[Discussion] Luffy vs Law

[Hexuze]

Even after gear 4th, I don't see Luffy owning Law lol. Law high-extreme diff.

 

[Anduril]

Luffy would probably not need gear 4 with law.
But Law does have a Hax fruit, can go either way.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Luffy is the main character, not Law

His strength will increase at a faster rate, that wouldn't make since for a formerly weaker rival to get stronger than the main character somehow

That's like Coby high diffing Luffy when he first saw him again

So you want a Manga without rivals?

Cobys strength will grow the fastest, wouldn't be surprised if he's currently around Franky's level

Law and Kidd and Luffy parallel Whitebeard, Shiki and Roger respectively. They're bound to be incredibly close in power. I don't see the problem with Law introducing a new technique that brings him up to Luffy's level again. I didn't say he'd be superior to Luffy, I said "close the gap" i.e. almost match his strength

 

[A v i]

Zoro fought someone who was trying to stall entire colloseem fighters and also someone who didn't want to fight him Doffy is way stronger then any of his family by big margin... Law also fought fuji and doffy at same time and damaged Doffy something luffy has honestly failed to do (until next chapter).. luffys attacks via gear 2 and 3 r if not stronger then zoro attacks r on same level and those attacks literally tickled Doffy... Even with haki infused...
Law and luffy (via gear 4 and gattling gear three) are a margin above zoro

He don't want to fight Zoro? That's clearly nonsense. He was playing hide and seek because he can't do anything against Zoro. Zoro destroyed Pica's golem head on and defeated Pica's strongest form so I don't even get how this point is even relevant. It's not like Law did anything outstanding against Joker. Everything he managed to do was to get beaten by him. He managed to land blows on him only because of mind games and all.

Zoro as a swordsman is well above Law and so are his physical traits. So Zoro can do much better in close range fights against Joker than Law. Joker himself said that Luffy lacks speed while using big moves and power while using faster moves. Zoro has both strong moves as well as faster string rate so in other words, Zoro can use big moves without any struggle like Luffy.

Luffy certainly a level above Zoro from what we have seen so far but again Zoro has yet to go all out. Pica to Zoro is like Hody to Luffy. So I doubt Zoro displayed everything he can do against Pica as he's literally now match for Zoro. Law gets totally out classed by G4 just like Zoro. From what we have seen so far Law is as competent as Zoro. Law might win because of drawbacks of G4. I mean it takes time for Luffy to enter G4 means while Law has more than enough opening to kill Luffy. Same goes for Zoro, if Law takes away his swords then it's over for Zoro. Regardless of who wins against who Law and Zoro as fighters at this point are closer to each other.

He hasn't fought anybody impressive since timeskip which both luffy and law have.... (Not including fuji wasn't a fight at all was a decent feat going against gravity tho.)I agree zoro is strong but he is not on either of these two level with feats shown (not including asura till he uses it again)..

Kizaru doesn't needed to fight another admiral to prove that he's strong like wise you don't have to fight people that are so strong to prove yourself to be strong. Pica is strong ,if you forgot about his defeat against Zoro and think about his abilities,you'll realize how strong he really is. He can potentially kill every single participant of tournament that went after Joker. Pica VS every single opponent of SH's at FMI. He can kill them all like nothing. In other words Pica is not weak ,it's just that Zoro is too strong.

It''s not like Law's performance against Joker was outstanding or anything to think we can't compare Zoro with Law. Zoro basically more or less replicated Law's best move in manga without going all out. I don't remember people calling Vergo weak when he was easily defeated by Law. Instead they called Law too strong but when Zoro basically did the same for some reason it has an opposite effect. People tend to take it as Pica's haki is just too weak which is totally illogical.

Sure his haki lacks feats so that leaves an opening for so many possibilities.
1) His haki is stronger than Vergo's

If stronger

A. His haki is barely above Vergo.
B. His haki is far above Vergo.

2) Vergo's haki is stronger than that of Pica.

If Vergo's haki is better then

A.His haki a bit better.
B. His haki is far better.

3. They're more or less on par with each other.

Vergo was shown to be a proficient haki user and has better portrayal & hype with haki than Pica with haki so it's logical to assume that Vergo has better haki than Pica. Remember we're assuming that he's a better haki user because it's an educated opinion and is closer to being true not because it was a fact. Coming to Pica, though he was fruit user he shown to have more faith in his haki than his fruit. He was confidant about beating Zoro even after witnessing how pathetically his fruit failed against Zoro. Pica himself put his mastery over haki well above his mastery over his fruit. He is clearly a proficient fruit user, being able to control his fruit to that degree is quite a feat yet he put his haki over his fruit which hints that he has decent mastery over haki so his haki is far from being weak.

So based on the information we have got from manga, only thing we can say with confidence would be that Vergo's haki is better than that of Pica. But saying his haki is far above that of Pica is a bit far fetched and totally illogical. Zoro easily defeated Pica so Joker being above Pica doesn't effect Zoro's power level.

Also law hasn't gone all out as u can c every time he makes a move on Doffy he uses something different from invisible rooms to gamma knife etc Idk why all of u ppl keep saying law has gone all out ... No proof of this he's just tired from fighting an admiral and an almost admiral level fighter and getting shot so many times..

He clearly went all out & even admitted that he did everything he could. He choose to go for cunning moves as he clearly understands the fact that he can't go head on against Joker. G.knife was Law's trump card so Law has nothing to show us.

We don't see it cuz it's Zoro fans wanking.
Vergo>Pica and Luffy>Law>>Zoro. Deal with it or keeping spreading your bs and make a bigger fool out of yourself.

Words of someone who tries to look cool by calling others fanboys whenever he can't prove others wrong.

Luffy would probably not need gear 4 with law.
But Law does have a Hax fruit, can go either way.

Law clearly beats any version below G4. Law gets totally outclassed by G4 though.


If Law VS Luffy were to happen Luffy needs G4 to win but I doubt Law'd let him go for it. In other words it comes down to whether Luffy can enter G4 or not. Law is clearly weaker than Luffy but I doubt Luffy will get a chance to use his full power against Law as Law won't stand there and do nothing while Luffy is preparing for G4.

 

[skygoku]

luffy extreme diff not really sure though law a tatical genius but we can't really say what strategy he would come up with luffy has better feats but Law display better battle prowess and is very tactical luffy 5.5 out of 10 times

 

[arv993]

luffy at this point wins high diff, law's performaamce against dofla says it all, luffy is too fast and powerful in gear 4. law will get stronger but now luffy has him beat.