Madara and Hashirama equal in power

[Fighter2011]

And here come the fanboys again lol.

Could not agree more with your post. They were obviously roughly equal in power, otherwise they would not be rivals.

And, stop with your double standards uchiha haters. You change your opinion in every fight just to ignore the fact that uchihas are elite.

One minute, edo tensei is part of kabuto's power, but now the kyuubi is not Madara's?? Lol. Madara was controlling the beat, so it was his powers as much as it is naruto's now, and as much as edo tensei is kabuto's. Stop hating

 

[SilverDuck]

Don't criticize fanboys when you are CLEARLY one yourself. That is the most frustrating thing. You're not capable of talking about it without your own biases and ignorance shining through. I just son,t understand why people are like this. ALL fanboys are the same, regardless of their characters. You all claim to be "fair" in your interpretations, but you aren't capable of it. Like I've said, this chapter had something for both sides, Uchiha fans and Senju fans. It showed Hashirama's undeniable might, and it shows Madara almost besting that. Almost, being the key word. He did lose. He did not mean to lose. He ****ed up with the clone because he was exhausted, and his Sharingan had shut off. It is an absolute, undeniable fact that they BOTH went all out. Balls to the walls, white knuckle, throwdown fight to the death. Look at the sheer magnitude of the attacks they were throwing at each other. You don't do that if you aren't planning to kill the opponent.

I'm still amazed that Madara fought him to the bitter end, and almost won. He took on the Sage God of Shinobi, with the enormous hand thinging, which dwarfs KyuubiSusano'o. If him being able to stand after all of that isn't enough to prove that he is very, VERY close to Hashirama, nothing ever will. They were both on their second wind right before it ended. Both could barely stand, or hold their composure. Hashirama fanboys are absolute idiots if that doesn't make them see Madara's might, and Madara fanboys are absolutely batshit crazy if they really believe that Madara won. Simple as that.

 

[~Madara Uchiha~]

Hashirama beat Madara with Kyuubi and was trying to stop Madara without killing him until the end. Not very equal in my opinion.

I think Hashirama used full power but was still had conflicted feelings in the fight.. But you guys could also be right

 

[Sefirosu Masamune]

1.How do you know the statue was gone? All we saw was them fighting with the statue and then we got a time skip.. with it gone..

2.Where is your proof he just left the statue sitting somewhere.. All I saw was them fighting and then a time skip.. and it was gone.. Madara was arrogant thinking he had won the battle.. you honestly think Madara couldnt have seen that clone coming LOL

3.What does that have to do with anything? Madara had the nine tails deal with it.

4.My opinion still stands... Hashirama fans are using this as an excuse.. Hashirama was fighting at full power.. Kishi always intedned for them to be equal in the end.. and this right here showed us just that.

Your a bias fanboy....no use arguing with you when your obviously not even reading the manga....
Good day fanboy.....

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

Nope, Hashi always has the 1000 hands of rape statue while Madara... Well Madara doesn't have the 9 tails anymore

actually you are wrong madara tried summoning the 9 tails remember

 

[tatonation39]

i dont agree to this madara has out to kill hashirama mean while hashirama was njust trying to reason with him the whole time when you fight a person and you dont have the intes to kill you will never go full power i refuse to believe hashirama went full power in the other chapters it shows this so still madara was strong but hashirama beat him he was blinded even with his ems

 

[doubledude]

Dude, how can you say that.
Yes, they are about equal but I'd put my money on Hashirama for sure, he beat Madara with Kyuubi. If it was a fair 1v1(i'm not saying this fight wasn't fair...) Hashi would win high difficulty but wouldn't almost die.

 

[~Madara Uchiha~]

Don't criticize fanboys when you are CLEARLY one yourself. That is the most frustrating thing. You're not capable of talking about it without your own biases and ignorance shining through. I just son,t understand why people are like this. ALL fanboys are the same, regardless of their characters. You all claim to be "fair" in your interpretations, but you aren't capable of it. Like I've said, this chapter had something for both sides, Uchiha fans and Senju fans. It showed Hashirama's undeniable might, and it shows Madara almost besting that. Almost, being the key word. He did lose. He did not mean to lose. He ****ed up with the clone because he was exhausted, and his Sharingan had shut off. It is an absolute, undeniable fact that they BOTH went all out. Balls to the walls, white knuckle, throwdown fight to the death. Look at the sheer magnitude of the attacks they were throwing at each other. You don't do that if you aren't planning to kill the opponent.

