Madara and hashi are well over hyped

[Orochimaruofthesound]

Thats right believe it

i feel it just doesnt make sense that there has never been ninja as strong as them

what i mean is we have not eve seen a full fight

and Edo madara is just an experiment

In no way shape or form was madara that strong in his life


Dont get me wrong they were the strongest shinobi for there time but a living madara would have been beaten by the 5 kages

and hashirama was deem the god of all shinobi by orochimaru who had also called hiruzen the god of all shinobi


no way living counter parts could stand up to


Nagato
Itachi
Sasuke
or even obito
or naruto

let alone the 5 kages that edo madara faced

 

[Dr Strangelove]

I agree Madara was no way as strong as he is in his current edo form.
However I do believe Hashirama will always be the strongest shinobi. Unless Naruto surpasses him ofc

 

[FleeOnSight]

Both can take out itachi.

 

[FreakensteinAG]

A living Madara would have gotten tired after defeating the 5 Kages, but Edo Madara shows the viewers that he has the ability to do so. The fact of the matter is he did, so it's not entirely out of the question that he can still defeat them were he living.

 

[HadouKage]

I think Hashi can and Madara is debatable however what ninja do you know (Beside Nagato and his gravitational manipulation) can beat the five pages combined?

 

[PredictionGuru]

Or EVEN OBito? Wtf man. Obito is a freaking god tier ninja

same with nareuto

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

A living Madara would have gotten tired after defeating the 5 Kages, but Edo Madara shows the viewers that he has the ability to do so. The fact of the matter is he did, so it's not entirely out of the question that he can still defeat them were he living.

Living madara did not have the ability to use mokuton nor could he fight when he achieved rinnegan (which is the only reason he won )

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

I think Hashi can and Madara is debatable however what ninja do you know (Beside Nagato and his gravitational manipulation) can beat the five pages combined?

kabuto in dsm and his "edo army" i count the edo tensei as the casters power but you cant rank edo characters because nothing can beat them

 

[HadouKage]

kabuto in dsm and his "edo army" i count the edo tensei as the casters power but you cant rank edo characters because nothing can beat them

That's a given I didn't think I'd need to mention him, he's in a league all on his own

 

[Lucidus]

i agree.. they were the strongest during there time and maybe had a lot of power but just because they may have more power than
someone else doesnt make them better.. Its not always about strength

ninja who i think could beat or stand up to them:

Minato
Naruto
Nagato
Itachi
Gaara

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

i agree.. they were the strongest during there time and maybe had a lot of power but just because they may have more power than
someone else doesnt make them better.. Its not always about strength

ninja who i think could beat or stand up to them:

Minato
Naruto
Nagato
Itachi
Gaara

i mean come on its there legend alone you know they've been hyped for the longest time more hype out of everyone

 

[TheCCV]

Nope, I don't agree. Hashi was simply a legend, and Madara had a 9 Tailed, Susanoo armored fox.
You're underrating him.

 

[Lucidus]

i mean come on its there legend alone you know they've been hyped for the longest time more hype out of everyone

exactly its the same case with Hiruzen.. just because he had all these titles does not mean he is the best out of everyone... there are a lot of ninja that could beat them

Nope, I don't agree. Hashi was simply a legend, and Madara had a 9 Tailed, Susanoo armored fox.
You're underrating him.

Yes they were legends however it does not make them the best ninja's... they might have been during there time however there are those with less power but are more efficient such as Minato and Gaara

Narutoverse is about match up there will always be someone who can win against another.. its like Rock, Paper, Scissors

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

Nope, I don't agree. Hashi was simply a legend, and Madara had a 9 Tailed, Susanoo armored fox.
You're underrating him.

By claiming someone is a "god" is complete arrogance and its not like we havnt heard it before


madara, hashi, sage of 6 paths, pain hiruzen

and guess what they are all dead

 

[pandu]

Yes they were legends however it does not make them the best ninja's... they might have been during there time however there are those with less power but are more efficient such as Minato and Gaara

Narutoverse is about match up there will always be someone who can win against another.. its like Rock, Paper, Scissors

I agree with your comparison but the scale of their attacks alone makes them almost unbeatable.Sure paper beats rock but can it beat a rock the size of a mountain??NO.

 

[SoulKiller]

exactly its the same case with Hiruzen.. just because he had all these titles does not mean he is the best out of everyone... there are a lot of ninja that could beat them



Yes they were legends however it does not make them the best ninja's... they might have been during there time however there are those with less power but are more efficient such as Minato and Gaara

Narutoverse is about match up there will always be someone who can win against another.. its like Rock, Paper, Scissors

I agree with you