[VS] Luffy vs Megellan

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Luffy and Rusukaina Beast (Lion, Gorilla, Crocodile, Elephant)
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The animals are irrelevant so it's Luffy v Magellan. Post skip Luffy strength(no G4) vs Magellan to be accurate. Idk hard to say without seeing something new from Magellan I would say, the poison should be a non issue this time around. So it's a question of strength, Luffy previously wasn't strong enough so the question boils down to how much stronger is Luffy now then he was pre skip without considering gear boosts. I don't think we've really seen that answer yet, so given what we know possibly Magellan high-extreme diff, given the growth we should expect from Luffy, probably Luffy high-extreme diff. Again can't really say with any conviction one way or the other though.
 

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The animals are irrelevant so it's Luffy v Magellan. Post skip Luffy strength(no G4) vs Magellan to be accurate. Idk hard to say without seeing something new from Magellan I would say, the poison should be a non issue this time around. So it's a question of strength, Luffy previously wasn't strong enough so the question boils down to how much stronger is Luffy now then he was pre skip without considering gear boosts. I don't think we've really seen that answer yet, so given what we know possibly Magellan high-extreme diff, given the growth we should expect from Luffy, probably Luffy high-extreme diff. Again can't really say with any conviction one way or the other though.
I think the animals do play a factor. Luffy was able to KO the awaken zone users, but seriously struggled against the animals of Rusukaina Island. That would make me believe that the Island animals are far more powerful than the Zoan users. If thats the case then that would make the battle 5 on 1. The biggest factor diffeence that Luffy would have now that he wouldnt have had then would be is Armandment Haki. I have no doubt that Megellan would KO luffy's beast with poison, but would Luffy's haki make the difference here or would Demon Road be far to much even for luffy's resistance?
 

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Recent chapters have shown that Luffy is not immune to poisons, his body is just highly resistant. Having the poison fruit, Magellan should be able to simply create new strains and combinations that Luffy's body wouldn't have familiarity and resistance too. Being that Luffy is a close-range fighter, he's still at a disadvantage. I'd say Magellan high diff.
 

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Recent chapters have shown that Luffy is not immune to poisons, his body is just highly resistant. Having the poison fruit, Magellan should be able to simply create new strains and combinations that Luffy's body wouldn't have familiarity and resistance too. Being that Luffy is a close-range fighter, he's still at a disadvantage. I'd say Magellan high diff.
Do you think his Busoshoku Haki would slide the battle into his (Luffy) favor seeing how it helped him against Ceasar?
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Do you think his Busoshoku Haki would slide the battle into his (Luffy) favor seeing how it helped him against Ceasar?
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I'm positive that was his immunity to Caesar's poison as opposed to the Busoshoku. And while it would offer protection for his skin, there's still fumes to think about.
 

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I think the animals do play a factor. Luffy was able to KO the awaken zone users, but seriously struggled against the animals of Rusukaina Island. That would make me believe that the Island animals are far more powerful than the Zoan users. If thats the case then that would make the battle 5 on 1. The biggest factor diffeence that Luffy would have now that he wouldnt have had then would be is Armandment Haki. I have no doubt that Megellan would KO luffy's beast with poison, but would Luffy's haki make the difference here or would Demon Road be far to much even for luffy's resistance?
If you know Magellan would just KO the Rusukaina beasts then why would it be 5 on 1? Luffy and Magellan would each eliminate the other's animals right off the bat. They're definitely stronger than the ID Zoans imo but they're not stronger than Magellan imo so they'd be a non issue.

Recent chapters have shown that Luffy is not immune to poisons, his body is just highly resistant. Having the poison fruit, Magellan should be able to simply create new strains and combinations that Luffy's body wouldn't have familiarity and resistance too. Being that Luffy is a close-range fighter, he's still at a disadvantage. I'd say Magellan high diff.
Not ALL poisons but I thought it was said or heavily implied after two dosings from Magellan Luffy was now resistant/immune to his poison? Correct me if I'm wrong but that's what I'm remembering.
 

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If you know Magellan would just KO the Rusukaina beasts then why would it be 5 on 1? Luffy and Magellan would each eliminate the other's animals right off the bat. They're definitely stronger than the ID Zoans imo but they're not stronger than Magellan imo so they'd be a non issue.



Not ALL poisons but I thought it was said or heavily implied after two dosings from Magellan Luffy was now resistant/immune to his poison? Correct me if I'm wrong but that's what I'm remembering.
I don't see Magellan as having one type of poison. I'm pretty sure the reason his red poison was slated to be so dangerous was because he mixed a lot of types together, so no one cure could ever be made because the combination of poisons was too extensive.
 

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If we go back through a realistic perspective, with no bias, and literal manga context...
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Luffy has a nice walk in the park.
 

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If we go back through a realistic perspective, with no bias, and literal manga context...
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Luffy has a nice walk in the park.
That wasn't luffy that did that to Magellan, that was BB and crew, Shiryu, and the level 6 escapees when they left impel down. When luffy escaped, magellan was still perfectly ok.

OT: I agree with Riker here. Without anything like candle walls, luffy's best result is gonna be a tie because even if he hits megellan with G4, the poison will still get him. But I think that if Magellan is smart, he could stop luffy before he even enters G4.
 
