[Theory] Luffy's Gear 4 (Full breakdown)

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This is short theory and an original idea on what I think Luffy's gear 4 will be. Keep in mind I've heard it all when its comes down to G4. My theory is strictly DF base and doesn't involve haki to make this a reality. And also I'll tell you why he needs it.

Most common G4 theory: Luffy will combine G2+G3 an wreck shit. All that is fine but that technique would be stressful to Luffy's body also he would be faster but he would still be a Big target because of the large arms attached to him and it would look extremely dumb in my opinion.

[video=youtube;Lcqk7XuRPSI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcqk7XuRPSI[/video]

Gear 2nd-Very fast-Very weak
Gear 3rd-Very slow-Extremely powerful

In the NW Luffy can't use these same attacks all fight long because they have drawbacks like I mentioned. So he'll have to strike the perfect balance where he can use G2+ G3 combos without being a big target

Rubber Compression and Decompression and Expansion
Hybrid Luffy

If we look at G3 its basically expansion. My idea is the opposite. In my idea Luffy will be able to compress the air in his G3 arm into his normal arm and make his power compressed making him almost like Garp where he doesn't need to stretch as much to be effective. In this form he could also use G2nd. So imagine Luffy using the speed of G2 and the power of G3 in his normal hands or slightly bigger. The way I see him looking is like nightmare Luffy but more leaner of cause and not blue.

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Expansion on impact

When Luffy is in his hybrid compressed form. He can expand on impact and use all of his G2 and G3 techiques together in combos

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Scenario 1 combo-Luffy throws a jet pistol vs Doffy. Doffy is about to dodge but because Luffy's power is compressed he expands his normal hand into G3 increasing his accuracy by 100% and messing with Doffy's observation timing because of the unpredictabilty

Scenario 2 combo-Luffy power is compressed so he throws a Red Hawk at Doffy. Doffy is about to dodge at the very last second and Luffy hands expand into a Giganto Red Hawk. The expansion would allow for the momentum of G2 to continue whiles he is in his G3 fist

Scenario 3 vs Swordsman-Luffy doesn't stretch at all because he has no need to. He just fights close range using the speed of G2 and the power of G3 in his normal hand.Or if he throws stretches his arm like he did vs Mihawk and Mihawk goes to sidestep and cut it off he can expand it to make a swordman change up there gameplan

Base mode Luffy upgrade

Also if this idea were to be true I would like to see Base Luffy decompress his body so he can use snake like density to increase his base speed and unpredictabilty. He won't be able to throw puches in snake mode but he'll use piecing attacks like Snake shot. The attacks would be fast because his limbs and body will be extremely light like "one with the wind"..and at the tip of his dense limb he'll have haki on it

Gear 2nd upgrade

G2 upgrade isn't relevant to this theory but I still decided to put it. Instead of pumping blood from 2 limbs he can pump blood from all 4 corners of his body. And if he extended all his limbs back and use G2 on each limb he could set all his limbs on fire for atleast 2 minutes on land and of course he has to protect his limbs with haki.

Sidenote:All these ideas are simply based around "energy conservation" since top tiers can fight for a long time. If Luffy can do G2+G3 the normal way I'm sure it won't be for long like 2 minutes max because of the stress. If you like the idea add to it or leave feed back

Also I would like to hear what you guys would like G4 to be because Luffy will need a DF power up sooner or later haki ain't gonna cut it alone in closing the gap between him an the top tiers in a short period of time.
 
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like the idea of expansion upon impact. and i've seen the snake movement idea somewhere and agreed with it. all in all, this could work. dk what oda has in store tho.
 

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nice theories except for u sayin that gear second is very weak. its actually rather strong. speed X Mass = Force.
Its not weak but I don't think G2 attacks can't take out people alone like it did in paradise. The NW for Luffy is all about combinations and unpredictabilty and energy conservaton
 

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You presented your theory very nicely but there are a few things I feel you were wrong to say:

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Gear 2nd-Very fast-Very weak
Gear 3rd-Very slow-Extremely powerful
For you to say both of this hurts me because saying G2 is "very" weak... its like saying its a useless powerup... These scans below make you look like an idiot:
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now tell me how is something like that very weak?


