[Discussion] Luffy's bounty not justified!!!!!!! RANT!

[chopstickchakra]

Loool ok then. I guess everyone who is allied together should recieve the same bounty. Cant wait for Cavendish, Bart, Sai, Orlumbus and the others to join in.

Like I said your opinion is irrelevant Luffy could have done many more things than Law and you can list them all out if you want to...but the WG sees them as an equal threat. Whats worse is Luffys lineage didnt even separate him from Law.

Well Law is a D and we know nothing of his lineage, I doubt we'll get anything on them but he could have some family history bumping his threat level up as well.

 

[KingHashirama]

Yup = threat to the WG.

Hence the " has the WG not learned that this dude is a bigger threat than Law and Ace?"

Doesn't take a genius to see Luffy is the most dangerous threat to the World government out of all the young pirates.

Well this whole ordeal was Law's plan
Law is accredited with being the leader of the alliance in the paper
Alabasta was covered up so that has no impact on his bounty
Ace was the son of Roger who is arguable as or more threatening to the WG since they hunted his son but never bothered to hunt Dragons
He hasn't allied with Rayleigh(unless training with someone now equals allying with them, hey everyone Mihawk allied with Zoro)
His involvement in MF gave the WG/Marines no reason to bump him up in bounty because he alone accomplished nothing. If it wasn't for Ivan's drugs he would've been done way earlier but all he showed in MF was he was barely able to not die at the hands of the likes of Mihawk. What does simply showing up do to bump his bounty, better yet explain what he did at MF that you feel warrants a bounty increase because simply being there and yelling you won't let anyone kill Ace doesn't cut it.

Well the thing with hunting Ace also involved them believing WB was trying to make Ace into the Pirate King as well. While Luffy hadn't done much at the start, and then Luffy was also Garp's grandson. But it is weird that they declare Dragon to be the most wanted man in the world, someone who is DIRECTLY opposing the WG, and is currently planning to overthrow it, or change it. Yet the son of a dead dude is worth more. Just doesn't make sense to me.

@Bold, yea he has.. It was kind of made clear the Dark King was on the Side of Monkey D. Luffy when he went with him to Marineford, and especially when he didn't make an appearance to the world in a long time.. and when he did, it was with Dragon's son.

When somebody attacks all 3 of your military points, and causes 3 strong people from your side to fall..... and allies himself with a guy who was second-in-command of the "pirate king".. You should get the hint that hes more dangerous.


Albasta might've been covered up for the media, but its naive to assume the WG doesn't know about it..

 

[ZoroXTashigi]

Well this whole ordeal was Law's plan
Law is accredited with being the leader of the alliance in the paper
Alabasta was covered up so that has no impact on his bounty
Ace was the son of Roger who is arguable as or more threatening to the WG since they hunted his son but never bothered to hunt Dragons
He hasn't allied with Rayleigh(unless training with someone now equals allying with them, hey everyone Mihawk allied with Zoro)
His involvement in MF gave the WG/Marines no reason to bump him up in bounty because he alone accomplished nothing. If it wasn't for Ivan's drugs he would've been done way earlier but all he showed in MF was he was barely able to not die at the hands of the likes of Mihawk. What does simply showing up do to bump his bounty, better yet explain what he did at MF that you feel warrants a bounty increase because simply being there and yelling you won't let anyone kill Ace doesn't cut it.

Even, if Luffy fairly weak pre TS, he still superior in accomplished than Law (same, fairly weak pre TS) when Law got bounty during TS 200 - 440 mill ... that some troll from Oda (I see it only due he have OOnM), because he become Shichi so he got his bounty on short time, it different with Kid, 315 - 470 mil, because he gain it in 2 years. Actually Law deserve it right for his bounty after dressrosa add 60 mil, but Luffy should got more than 100 mil.

 

[Karna]

You forgot 'son of Dragon'.

 

[KingHashirama]

Idk why people are mentioning, what WG thinks is a threat to them.. when the thread questions, whether the WG knows who is a bigger threat to them out of these people.. It questions the bounties put on the specific people.

You forgot 'son of Dragon'.

oh i just said "son of the most wanted criminal " XD

 

[Bogard]

Law had a frozen bounty as a shichibukai and got expelled from it(which increases his bounty) plus all the things he did in PH and Dressrosa. As for Ace, time will tell. You know nothing from his backstory

 

[ZoroXTashigi]

Idk why people are mentioning, what WG thinks is a threat to them.. when the thread questions, whether the WG knows who is a bigger threat to them out of these people.. It questions the bounties put on the specific people.



oh i just said "son of the most wanted criminal " XD

WG failed to see Chopper's true potential, so, I fairly sure WG failed to see Luffy's potential as well.

 

[Leaf19]

I guess the WG don't have much money to offer lml Jk jk xD

 

[chopstickchakra]

Hence the " has the WG not learned that this dude is a bigger threat than Law and Ace?"

Doesn't take a genius to see Luffy is the most dangerous threat to the World government out of all the young pirates.




