Madara and Guy vs Tobi and Kakashi

[MangekyouJ]

The panel in the manga reads Sharingan Genjutsu, now unless you can read japanese and get a raw version to prove me wrong... it was stated by Danzo that Sasuke lacks Genjutsu in his arsenal, and is only to use it for a few seconds.

No....He said that it was only a farce compared to Itachi...meaning that it wasn't up at his level.....

But in the end....the genjutsu worked even if it was only for a few second....he fell for a weak genjutsu....one that wasn't even Tsukyomi...

 

[~MC117~]

Tobi and kakashi FTW

 

[CDT23]

This is where you said it....We have YET to see virtually any techniques come from tobi except Izagani.....that was his only technique we've seen.....we haven't seen any MS techniques from him nor Rinnegan techniques....so basically what I'm saying he's a more glorified version of Kakashi.....at least we've SEEN him use a MS technique....

Again... S at the end for plural, more than one... not all... also most of them, meaning the ones he knows not the ones hashi knows, also the Absence of Evidence is not the Evidence of Absence. we've yet to see him actually fight but this does not mean that he can't. He has been Running, but what makes you piss off the most? hitting your enemy and see them run, or not being able to hit them, get laughed at, then he leaves cuz your not worthy... Surprise is the key to him winning, if every one knew his techniques before the war started, they can prepare for it... if know one knows they can only prepare for what they do know.

 

[MangekyouJ]

Again... S at the end for plural, more than one... not all... also most of them, meaning the ones he knows not the ones hashi knows, also the Absence of Evidence is not the Evidence of Absence. we've yet to see him actually fight but this does not mean that he can't. He has been Running, but what makes you piss off the most? hitting your enemy and see them run, or not being able to hit them, get laughed at, then he leaves cuz your not worthy... Surprise is the key to him winning, if every one knew his techniques before the war started, they can prepare for it... if know one knows they can only prepare for what they do know.

Rep+......I can't go against that....it's actually my motto when I'm out in the field...

 

[AvatarMadara]

He was more of unprepared to fight Madara at the time/surprise(obviously because he didnt have the Rinnegan implanted yet) than crapping his pants... considering he started a war, and Fighting Madara at the time would end up him loosing the war...

When Tobi saw Madara he had the Rinnegan already.

 

[CDT23]

When Tobi saw Madara he had the Rinnegan already.

Mask Still oldschool one

he doesn't get it till his old mask gets blown during his fight with Konan... to retrieve the Rinnegan.
heres my proof

You must be registered for see images

 

[MangekyouJ]

Mask Still oldschool one

he doesn't get it till his old mask gets blown during his fight with Konan... to retrieve the Rinnegan.
heres my proof

You must be registered for see images

Can't argue with manga proof....^^^^^^

 

[home]

madara and gai imo

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Why make Madara Edo? He is way to OP in Edo because he can spam that god forsaken meteorite technique that is suicidal but because he is an edo it doesn't matter

tobis still capable of avoiding it or tanking with gedo statue.

tobi aint anything lol id like to see a fight where he isnt phazing through everything and see how he does

well then i want a fight where madara has no magic eyeballs. what then?

Sadly but true even Tobi cant beat Madara but he is the closes in the series that could beat him

madara cant really counter tobi's s/t though

tobi nearly crapped his pants when he saw madara's corpse.

no he was surprised. he didnt seem scared when threatening kabuto to show him how edo tensei works

2. fight kyubi while protecting the village.
3. being injured and draining alot of chakra while saving the village
4. protecting naruto and his mom

he was doing none of this vs tobi because he left the village and his wife in hiruzens hands

again Tobi nearly crapping his pants when seeing Madara's corpse. I think somebody's afraid of someone

i think he was afraid of edo immortality and fighting akatsukis now that kabuto knew he wasnt madara

We have YET to see virtually any techniques come from tobi except Izagani

wrong. chakra chains, rinnegan's chakra rods, gedo mazo summon, kyubi summon, genjutsu strong enough to tame two bijuus, intangibility, teleporting, izanagi and presumably izanami

 

[jorgelius]

we haven't seen tobi fighting without he's six paths of jinchuuriki was those meant to be included? if not madara will win easy-mid dif,
Quote:
We have YET to see virtually any techniques come from tobi except Izagani
wrong. chakra chains, rinnegan's chakra rods, gedo mazo summon, kyubi summon, genjutsu strong enough to tame two bijuus, intangibility, teleporting, izanagi and presumably izanami

-rinne chakra chains, no he did it to jinchuuriki which were edo's and didn't strugle against it.