[VS] Luffy vs Kid

[Vandenre1ch]

They were both injured, but between being injured by Bellamy hits and being injured by Law's hax, it's not even comparable. I'd say Luffy was at 90% when Doffy was about 70% at the beginning if not less. But he was far more dangerous, powerful and serious against Luffy with his awakening and other powerful string abilities than he ever was even at 100% when he was dicking around with Law and it's the comparison i was trying to make here to show how in G4, Luffy is simply in a different league than Law. Obviously he can't defeat full health Doffy quick enough at this point with the timelimit though, but it doesn't matter in the comparison between Luffy and Law

Doffy directly said Luffy had one foot in the grave already with his injuries before G4 was used. Luffy fought Bellamy and Puppet Doffy t the same time and the attacks were making him cough blood. Lufy was nowhere near 100% and neither was Doffy. Bottom line is that even when they were injured, Doffy still would've won without using DF awakening.

 

[Bogard]

Doffy directly said Luffy had one foot in the grave already with his injuries before G4 was used. Luffy fought Bellamy and Puppet Doffy t the same time and the attacks were making him cough blood. Lufy was nowhere near 100% and neither was Doffy. Bottom line is that even when they were injured, Doffy still would've won without using DF awakening.

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Besides, Luffy said the pressure was on Mingo:

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And Doffy added:

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You said you won't let Law's attack go to waste?

All this suggest that Doffy was the more damaged one

 

[Vandenre1ch]

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Besides, Luffy said the pressure was on Mingo:

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And Doffy added:

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You said you won't let Law's attack go to waste?

All this suggest that Doffy was the more damaged one

Doffy was more damaged? Obviously. Never said he wasn't. I was just saying Luffy was injured as well. I was still saying that Doffy would've won if it weren't for all those distractions getting in his way.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Doffy was more damaged? Obviously. Never said he wasn't. I was just saying Luffy was injured as well. I was still saying that Doffy would've won if it weren't for all those distractions getting in his way.

Luffy's injuries were superfluous that didn't come from Doffy or Black Knight were superfluous.

 

[saw2097]

I am not sure about Kidd, but I would say its pretty obvious that Luffy would tear Law apart in Gear 4, Doflamingo basically had to go all out against Gear 4 and was still pushed against the ropes, but against Law Doflamingo toyed with him like he was a child.

Kidd is going to be interesting, and my suspicion is that he will be Luffy's primary rival until Luffy gets strong enough to actually counter Blackbeard who is basically his primary nemesis in the manga along with Akainu.

 

[ArabianLuffy]

I honestly don't see how Kidd could at least do some damage on Luffy. Magnet. Rubber. Physical Attacks < Rubber. Swords. It's just that Luffy would simply need to... haki up.

 

[Love Cook]

Somehow this turned into Luffy vs Doffy.

I thought this arc made it pretty obvious that neither Law nor Luffy can win on their own against Doflamingo.

Luffy needed the help of practically everybody on the island to help him win. That doesn't take away from the victory because Doflamingo applied the same strategy with his family, string control and his game.

But in a fair one on one Luffy would be screwed hard against Doffy. And possibly even against Law if he doesn't figure the room out.

Luffy got carried this arc.

Meaning the gap between him and other SN like Kidd might not be as big as you think.

 

[TRE MERCER]

KID is most likely stronger than Luffy.​

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Somehow this turned into Luffy vs Doffy.

I thought this arc made it pretty obvious that neither Law nor Luffy can win on their own against Doflamingo.

Luffy needed the help of practically everybody on the island to help him win. That doesn't take away from the victory because Doflamingo applied the same strategy with his family, string control and his game.

But in a fair one on one Luffy would be screwed hard against Doffy. And possibly even against Law if he doesn't figure the room out.

Luffy got carried this arc.

Meaning the gap between him and other SN like Kidd might not be as big as you think.

Agree with love cook

 

[A v i]

Luffy spent whole two years just to gain strength unlike any other supernova and his potential as a fighter is next to none of them so it's only logical to think that Luffy is the strongest as of now.

 

[keshav31]

Pretimeskip his attack power was greater than Luffy's. I expect he would be pulling islands now XD

Islands can't be repel except which has iron ore but that would any need strength like WB which is not possible.He can attract & repel iron.Luffy will win as luffy fight bear handed not with any weapon.So he can attack without loosing any power

 

[Professor Finesser]

Law=Luffy=Kidd imo.

This. People are severely over-estimating Gear Fourth, but seem to forget that Law has attacks like Gamma Knife which would one shot Luffy before he even got the chance to use G4.

I'm hype to see what Kidd got up his sleeve. If they were to fight right now I think they would stalemate based on hype.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Pretimeskip his attack power was greater than Luffy's. I expect he would be pulling islands now XD

You made up everything in this post.