Well the thing with hunting Ace also involved them believing WB was trying to make Ace into the Pirate King as well. While Luffy hadn't done much at the start, and then Luffy was also Garp's grandson. But it is weird that they declare Dragon to be the most wanted man in the world, someone who is DIRECTLY opposing the WG, and is currently planning to overthrow it, or change it. Yet the son of a dead dude is worth more. Just doesn't make sense to me.

@Bold, yea he has.. It was kind of made clear the Dark King was on the Side of Monkey D. Luffy when he went with him to Marineford, and especially when he didn't make an appearance to the world in a long time.. and when he did, it was with Dragon's son.

When somebody attacks all 3 of your military points, and causes 3 strong people from your side to fall..... and allies himself with a guy who was second-in-command of the "pirate king".. You should get the hint that hes more dangerous.


Albasta might've been covered up for the media, but its naive to assume the WG doesn't know about it..

No them hunting Ace was before he ever met WB, they hunted Ace as a fetus simply because of the thought of a baby carrying Roger's DNA threw them into a panic.

Aiding someone or believing in them/helping them isn't the same as allying with them. I do agree it's likely but we don't know for sure Rayleigh will help him again in the future so it's not really an alliance. You keep calling it an alliance but it's really the equivalent of Vivi, she's not allied with them in the eyes of the WG but he's allied with them in the eyes of the readers. Also I may be forgetting or mis-remembering some stuff but what was Rayleigh's involvement in MF? You said he went with him to MF but Luffy left for MF from ID and Rayleigh wasn't at ID. Rayleigh only showed up with him the 2nd time, and so did Jinbei so if that counts as allying with Rayleigh then you should also be including allied with 2 former shichibukai(Law & Jinbei) and a current one(Hancock, though not official either in the eyes of the WG)

"You should get the hint that hes more dangerous"
That's your impression as the reader, in the story it's not so, so Law must have done some stuff we don't know about during Luffy's training that really got into the Marine's heads. Maybe they found out he was a D? Consider that may be why he has such a high bounty? Just because we the reader just found out doesn't mean a character in the story hasn't figured it out already.

They do know about Alabasta but they'd have a hard time justifying his bounty increase on a situation they deny happening to the world therefore that feat is scrapped from his bounty figuring in their eyes.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Even, if Luffy fairly weak pre TS, he still superior in accomplished than Law (same, fairly weak pre TS) when Law got bounty during TS 200 - 440 mill ... that some troll from Oda (I see it only due he have OOnM), because he become Shichi so he got his bounty on short time, it different with Kid, 315 - 470 mil, because he gain it in 2 years. Actually Law deserve it right for his bounty after dressrosa add 60 mil, but Luffy should got more than 100 mil.

Laws bounty going from 200 to 440 isn't trolling when we know barely anything about his time during the skip. We know he gave the WG the hearts of 100 pirates that is sure to bump him up. Purely speculation but one of the marines may have discovered him being a D.

Like someone else mentioned you would have thought Law's bounty would go up more than 60 seeing as all the stuff he did as a shichibukai should now be fair game for bounty increases so his whole time as a shichibukai should also have been factored in to his new bounty growth not just Dressrosa and Punk Hazard.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Thing is, Luffy isn't really a threat to the WG or the Marines. Not directly. Yes, he does things that impact them negatively, but Luffy is not actively seeking out ways to hurt the WG. Luffy is literally just sailing and happens to get into scuffles. The only times Luffy has fought against Marines, or the WG, is if they started it. If Luffy was actively seeking to hurt them, his bounty would reflect that.

 

[Osmon]

What you gon do about it ? Just shut the hell up and enjoy the show or start another manga.

 

[Love Cook]

Also there is no point of raising it like crazy because no one can cash it in at this point. so it doesn't matter if its 500 or 700 million the number of people who can take doesn Luffy and crew are limited to a few schichibukai, the yonkou and the navy top and some unknown outliers maybe.

But all of them have better things to do then to risk their lives for the WG in return for a relativly small amount of money.

That's why Oda probably said that bounties don't rise as much after hitting 500M

 

[YellowFang]

I don't think WG wants to disclose this whole situation to the world... That's why Navy just raised the bounties for being there in Dressrosa at the chaotic times and not involved in any of the WG matters...

IMO Navy is hiding Luffy's action from WG...

P.S.
And hitting 500 mil. club already gives Luffy a fearful reputation...

 

[KingHashirama]

Law had a frozen bounty as a shichibukai and got expelled from it(which increases his bounty) plus all the things he did in PH and Dressrosa. As for Ace, time will tell. You know nothing from his backstory

@Bold, you do?

Also there is no point of raising it like crazy because no one can cash it in at this point. so it doesn't matter if its 500 or 700 million the number of people who can take doesn Luffy and crew are limited to a few schichibukai, the yonkou and the navy top and some unknown outliers maybe.

But all of them have better things to do then to risk their lives for the WG in return for a relativly small amount of money.

That's why Oda probably said that bounties don't rise as much after hitting 500M

Yea i get that point, however, that Ace's 550 mil bounty still annoys me. X_X

What you gon do about it ? Just shut the hell up and enjoy the show or start another manga.

