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Idunno if you're underrating Luffy or overrating Marco. G4 Luffy was beating the living crap out of Doffy even with is long range attacks and going on defensive mode. Dude's strings couldn't even harm Luffy whats so ever. G4 Luffy has far more impressive feats than anything Marco has done. G4 Luffy > Marco, but with is healing powers, haki, and has better aerial battle he will out last G4 and win high diff.
Luffy cant hurt Marco. Theres really no argument here. He literally stands there and lets Luffy attack him to his content laughs it off and then craps on him when G4 runs out.

Not 1 Admiral actually managed to properly damage Marco with his regen in tact. Kizaru sent tons of beams through him which did nothing. It cant be a high diff fight when one has no means of hurting the other.
 

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Luffy cant hurt Marco. Theres really no argument here. He literally stands there and lets Luffy attack him to his content laughs it off and then craps on him when G4 runs out.

Not 1 Admiral actually managed to properly damage Marco with his regen in tact. Kizaru sent tons of beams through him which did nothing. It cant be a high diff fight when one has no means of hurting the other.
Lol that's not how his abilities work, you can hurt him otherwise no one can beat him.

Garp bruised him with his punch, it doesn't look like he can heal from attacks with haki or he has a limit to how much he can regen otherwise he will be invincible
 

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Lol that's not how his abilities work, you can hurt him otherwise no one can beat him.

Garp bruised him with his punch, it doesn't look like he can heal from attacks with haki or he has a limit to how much he can regen otherwise he will be invincible
No that is how it works. Only way to start wearing him down is his regen starts to cap out...which I am assuming is linked to his stamina. In the war we didnt see that limit...how long does G4 last? Its safe to assume Luffy wont be seeing that limit Marco through power scaling should be able to fight for multiple days. How other Admirals would beat him is that since Marcos attack is lacking the fight would drag for days on days until Marcos limit starts showing then they take him out.

Garps punch gave him a little scratch. Garp should have the strongest haki punch in the series. Maybe the stronger G4 attacks scratch him slightly...thats about it.
 

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Vs Ace: Luffy mid diff...
Vs Marco: Marco mid diff...
Vs Law: Luffy mid-high diff... (G4 could neg him literally, 2-3 Kong hits are more than enough)
Vs Jinbei: Luffy mid-high diff... (Near water, high diff./ Under water, mid diff. Jinbei)
 

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No that is how it works. Only way to start wearing him down is his regen starts to cap out...which I am assuming is linked to his stamina. In the war we didnt see that limit...how long does G4 last? Its safe to assume Luffy wont be seeing that limit Marco through power scaling should be able to fight for multiple days. How other Admirals would beat him is that since Marcos attack is lacking the fight would drag for days on days until Marcos limit starts showing then they take him out.

Garps punch gave him a little scratch. Garp should have the strongest haki punch in the series. Maybe the stronger G4 attacks scratch him slightly...thats about it.
Thanks Oda for telling me how his powers work.

You're comparing Garp's weakest non armament haki punch to Luffy's KKG?? Every G4 attack is stronger than that punch by Garp(he wasn't using all is strength obviously), if Garp's punch did damage than so can Luffys
 

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And the Luffy underestimation continues...

He wins them all except maybe from Marco. Marcos regen obviously has a limit somewhere, I wish Marco wankers would quit using that no limit fallacy logic with his powers.

Its funny though, Luffy was holding his own with just G2 against Fujitora and was still not 100% recovered as shown by the bandages. He managed to get blown away by Fujitora but the attack did nothing to Luffy despite the attack cracking the area around him.

What has any of these characters done to even say they are stronger than Luffy? Marco has crap offense compared to Luffy, the only reason I would even say Marco may win is because we dont know the limit to how much he can regenerate damage.

This mid diff crap is BS, even after Luffys skirmish with Fuji people are still saying dumb crap like this? There is really no help for the bias of the OP community. If it was another character that fought as well as Luffy did with Fuji and was holding back he would be wanked out of his ass.
 
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And the Luffy underestimation continues...

He wins them all except maybe from Marco. Marcos regen obviously has a limit somewhere, I wish Marco wankers would quit using that no limit fallacy logic with his powers.

Its funny though, Luffy was holding his own with just G2 against Fujitora and was still not 100% recovered as shown by the bandages. He managed to get blown away by Fujitora but the attack did nothing to Luffy despite the attack cracking the area around him.

What has any of these characters done to even say they are stronger than Luffy? Marco has crap offense compared to Luffy, the only reason I would even say Marco may win is because we dont know the limit to how much he can regenerate damage.

This mid diff crap is BS, even after Luffys skirmish with Fuji people are still saying dumb crap like this? There is really no help for the bias of the OP community. If it was another character that fought as well as Luffy did with Fuji and was holding back he would be wanked out of his ass.
lol calm down a bit. Luffy would give an Admiral a tougher fight than Marco simply because you need time to beat Marco which Luffy doesn't have in G4. If he didn't reach his limit the entire war, not taking damage by the likes of Akainu and Kizaru, then Luffy is certainly not gonna bring Marco to his limit. Can't be any higher than mid diff.

Personally I believe Luffy can fight close to an Admirals level during G4. But even that is not enough against Marco proven in Marineford.

Thanks Oda for telling me how his powers work.

You're comparing Garp's weakest non armament haki punch to Luffy's KKG?? Every G4 attack is stronger than that punch by Garp(he wasn't using all is strength obviously), if Garp's punch did damage than so can Luffys
KKG is only one attack in G4, and armament hardening didn't exist pre timeskip.
 

