[Theory] Luffy's real DAD?

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Well, I am not sure about this, I never was and I don't think many people will buy it. But today's chapter made it pretty clear for me.

I think Luffy is actually the son of "Gol D. Roger"
While Ace was the son of "Monkey D. Dragon"

And "Dragon" is aware of it.

Consider this, Dragon's family would have been in as much risk as roger's. When we saw the marines looking for Roger's family they might as well have been looking for Dragon's. Otherwise why would Garp arrive 11 months after rogue was due to give birth to Roger's child?

I mean he knew Rogue was going to have a child but he never visited the area until the day of his birth and that was according to the timeline a birth after 20 months? This makes me think Garp already took Luffy away to a safe place and came back for dragon's son.

Another thing to notice is garp said, "So, he inherited it after all!" when he watched luffy's display of king's dominance at marineford. But the funny thing is we have not yet explicitly seen Garp display CoC so far? so what was that inherited shit all about? Of course it is possible Dragon has this Haki, but there is a fifty percent chance that he does not.

Thirdly, in today's chapter Luffy himself said something really interesting "He does not look like me at all!"
And I have been going over this for sometime but every time you see Luffy give that wide smile, he resembles a lot more to yours truly "Gold Roger".

That's my theory :hyper::hyper::hyper::hyper:
 
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So if he doesn't look like his father he is not his kid?

You do know you need a girl and a guy to make a kid right? Luffy could easily look like his mother rather than his father >_>

Don't buying it and to be honest I'd hate that.
 

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Well, I am not sure about this, I never was and I don't think many people will buy it. But today's chapter made it pretty clear for me.

I think Luffy is actually the son of "Gol D. Roger"
While Ace was the son of "Monkey D. Dragon"

And "Dragon" is aware of it.

Consider this, Dragon's family would have been in as much risk as roger's. When we saw the marines looking for Roger's family they might as well have been looking for Dragon's. Otherwise why would Garp arrive 11 months after rogue was due to give birth to Roger's child?

I mean he knew Rogue was going to have a child but he never visited the area until the day of his birth and that was according to the timeline a birth after 20 months? This makes me think Garp already took Luffy away to a safe place and came back for dragon's son.

Another thing to notice is garp said, "So, he inherited it after all!" when he watched luffy's display of king's dominance at marineford. But the funny thing is we have not yet explicitly seen Garp display CoC so far? so what was that inherited shit all about? Of course it is possible Dragon has this Haki, but there is a fifty percent chance that he does not.

Thirdly, in today's chapter Luffy himself said something really interesting "He does not look like me at all!"
And I have been going over this for sometime but every time you see Luffy give that wide smile, he resembles a lot more to yours truly "Gold Roger".

That's my theory :hyper::hyper::hyper::hyper:
Thank you i agree all yu really have to do is look at odas subtle hints ace luffy and sabo are brothers white beard gold roger nd dragon could have switched sons nd sworn brothers hood in same manner 2 black haired boys and a blonde jesus did u see rayleigh wen luffy leaves him those tears are genuine the way luffy asks zoro being in almost the same spot as gold roger when he asks rayleigh just reading those chapters made me realize this luffy saying he looks nothing like dragon confirms it luffy is gold rogers spitting image for christ sake the smile the hat the portrayal its all their for oda to tell us hahha i lied luffy is gold rogers son lol i wont be surprised at all good find though no one will admit it until we see a page confirming it but I believe in your theory
 

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Well, I am not sure about this, I never was and I don't think many people will buy it. But today's chapter made it pretty clear for me.

I think Luffy is actually the son of "Gol D. Roger"
While Ace was the son of "Monkey D. Dragon"

And "Dragon" is aware of it.

Consider this, Dragon's family would have been in as much risk as roger's. When we saw the marines looking for Roger's family they might as well have been looking for Dragon's. Otherwise why would Garp arrive 11 months after rogue was due to give birth to Roger's child?

I mean he knew Rogue was going to have a child but he never visited the area until the day of his birth and that was according to the timeline a birth after 20 months? This makes me think Garp already took Luffy away to a safe place and came back for dragon's son.

Another thing to notice is garp said, "So, he inherited it after all!" when he watched luffy's display of king's dominance at marineford. But the funny thing is we have not yet explicitly seen Garp display CoC so far? so what was that inherited shit all about? Of course it is possible Dragon has this Haki, but there is a fifty percent chance that he does not.

Thirdly, in today's chapter Luffy himself said something really interesting "He does not look like me at all!"
And I have been going over this for sometime but every time you see Luffy give that wide smile, he resembles a lot more to yours truly "Gold Roger".