I'm still amazed that Madara fought him to the bitter end, and almost won. He took on the Sage God of Shinobi, with the enormous hand thinging, which dwarfs KyuubiSusano'o. If him being able to stand after all of that isn't enough to prove that he is very, VERY close to Hashirama, nothing ever will. They were both on their second wind right before it ended. Both could barely stand, or hold their composure. Hashirama fanboys are absolute idiots if that doesn't make them see Madara's might, and Madara fanboys are absolutely batshit crazy if they really believe that Madara won. Simple as that.

I didnt say he won.. I say he couldve won if it wernt for his arrogance.. Dont know why people cant agree with that.. I mean its happened to soo many villains in this series...

 

[dominicansharingan]

1.How do you know the statue was gone? All we saw was them fighting with the statue and then we got a time skip.. with it gone..

2.Where is your proof he just left the statue sitting somewhere.. All I saw was them fighting and then a time skip.. and it was gone.. Madara was arrogant thinking he had won the battle.. you honestly think Madara couldnt have seen that clone coming LOL

3.What does that have to do with anything? Madara had the nine tails deal with it.

4.My opinion still stands... Hashirama fans are using this as an excuse.. Hashirama was fighting at full power.. Kishi always intedned for them to be equal in the end.. and this right here showed us just that.

Well the statue was a summoning jutsu that he was controlling, I think that takes a lot of chakra, plus breaking Madaras control over the kyubii, and tame the kyubii are you serious? The statue was gone bcuz he prolly summoned back to mount myuboku of wood or something like that.

I can't understand how can someone be so ignorant! Bro Madara said it himself that Hashi is stronger, if Madara had a chance was that fight bcuz he was controlling the kyubii.

The 1000 hands beast is part of Hashi's arsenal while Madara doesn't own the Kyubii.

If they go at it with pure skill with now outside sources Madara has no ****ing chance plus he can't even cast a damn genjutsu...

Don't tell me he could do izanagi bcuz we haven't seen him using it or any tipe of genjutsu. Just bcuz someone has a MS doesn't mean they get exceptional at getjutsu. Examples: Kakashi, Obito, Sasuke... So please do nt start assuming that if Madara wanted he could've used Izanami or Tsukuyomi or none of that

 

[Flawž]

If they were equal then why didn't Madara ever win against hashirama?

Also, Why did Madara need the kyuubi in that fight?

Lol

 

[SilverDuck]

The excuse that either didn't,t want to kill each other, for whichever reason, is moot. As in, both sides can argue that, but it is strictly interpretation and perspective, NOT fact. People need to stop calling their opinions fact. Fact is something that is actually stated to be true. Fact is undeniable, not up for debate. This is mere speculation.

Hashirama loved Madara. He didn't want to fight, or kill Madara. He never did. He tried until the very bitter end to find a way to bring Madara back, without harming him. He made the decision to and it the moment he stabbed Madara. I believe Hashirama still had some tiny amount of hope all the way until his sword entered Madara's chest.

 

[dominicansharingan]

actually you are wrong madara tried summoning the 9 tails remember

Was he successful? There will be always a host for that beast so no....

 

[Bluntss]

Yes Madara could have won, it was a close battle. But still in the end Hashirama won, as we all knew before this chapter

 

[~Madara Uchiha~]

Your a bias fanboy....no use arguing with you when your obviously not even reading the manga....
Good day fanboy.....

i dont agree to this madara has out to kill hashirama mean while hashirama was njust trying to reason with him the whole time when you fight a person and you dont have the intes to kill you will never go full power i refuse to believe hashirama went full power in the other chapters it shows this so still madara was strong but hashirama beat him he was blinded even with his ems

Dude, how can you say that.
Yes, they are about equal but I'd put my money on Hashirama for sure, he beat Madara with Kyuubi. If it was a fair 1v1(i'm not saying this fight wasn't fair...) Hashi would win high difficulty but wouldn't almost die.

1. Youve given up? Ok

2. Alright think what you want. Ive already said my side of the story way too many times. Oh and at the end He didnt have EMS on... He couldve atleast had 3 tomo sharingan... but he was arrogant..

3. You deny the fact Hashirama was on the verge of collapse? I admit if Madara didnt have Kyuubi it wouldnt have lasted as long but he did.. he almost won too.

