proof of that. As for Susano'o selectively letting in certain gasses, I don't know.


Everything else is sound.

 

[AGoodBoy]

LOL WHAT? NO

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That was a zetsu clone. For all you know that was a bluff since I don't think we've ever seen a zetsu clone actually do jutsu from someone it copied, but i could be wrong. Maybe it's somewhere through the war arc; but I'm skimming that arc hardcore.

i'm quoting this whole thing but really just want to address the first part...

Oxygen and gases actually are tangible, something that is intangible is like computer data.

Intangible means not being able to be touched or grasped, but you can both touch and grasp oxygen. Wind is proof of that. As for Susano'o selectively letting in certain gasses, I don't know.


Everything else is sound.

I personally think Susano'o just blocks all chakra based attacks(because it's made of chakra), and physical attacks (because the user's chakra forms a solid barrier). That's why i think susano'o can block something like mist, but not air. But, hey, it's their debate lol, just wanted to add my fiddy cent

 

[KidGamer65]

i'm quoting this whole thing but really just want to address the first part...

Oxygen and gases actually are tangible, something that is intangible is like computer data.

Intangible means not being able to be touched or grasped, but you can both touch and grasp oxygen. Wind is proof of that. As for Susano'o selectively letting in certain gasses, I don't know.


Everything else is sound.

Ok, thanks for correcting me on that. Susanoo must selectively let in certain gases though. Cause the Ribcage blocked off the Acid Mist but Sasuke could still breathe in the air....maybe it works how AGoodBoy described it.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

So does that mean i can put my input without being attacked

 

[KidGamer65]

So does that mean i can put my input without being attacked

If you decide not to contradict manga fact, post baseless assumptions without proof, and put words in my mouth.

Not to mention no one attacked you in the first place...lmfao.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Post where i contradict the manga
Post my baseless assumption

Or paraphrase them
Edit: i cant quote on phone but yes i was.

 

[KidGamer65]

Post where i contradict the manga
Post my baseless assumption

Or paraphrase them

-Bijuu Dama destroying the Mokuton dome.
Already posted a scan that shows the dome tanking Bijuu Dama, but you reply telling me it was destroyed.

-C4 getting past Susanoo.
Completely baseless, you have provided no evidence of this being true, especially when gas, which is much thinner than nano bombs was blocked.

Gas will be blocked but Nano Bombs won't? Hilarious.

-Obito being able to go inside Susanoo and warp Madara out.

Again, false as I showed two scans of Sasuke having to adjust Susanoo to let Zetsu in.

-Madara can't protect Hashirama and Kyuubi with Susanoo when he has already displayed the ability to shapeshift his Susanoo.

Baseless assumption. All you said was "No, its not possible" with ZERO proof.

Stop contradicting manga fact. Stop making baseless assumptions.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

-Bijuu Dama destroying the Mokuton dome.
Already posted a scan that shows the dome tanking Bijuu Dama, but you reply telling me it was destroyed.

not a contradiction S wood god is no longer present threr it was destroyed. A different shape wood realse is then shown thst covered him from.the after blast. So no contradiction
-C4 getting past Susanoo.
Completely baseless, you have provided no evidence of this being true, especially when gas, which is much thinner than nano bombs was blocked.

Gas will be blocked but Nano Bombs won't? Hilarious.

-Obito being able to go inside Susanoo and warp Madara out.

Again, false as I showed two scans of Sasuke having to adjust Susanoo to let Zetsu in.

-Madara can't protect Hashirama and Kyuubi with Susanoo when he has already displayed the ability to shapeshift his Susanoo.hg

Baseless assumption. All you said was "No, its not possible" with ZERO proof.

Stop contradicting manga fact. Stop making baseless assumptions.

God hate writing on phone. I will easily clears these up when i get home. To much work on phone

 

[Brother Numpsay]

-Bijuu Dama destroying the Mokuton dome.
Already posted a scan that shows the dome tanking Bijuu Dama, but you reply telling me it was destroyed.

not a contradiction S wood god is no longer present threr it was destroyed. A different shape wood realse is then shown thst covered him from.the after blast. So no contradiction
-C4 getting past Susanoo.
Completely baseless, you have provided no evidence of this being true, especially when gas, which is much thinner than nano bombs was blocked.

Gas will be blocked but Nano Bombs won't? Hilarious.

-Obito being able to go inside Susanoo and warp Madara out.

Again, false as I showed two scans of Sasuke having to adjust Susanoo to let Zetsu in.

-Madara can't protect Hashirama and Kyuubi with Susanoo when he has already displayed the ability to shapeshift his Susanoo.hg

Baseless assumption. All you said was "No, its not possible" with ZERO proof.

Stop contradicting manga fact. Stop making baseless assumptions.

God hate writing on phone. I will easily clears these up when i get home. To much work on phone