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Rubber Compression and Decompression and Expansion
Hybrid Luffy

If we look at G3 its basically expansion. My idea is the opposite. In my idea Luffy will be able to compress the air in his G3 arm into his normal arm and make his power compressed making him almost like Garp where he doesn't need to stretch as much to be effective. In this form he could also use G2nd. So imagine Luffy using the speed of G2 and the power of G3 in his normal hands or slightly bigger. The way I see him looking is like nightmare Luffy but more leaner of cause and not blue.

Example:
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Expansion on impact

When Luffy is in his hybrid compressed form. He can expand on impact and use all of his G2 and G3 techiques together in combos

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Scenario 1 combo-Luffy throws a jet pistol vs Doffy. Doffy is about to dodge but because Luffy's power is compressed he expands his normal hand into G3 increasing his accuracy by 100% and messing with Doffy's observation timing because of the unpredictabilty

Scenario 2 combo-Luffy power is compressed so he throws a Red Hawk at Doffy. Doffy is about to dodge at the very last second and Luffy hands expand into a Giganto Red Hawk. The expansion would allow for the momentum of G2 to continue whiles he is in his G3 fist

Scenario 3 vs Swordsman-Luffy doesn't stretch at all because he has no need to. He just fights close range using the speed of G2 and the power of G3 in his normal hand.Or if he throws stretches his arm like he did vs Mihawk and Mihawk goes to sidestep and cut it off he can expand it to make a swordman change up there gameplan

Base mode Luffy upgrade

Also if this idea were to be true I would like to see Base Luffy decompress his body so he can use snake like density to increase his base speed and unpredictabilty. He won't be able to throw puches in snake mode but he'll use piecing attacks like Snake shot. The attacks would be fast because his limbs and body will be extremely light like "one with the wind"..and at the tip of his dense limb he'll have haki on it

Gear 2nd upgrade

G2 upgrade isn't relevant to this theory but I still decided to put it. Instead of pumping blood from 2 limbs he can pump blood from all 4 corners of his body. And if he extended all his limbs back and use G2 on each limb he could set all his limbs on fire for atleast 2 minutes on land and of course he has to protect his limbs with haki.
I can't believe you just said Luffy can inflate to G3 and switch instantly to G2 by compressing his limbs.... that Idea is just too dumb I don't even have the words to express it. Do you realise that something that is able to compress gas it has to be something that cannot expand? Rubber cannot compress air without itself stretching? I guess I should explain how expansion in rubber happens in the 1st place. Its like a soccer ball they put rubber inside and then cotton outside so that the expanded rubber inside the cotton can stay the same shape because Rubber has properties that are almost similar to water. So please never embarass your self again by talking of a possibility of Luffy inflating and compressing his rubber body that is just impossible.

Oda said years ago that we will only see Luffy stretching, inflating, deflating or expanding his body I rest my case... I will do others later.
 

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I REALLY like the whole last minute expansion idea.
I also like the way you're making G4 out to be like some sort of last minute thing as the toll on his body is a lot and the time it's active is short.
Love it man ;) <3
 

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For you to say both of this hurts me because saying G2 is "very" weak... its like saying its a useless powerup... These scans below make you look like an idiot:
1)When I say G2 is too weak I don't mean it like that. I mean its not enough to win Luffy a fight against top tiers not fodder giants. He needs variation combos to wear out top tiers an win fights an each gear has a flaw

I can't believe you just said Luffy can inflate to G3 and switch instantly to G2 by compressing his limbs.... that Idea is just too dumb I don't even have the words to express it. Do you realise that something that is able to compress gas it has to be something that cannot expand? Rubber cannot compress air without itself stretching? I guess I should explain how expansion in rubber happens in the 1st place. Its like a soccer ball they put rubber inside and then cotton outside so that the expanded rubber inside the cotton can stay the same shape because Rubber has properties that are almost similar to water. So please never embarass your self again by talking of a possibility of Luffy inflating and compressing his rubber body that is just impossible.