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lol calm down a bit. Luffy would give an Admiral a tougher fight than Marco simply because you need time to beat Marco which Luffy doesn't have in G4. If he didn't reach his limit the entire war, not taking damage by the likes of Akainu and Kizaru, then Luffy is certainly not gonna bring Marco to his limit. Can't be any higher than mid diff.

Personally I believe Luffy can fight close to an Admirals level during G4. But even that is not enough against Marco proven in Marineford.
Fine, I will leave it at that for now. The next arc or two Luffy will probably be stronger than Marco anyways considering he's going to need to be stronger than a Yonko FM if he hopes to beat Kaido.

No doubt Kaidos FM should be of similar strength to Marco as well.
 

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Luffy vs Ace - Luffy mid diffs

Luffy vs Marco - Marco mid-high diffs

Luffy vs Law - Luffy mid diffs

Luffy vs Jinbei - Luffy mid diffs
 

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nor could luffy at least he could defend his attacks and didnt ran away like a pu**y.
Before time skip, Luffy dint have haki which could help him land a blow on Logia's so if u matched against Logia types who doesn't have Natural weakness except Haki the only thing to do is Run....now I don't see Luffy Running away from anyone....so Marco is jst overestimated, I blv Jozu is stronger than him, he was 1st commander becouse of trust not strength, even Jozu has done well fightin Admirals more than we can say abour Marco.
 

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Cause Luffy cant scratch Marco. Pretty obvious and its not going past mid diff thats being generous.
Its ovious to people who doesn't open up there mind, Marco is pretty much a Doflamingo level and Luffy Racked him, Marco almost lost his face from Garps Punch that was his weakest, and u telling me he can take 10 Gear 4 punch nd King Kong of Luffy Unschafed....if Luffy decide to beat the Crap out of him, that's what he wil do even with his powers, coz that's what he did to stronger oppenent than he was, it also seemed impossible for Luffy to beat Crocodile remember.
 

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Personally I believe Luffy can fight close to an Admirals level during G4. But even that is not enough against Marco proven in Marineford.
I would say that's overestimating G4. Aokiji frove Doflamingo casually, true he broke from it a few seconds later but Aokiji could've shattered him during that time. G4 was beating Doflamingo for a long period of time but he still couldn't defeat him and I don't see Doffy lasting longer than a few minutes if an admiral gained an upper hand against him(which they would always have). And that is considering you mean if G4 is really close to Admiral level.
 

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Luffy vs Ace: Luffy high diff

Luffy vs Marco: Marco mid-diff

Luffy vs Law: Could go either way, extreme diff for both.

Luffy vs Jimbei: Luffy mid-high diff if on land. If at sea (like Don Krieg fight) it could go either way.
 

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I would say that's overestimating G4. Aokiji frove Doflamingo casually, true he broke from it a few seconds later but Aokiji could've shattered him during that time. G4 was beating Doflamingo for a long period of time but he still couldn't defeat him and I don't see Doffy lasting longer than a few minutes if an admiral gained an upper hand against him(which they would always have). And that is considering you mean if G4 is really close to Admiral level.
You're underestimating Doffy, especially @bold . Aokiji had the upper hand when he froze him but he broke out with zero difficulty, and no Aokiji couldn't have smashed him in that time he broke out way too fast and wasn't even frozen to the core. Doffy vs any Admiral would be mid to high diff depending on which admiral. Matter of fact Doffy did better against g2/g3 Luffy then Fujitora did.

G4 Luffy was wrecking Doffy low diff. Doffy couldn't do anything to Luffy, so yeah G4 is admiral level.
 

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You're underestimating Doffy, especially @bold . Aokiji had the upper hand when he froze him but he broke out with zero difficulty, and no Aokiji couldn't have smashed him in that time he broke out way too fast and wasn't even frozen to the core. Doffy vs any Admiral would be mid to high diff depending on which admiral. Matter of fact Doffy did better against g2/g3 Luffy then Fujitora did.

G4 Luffy was wrecking Doffy low diff. Doffy couldn't do anything to Luffy, so yeah G4 is admiral level.
He could've, we even had some dialogue from side characters during that time and considering the speed of characters in Opverse it shouldn't have been a problem. Even if his heart wasn't froven, Aokiji froze pretty much the entirety of him and breaking most of his body was an easy task for Kuzan.

G2/G3 did nothing to Fujitora.

No it isn't. It's is game over for Doflamingo if Akainu lands one magma fist on him which is possible considering he could do that against the likes of Whitebeard after getting blindfolded and here even after getting beat up from G4 for about 50 minutes Doflamingo still stood back up.
 

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He could've, we even had some dialogue from side characters during that time and considering the speed of characters in Opverse it shouldn't have been a problem. Even if his heart wasn't froven, Aokiji froze pretty much the entirety of him and breaking most of his body was an easy task for Kuzan.

G2/G3 did nothing to Fujitora.

No it isn't. It's is game over for Doflamingo if Akainu lands one magma fist on him which is possible considering he could do that against the likes of Whitebeard after getting blindfolded and here even after getting beat up from G4 for about 50 minutes Doflamingo still stood back up.
No he couldn't, Aokiji froze him baby 5 and Buffalo screamed his name and he broke out.

I never said g2/g3 did anything to Fujitora, I said Doffy did better against g2/g3 Luffy.

That same magma fist that was blocked by how many ppl during the mf war? If you really think an admiral can one shot someone like Doffy idunno what to say man.
 
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