Is this what you tell to every fan that tries to discuss things about the manga? Don't say anything about it, just shut up and enjoy it or start another manga.

Sounds like an idiotic thing to say.

Thing is, Luffy isn't really a threat to the WG or the Marines. Not directly. Yes, he does things that impact them negatively, but Luffy is not actively seeking out ways to hurt the WG. Luffy is literally just sailing and happens to get into scuffles. The only times Luffy has fought against Marines, or the WG, is if they started it. If Luffy was actively seeking to hurt them, his bounty would reflect that.

See thats where i disagree. Everything right now, he has done has been DIRECTLY against the WG.

Impel prison = WG's main prison = Luffy invades it for the first time in history.. kind of going directly against the Government.

Ennis Lobby = Luffy wrecks it for the first time in history, and openly declares "war" on the WG , going against the WG directly.

Marineford = Attacks it, and was pretty much one of the main reasons WB's army stood a chance (since he came in with people like Jimbei/Ivankov/revolutionaries/crocodile) and etc.

Hes the only Supernova who has done things Directly against the government.

WG = Robin's enemy = Luffy's enemy = directly against the WG.

Yes he doesn't go out seeking things to do against the WG. However, most of the things he has done, hes done it directly against the WG. And thats something we have not seen from Law or Ace.


Especially when you have the fact, he'll eventually join up with his Daddy.

 

[shivjee]

In OP world knowledge is more important than brute strength
so you see law is more knowlegible than luffy that will hurt WG

 

[keshav31]

Blah, i'm so displeased with the new chapter in regards to the whole bounty being equal to Law's.. and then being less than Ace's.

I mean for ****'s sake, has the WG not learned that this dude is a bigger threat than Law and Ace? I mean you know after:
-attacking Marineford, Ennis Lobby, Impel prison
- and then taking down 3 Warlords
- allying with the Dark King (A guy who was right under the bloody Pirate King himself)
- being the son of the most wanted criminal
- AND showing twice how the WG fails in protecting the country's under it.. first being albasta and now being the second one.
- Brother of the guy who they were trying to kill for being Roger's son or w.e

YOU WOULD THINK THE WG WOULD CONSIDER HIM A HIGHER THREAT. I was going for luffy's bounty at 600 mil now, and then staying there until he takes down a yonko or something. But I guess not, hes lesser than a guy who hasn't had any feats to compare him to luffy (as far as threat goes), and to a guy who also hasn't done much against the WG directly unlike Luffy.

Oh wait, let me not forget the slap on face he delivered to the WG with the whole Marineford's flower incident with him jimbei and rayleigh.

Well Zoro raised by 200mil And luffy 100 mil kind of stuck otherwise WG has seen LAW & Luffy(due to alliance) as Equal.Also Law is 440mil before so he get a 60 mil increase.But luffy 550mil can be justified.

 

[Relostar Devil]

Lmao...so rustled. Its funny Law is just as much as a threat despite Luffy having the family advantage.

Its true but in this scenario, law deserves to have equal bounty as luffys bcoz navy knows that he had connection with doffy in the past and he is a shichibukai and supernova, so having an equal or more bounty than luffy is most likely perfect

Yea i get that point, however, that Ace's 550 mil bounty still annoys me. X_X

Has it shown in the series somewhere??

Thing is, Luffy isn't really a threat to the WG or the Marines. Not directly. Yes, he does things that impact them negatively, but Luffy is not actively seeking out ways to hurt the WG. Luffy is literally just sailing and happens to get into scuffles. The only times Luffy has fought against Marines, or the WG, is if they started it. If Luffy was actively seeking to hurt them, his bounty would reflect that.

Enies lobby,Impel down,Marineford,Supernova,D,Dragon's son,Doffy(CD),Croco. and Gecko (Disrupting the Shichibukai system). Isn't it more than enough!!!

 

[ArabianLuffy]

*On Sunny, the club of pirates with over 100 million beri founded by Usopp celebrating their new bounties*

Usopp: Yosh! I'm Captain Usopp, founder of the pirates with bounties over 100 million beri club announce this club to be official.
Zoro: You always run the battles like a *****. I'm kinda disappointed with this new bounty, but it's better than being lower than a cook who even didn't surpass this weakling's bounty.
Sanji: What did you say?
Usopp: Who's weakling, you bastard?
Luffy: *laughing*
Robin: *giggles*
Zoro: You heard me. Oh that's right. You're no longer one of the monster trio.
Sanji: What the hell this long nose did to get a bounty higher than mine?

*On the other side outside the club. Nami, Chopper, Franky and Brook sucking their thumbs*

Franky: That bastard, long nose. Getting full of himself. Why? Why him?
Brook: Yo hohoho. Usopp-san is really something.
Nami: I didn't ask for troubles. And yet this incident. I knew something like this will happen. T_T
Chopper: T___T

 

[KingHashirama]

The whole Usopp having a higher bounty than Sanji is BS as well. x-x.