Oda said years ago that we will only see Luffy stretching, inflating, deflating or expanding his body I rest my case... I will do others later.
2)You clearly misunderstand what I said. Let me explain something to you Luffy is not a soccer ball he is a rubber man and he can stretch and expand

My idea is Luffy just compresses G3 naturally into his normal hands and probably all over his body. Then if he throws a punch at the last minute he can decompress his fist so that it expands into a normal G3. The concept isn't out the realm for a rubber man to accomplish your making things difficult. I only add G2 into it so he has the speed along the power of G3. I never said G2 was involved in the process of Luffy compressing G3 so read first

Also we have seen compression and expansion techiques in OP aalready

1)Kuma Ursus Shock
2)Franky coup de vent
3)Zoan hybrids like Rob Lucci
4)Zoro Ni Gorilla(Muscle expansion)



So the concept is nothing new. Also you have to take into account this isn't a science class. This is anime where real world logics don't apply. If real world logics where in OP Luffy wouldn't be able to do G3 because its illogical in the realms of science
 

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I REALLY like the whole last minute expansion idea.
I also like the way you're making G4 out to be like some sort of last minute thing as the toll on his body is a lot and the time it's active is short.
Love it man ;) <3
Thanks alot bro and its one of my lamer theories better ones are in store to come out

Have I found LuckyRoo on NB ;)!?
Lol I thought the tagline under me real name and the pic would have gave me away...is the KGB robin from OPB
 

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Heh. Some people get incredibly hostile and defensive when it comes to predictions/theory's, huh?

I actually really like this idea and I consider it somewhat likely.
 

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Yeah, still waiting on this Drake power thread bro ^^
Thats coming tommorow hopefully if I have the time..its almost done tho

Heh. Some people get incredibly hostile and defensive when it comes to predictions/theory's, huh?

I actually really like this idea and I consider it somewhat likely.
Loll :cool: not really
 

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1)When I say G2 is too weak I don't mean it like that. I mean its not enough to win Luffy a fight against top tiers not fodder giants. He needs variation combos to wear out top tiers an win fights an each gear has a flaw


So you're actually not taking bakc your previous statement of saying G2 i very weak? But then again G2 can and will make Luffy beat top tiers like Doffy, Rob Lucci, A Pacifista.. well there are many more top tiers Luffy has beaten using G2, frankly I think you need to sate what a top tier means to you...


2)You clearly misunderstand what I said. Let me explain something to you Luffy is not a soccer ball he is a rubber man and he can stretch and expand

My idea is Luffy just compresses G3 naturally into his normal hands and probably all over his body. Then if he throws a punch at the last minute he can decompress his fist so that it expands into a normal G3. The concept isn't out the realm for a rubber man to accomplish your making things difficult. I only add G2 into it so he has the speed along the power of G3. I never said G2 was involved in the process of Luffy compressing G3 so read first

Also we have seen compression and expansion techiques in OP aalready

1)Kuma Ursus Shock
2)Franky coup de vent
3)Zoan hybrids like Rob Lucci
4)Zoro Ni Gorilla(Muscle expansion)



So the concept is nothing new. Also you have to take into account this isn't a science class. This is anime where real world logics don't apply. If real world logics where in OP Luffy wouldn't be able to do G3 because its illogical in the realms of science

And I am saying this again Luffy cannot compress himself because he is rubber and if he does he will simply deflate... Logic does exist in One Piece to some extent... So your theory of Luffy compressing himself after going to g3 is impossible air would just come out of his body
 

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So you're actually not taking bakc your previous statement of saying G2 i very weak? But then again G2 can and will make Luffy beat top tiers like Doffy, Rob Lucci, A Pacifista.. well there are many more top tiers Luffy has beaten using G2, frankly I think you need to sate what a top tier means to you...




And I am saying this again Luffy cannot compress himself because he is rubber and if he does he will simply deflate... Logic does exist in One Piece to some extent... So your theory of Luffy compressing himself after going to g3 is impossible air would just come out of his body

I would love to hear your logics of why the air doesn't escape out of his G3 arm smarty pants..we are talking about a show where Sanji could set his body on fire and Zoro could multiply his limbs..Come on
 

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Gear 2nd-Very fast-Very weak
Gear 3rd-Very slow-Extremely powerful

Completely untrue. Luffys gear second gives a boost in luffys normal power(so not very weak), in addition to the speed. He certainly doesn't lose ANY power with gear second.

So here is more of like what he is.

Gear 1(base)- Fast. Strong. Normal area of effect.
Gear 2- Really really fast. Quite Strong. Normal/precise area of effect.
Gear 3- Slow. Really really Strong. Vast area of effect.


Also Im pretty sure that he has already used gear 2 and 3 at the same time already.


I do think you are thinking in the right direction as to a gear 4th.

I do think he may learn to compress the air in gear 3rd, to normal size. However Im not sure that will be gear 4th. The gears so far have been vastly different in how they work. I think gear 4th will be the same.

Very interesting thread, and theory.
 
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