That's my theory :hyper::hyper::hyper::hyper:
There are many ideas you can easily discard simply by considering how they would influence the story, the development of the characters and the perception of the readers. If they screw majorly up either one of them, you can forget about the idea unless they author really would be completely oblivious. If what you say would really be true, you effectively destroyed multiple characters, in particular Ace. Ace has been haunted his entire life by the legacy of his father, it even lead to his death and only in his final moments he was able to come to terms with it. What you do is pretty much, on the moment Ace died, jump out of the shadows and yell it was all a joke and that his real father is Dragon. With other words Ace's entire life would have been a big, fat lie. Also as a result the Marineford arc would screwed over as it was all one huge mistake and to us both the emotions we associate with all of these events as the expectations we had for the future, like Luffy meeting Dragon, have likewise been screwed over. Luffy meeting his father is something very different than Luffy meeting his fake father, a fake father he wouldn't even have to meet as he doesn't have a connection with him anymore.

This alone makes it almost certain you can discard everything you just said as what you are doing comes down to raping the story. Secondly none of the arguments you used have any value:

Dragon's family didn't ran as much risk as Roger's. Why? Because one Dragon's threat grew throughout the years. At the point of Roger's death if he was already known, he wasn't considered that much of a risk yet. Secondly Dragon is the son of Garp. The reason as why Roger asked Garp of all people to take care of his son, was because he was certain he would and could keep him safe. If Garp already did that for his worst enemy, he certainly would do it for his own son and grandson. And the reason why Rogue kept Ace so long in her womb, was because than no one would ever think Ace was Roger's son as it should be physically impossible for a guy who died to father a child that was conceived long after he died. If Garp would have taken Ace while they were having their paranoid baby witch hunt and someone would have seen him, it would have been over. However after all the time that passed, no one would have ever thought that the kid Garp would have with him, was Roger's son. Sengoku made it perfectly clear that it was Rogue's obstinacy to keep Ace in her womb for that long is what saved him. You also can't know how many times Garp visited or didn't visit Rogue.

Garp was one of the strongest people of his generation. His son is the leader of one of the most powerful organizations in the world and unique in its nature as it opposes the WG. Now it's debatable whether Garp has the KD, but you can be certain that Dragon has it and even if that wouldn't be the case, just the facts alone that his father and grandfather are of that caliber, would be enough for Garp to assume his grandchild would be special. And then I'm not even including Luffy's maternal heritage, which is unknown atm, and the possibility that Garp knows more about the meaning of the "D" and what happened during the Void Century. Also we have never seen Roger using the KD. So your reasons to doubt that either Garp or Dragon has the KD apply as much to Roger as it does to them. Why would he expect that that Roger's son would have it, but not his own grandson?

Lastly Luffy had never any interest in his parentage to the point he even thought he didn't have any. And even after it was revealed what kind of an infamous man his father was, he didn't bother at all showing any kind of interest. That he said in this chapter that they don't resemble each other, is just Luffy being how he always has been. He finally can see his dad and then he comically says they don't resemble each other. Putting that aside, children don't have to look like their parents and Dragon doesn't look like Garp much either. So as an argument, this is very weak.


Originally many people were considering the possibility that Luffy was related to Roger. That however was skillfully exploited by Oda by introducing Dragon and turning Ace into Roger's son and Luffy's adoptive brother. The result? Orgasmic plot development. Now rewinding all of that would be pointless, stupid and anticlimactic. It doesn't do anything else than hurting the story, so you can pretty much disregard this completely.
 

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Ive been thinking about this theory too for over 2 years, but i just hope not, know why? I mean his childhood was mentally fuq because of roger and then if roger wasnt his real dad then his death would be pointless and he lived his whole life without knowing the truth and as garp a marine hero i dont see that really happenibg and if luffy was rogers real son then ace death wasnt really he desserve it. And one thing ivankov said that theres no way dragon would just sit around so if dragon was ace father he shouldve went to marineford am i right?
 
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Do you remember how taken Ivankov was when she discovered Luffy was Dragon's son only for her expression to turn into horror when he claimed Ace was his brother. She claimed the WG had lost their mind to not only attack WB's commander BUT Dragon's own son. She knew neither of the two would sit down and let this travesty come to pass. If this is not enough Oda has always gone out to show Dragon - Luffy reactions. i.e saving him from Smoker, musing at his bounty raise, openly expressing pleasure that his subordinate view him in a more humane light etc. Do you really believe if his son died Dragon would be smiling on the denden mushi post Marineford?

TBH the best thing to come out of this thread was the whole two notion of 2D and a blonde.

D. Rodger = D Ace
Whitebeard = Sabo
D. Garp = D Luffy

If Oda wants to blow our minds. Try and justify WB smashing some noble ass and having a bastard son whom he never got to meet.

 

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First if your one of the characters who could go toe toe with the KING of pirates / almost kill each other like almost almoooost you need to have a coc you just need to! King vs king know what i mean plus all the admirals was supposed to have a coc since they were ordering everything above them, and also garp refused the fleet admiral rank just because he wants more freedom or something? And just why would garp need to lie about it? He was a proud marine,he was called a hero, and also luffy inherited his coc powers from his father dragon, all im saying we dont really know what connection garp have with roger they probably blood related, probably the ancient kingdom has something to do with garp and roger connection.
 
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