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That wasn't luffy that did that to Magellan, that was BB and crew, Shiryu, and the level 6 escapees when they left impel down. When luffy escaped, magellan was still perfectly ok.

OT: I agree with Riker here. Without anything like candle walls, luffy's best result is gonna be a tie because even if he hits megellan with G4, the poison will still get him. But I think that if Magellan is smart, he could stop luffy before he even enters G4.
And where did you get this from? He certainly was not okay, you don't get hit from gear 3 and say that you're o.k from it. He pushed him back pretty far. Shiryuu and Blackbeard left the impel down immediately to the marineford otherwise he wouldn't make it on time to kill whitebeard. If Blackbeard was really responsible for Magellan he would've beaten the crap out of him when they first met. Instead he just went about his way, he didn't even fight Crocodile or Jinbei either.
 

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And where did you get this from? He certainly was not okay, you don't get hit from gear 3 and say that you're o.k from it. He pushed him back pretty far. Shiryuu and Blackbeard left the impel down immediately to the marineford otherwise he wouldn't make it on time to kill whitebeard. If Blackbeard was really responsible for Magellan he would've beaten the crap out of him when they first met. Instead he just went about his way, he didn't even fight Crocodile or Jinbei either.
From the manga.

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Next page Magellan gets up just fine
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He is is about to get to them when Ivankov blasts them all away with hell wink. You can bet BB et. al. didn't escape without fighting him.

BB lost the first time because he didn't expect that attack to be poison. The intel and the fact that shiryuu has the antidote changes things up the second time. it was stated that shiryuu was equal to magellan, so even if it was just shiryuu, it would have been a bad fight on Magellans end, but with BB all his crew and all the other escapees he didn't really stand a chance. Also BB did arrive at marineford a good while after luffy got there.
 
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From the manga.

Luffy's giganto stamp
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Next page Magellan gets up just fine
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He is is about to get to them when Ivankov blasts them all away with hell wink. You can bet BB et. al. didn't escape without fighting him.
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Bon-chan confirmed to have defeated magellan lol.

But seriously, that proves that. Haha I should have kept going when I was looking back at that chapter.
 

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From the manga.

Luffy's giganto stamp
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Next page Magellan gets up just fine
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He is is about to get to them when Ivankov blasts them all away with hell wink. You can bet BB et. al. didn't escape without fighting him.

BB lost the first time because he didn't expect that attack to be poison. The intel and the fact that shiryuu has the antidote changes things up the second time. it was stated that shiryuu was equal to magellan, so even if it was just shiryuu, it would have been a bad fight on Magellans end, but with BB all his crew and all the other escapees he didn't really stand a chance. Also BB did arrive at marineford a good while after luffy got there.
I forgot that poison glue was protecting him from direct impact otherwise Magellan would've been done for. And BB never lost to Magellan, in fact he never engaged with him in a fight because it would've been painfully one-sided. But what I want to know is where did you get the information that BB fought Magellan? Because they still need to get pass that gate before through Magellan's instructions. And BB already got his crew before Luffy made the final escape, so personally I don't think BB and his crew is responsible unless you have some evidence?
 

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I forgot that poison glue was protecting him from direct impact otherwise Magellan would've been done for. And BB never lost to Magellan, in fact he never engaged with him in a fight because it would've been painfully one-sided. But what I want to know is where did you get the information that BB fought Magellan? Because they still need to get pass that gate before through Magellan's instructions. And BB already got his crew before Luffy made the final escape, so personally I don't think BB and his crew is responsible unless you have some evidence?
It is just inference. Sengoku said he was beaten to within half an inch of his life. It certainly wasn't luffy. And there are no other prisoners capable of beating him except those in BB crew, shiryuu, and the level 6 escapees. When luffy escaped, BB was gathering his new crew. They still had to leave somehow, Magellan isn't gonna let them walk out now was he. So in order for BB to have gotten to Marineford, he would have to have fought his way out. Unless he sneaked out but then who would have beaten Magellan? So logically, after BB was done gathering his crew, and he went to leave, he fought Magellan. To get out the gate they simply do what they did to get into Marineford's gate, Laffitte hypnotizes a guard to do it when they leave. Or they just leave the gates open because all the guards are dead or to beaten to move.
 
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It is just inference. Sengoku said he was beaten to within half an inch of his life. It certainly wasn't luffy. And there are no other prisoners capable of beating him except those in BB crew, shiryuu, and the level 6 escapees. When luffy escaped, BB was gathering his new crew. They still had to leave somehow, Magellan isn't gonna let them walk out now was he. So in order for BB to have gotten to Marineford, he would have to have fought his way out. Unless he sneaked out but then who would have beaten Magellan? So logically, after BB was done gathering his crew, and he went to leave, he fought Magellan. To get out the gate they simply do what they did to get into Marineford's gate, Laffitte hypnotizes a guard to do it when they leave. Or they just leave the gates open because all the guards are dead or to beaten to move.
To me it seems that the rest of the level six impel down members were responsible for beating him half to death. One warden can't take on that many dangerous people at once, a small group of them he could.
And Magellan was going to let them walk out, just like Boa Hancock leave too. BB was a shichibakui, he wasn't suppose to touch BB in the first place. But I see your point on why you would think it's him.
 
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