 

[chopstickchakra]

We don't know much about Kid i know, but do you think Luffy is already the strongest supernova yet or do you feel Kid will be shown to be stronger? Basically hype or estimations are allowed in this thread

I think there is no one strongest at this point. Kidd's power is magnetism so he has an advantage over the likes of Law and Killer who use blades, but someone like Luffy who uses brute strength is a bad match up for him. I think Apoo may be a bad match for Kid as well. Capone is a bad match for Kidd but I think he's a good match for Drake because of all the weapons he has, he has to have something big enough for a dinosaur.

 

[saw2097]

This. People are severely over-estimating Gear Fourth, but seem to forget that Law has attacks like Gamma Knife which would one shot Luffy before he even got the chance to use G4.

I'm hype to see what Kidd got up his sleeve. If they were to fight right now I think they would stalemate based on hype.

Except he actually has to land the hit, he could kill anyone if he stabbed them with a real knife too in the right spot, at the end of the day Gamma Knife is a overhyped attack.

By this argument anyone with sharp objects could kill Luffy, but Luffy has fought and beaten people who use weapons and other similar attacks and he beat them.

 

[A v i]

This. People are severely over-estimating Gear Fourth, but seem to forget that Law has attacks like Gamma Knife which would one shot Luffy before he even got the chance to use G4.

I'm hype to see what Kidd got up his sleeve. If they were to fight right now I think they would stalemate based on hype.

Winning a battle and being stronger aren't always same. At full power Law is no match for Luffy which is an irrefutable fact. As you said Law can win without letting Luffy go for G4 but Will that make him stronger? Not at all.

 

[Spha]

Luffy is on par with Kidd when on G2 and 3.....that's as far as I blv, I saw the right hand man of Kidd, worried when he saw Luffy beating up Ceaser, so I blv he saw Luffy as a threat, I blv the only supernova Capable of fightin on Par with Gear 4 luffy is Drake, pre time skip he seems to overpower the pacifista which npo one of the Supernova could do It.

And he is a beast, a Zoan type that is Strong, he can tank powerful attacks, and Luffy G4 was created to fight Beasts, strong beast and some of the beast dint did not fall to his G4 attacks.

And Gear 4 was only created to defeat Kaido as he is the strongest Beast alive....after he defeat Kaido, he will perfect the it.....awaken devil + G4, is enough to beat Kaido.....

G4 luffy=Drake.

 

[giostep]

Well, it highly depends on the situation with Kidd, becuase his powers interact with different materials that may not be readily available.
If Luffy and Kidd fight in a Forest what Metal Opjects would he be able to Manipulate?
If Kidds power manipulates the elcotromagnetic properties of ANYTHING then he is basically a god of OP and everyone loses.

So we need to know, does Kidds ability manipulate only metal? If so then Luffy wrecks in places with no or little amounts of metal. Luffy would probably Mid Diff with medium amounts of metal and He would High diff, Exterme diff in places with a lot of metal, and would probs lose in an area that is more than 50% metal.
But if Kidd manipulates electromagnetic properties of things then luffy loses everytime, but same could be said for almost anyone.

I doubt its the electromagnetic properties cuz then he wouldnt need to team with the other two sn to get the job done, unless they are just a distraction...

My2Cent

 

[arv993]

ppl on this base are pretty dumb law is below luffy it doesnt mean he wont catch up. luffy just got a powerup but law's df is hyped to be amazing so he'll catch up. doffy was more injured than luffy but he was waaaaaay more serious against luffy than law and luffy fought against doffy's awakening and did well so t hat itself puts him above law since doffy was not pushed that far. he is more powerful than most SN probably at this point but they will catch up.

kids saying nah its 80 % doffy nah its 55% all of you are ignoring that awakening powers marked the full potential of doffy and the injuries dont matter as much when u use just fingers but doffy clearly at full health would be better. and when oda makes a whole page just to show both characters are injured one isnt likely gonna be way worse than the other. the portrayl was fairly easy to read but u got a bunnch of luffy haters(some who claim they like luffy) that downplay everything and hype the bs law pulled with the help from luffy. law is below luffy im quite certain oda made it quite clear when luffy was shown to hold his own against an opponent tier above law.

not to mention luffy was taking a beating from doffy b4 G4 just as he was saving it an for hype and plot purposes from oda. its obvious doffy had more but luffy got hit bad by doffy for a while b4 G4

 

[BaseGodNaruto]

Yeah, that's not true. Doflamingo's strings, which you're claiming did no damage, pierced through his Haki and drew blood.

You can't say Luffy is better because Law landed GK due to tag team when the only reason Luffy beat Doflamingo was because Law weakened him and Gatz and his friends/fighters kept Luffy safe and hid him from Doflamingo during the cooldown.

You also can't say Luffy would overwhelm Doflamingo when we've only seen him do so to severely weakened Doflamingo.

Damn give Luffy he a freaking break he was just it a Tournament fighting strong fighters had too fight his way up too Doffy,

You guys act like luffy was resting in bed before he fought Doffy