 

[SilverDuck]

They weren't equal. How can Madara fanboys disagree with Madara himself? It's ****ing idiotic. He himself has ALWAYS known, and stated that he was inferior to Hashirama. But I believe it is a very, very, very, very, very, very, VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY tiny gap. So small, the only people who know it is Hashirama and himself.

Stop it with the arrogance argument. Again, that is speculation, not a stated fact. Madara lost because he was that tiny iota of a difference weaker than Hashirama. Tuck your fanboy back in, it's showing.

 

[Flawž]

1. Youve given up? Ok

2. Alright think what you want. Ive already said my side of the story way too many times. Oh and at the end He didnt have EMS on... He couldve atleast had 3 tomo sharingan... but he was arrogant..

3. You deny the fact Hashirama was on the verge of collapse? I admit if Madara didnt have Kyuubi it wouldnt have lasted as long but he did.. he almost won too.

you mean the guy who had to deactivate his sharingan in the final fight because of chakra exhaustion.

Or are you talking about the other guy who still had enough chakra to make a wooden clone Lol

 

[Papadeepz]

It irritates me that Madara said he was the only one who was able to differentiate between Hashi's clones and Hashi V_V
& then he went and got his ass "killed" in such an oblique manner -_-
Was it genjutsu or is there a technique which Madara possesses that he's not letting on about?

 

[SilverDuck]

It wasn't his arrogance that made him turn his dojutsu off. It was clearly exhaustion. We know they can't keep it on every moment well trained Uchiha can keep it on a majority of the time, but EVERY SINGLE ONE shuts off when they reach that level of fatigue. So, he didn't see the clone because he was tired, not arrogant.

 

[~Madara Uchiha~]

Well the statue was a summoning jutsu that he was controlling, I think that takes a lot of chakra, plus breaking Madaras control over the kyubii, and tame the kyubii are you serious? The statue was gone bcuz he prolly summoned back to mount myuboku of wood or something like that.

I can't understand how can someone be so ignorant! Bro Madara said it himself that Hashi is stronger, if Madara had a chance was that fight bcuz he was controlling the kyubii.

The 1000 hands beast is part of Hashi's arsenal while Madara doesn't own the Kyubii.

If they go at it with pure skill with now outside sources Madara has no ****ing chance plus he can't even cast a damn genjutsu...

Don't tell me he could do izanagi bcuz we haven't seen him using it or any tipe of genjutsu. Just bcuz someone has a MS doesn't mean they get exceptional at getjutsu. Examples: Kakashi, Obito, Sasuke... So please do nt start assuming that if Madara wanted he could've used Izanami or Tsukuyomi or none of that

If they were equal then why didn't Madara ever win against hashirama?

Also, Why did Madara need the kyuubi in that fight?

Lol

Was he successful? There will be always a host for that beast so no....

1. I stopped reading when you said Madara said Hashirama is stronger.. I think you should leave this thread and go re read the whole part when Madara came back from the beginning.. He says Hashirama is the only one that can fight him.. not beat.. there is a difference.

2.Hmm Once again bringing the Kyuubi in as a jutsufuacation to how weak Madara is... I admit Madara never once won a battle but Madara went and got the Kyuubi and was able to perfectly control it... If thats not impressive I dont know what is.. Whether you like it or not Kyuubi was apart of his power. With your logic I could say.. Why did Naruto need the Kyuubi for all his fights?

3. So it proves he can summon him at will and control him.. If you dont think thats impressive... then Nothing can impress you.

 

[Flawž]

1. I stopped reading when you said Madara said Hashirama is stronger.. I think you should leave this thread and go re read the whole part when Madara came back from the beginning.. He says Hashirama is the only one that can fight him.. not beat.. there is a difference.

2.Hmm Once again bringing the Kyuubi in as a jutsufuacation to how weak Madara is... I admit Madara never once won a battle but Madara went and got the Kyuubi and was able to perfectly control it... If thats not impressive I dont know what is.. Whether you like it or not Kyuubi was apart of his power. With your logic I could say.. Why did Naruto need the Kyuubi for all his fights?

3. So it proves he can summon him at will and control him.. If you dont think thats impressive... then Nothing can impress you.

Yes it is his power but that proves that madara is not in the same league as Hashirama because he had to go find kurama and control him in assisting.