[Discussion] Luffy vs Ace

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  • Luffy

    Votes: 20 74.1%
  • Ace

    Votes: 7 25.9%

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jiraiya lives

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The overrating of Ace know's no limits Lol. No matter how strong Luffy get's people still say that ace is stronger or equal. What is it gonna take something like gear 6 for people to finally admit that Ace is weaker?

In all honesty I feel Luffy surpassed ace when he used Red hawk
 

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Luffy mid-high diff.
 

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I think it will be a tie like Jinbei and ace.
 

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If that's the case then the whitebeard commanders were extremely weak. Considering Jozu was made a parasite and current luffy required Law's help in defeating shichibukai.
 

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If that's the case then the whitebeard commanders were extremely weak. Considering Jozu was made a parasite and current luffy required Law's help in defeating shichibukai.

Ace was the 5th strongest WB Pirate. How does current Luffy, who will become admiral level in a few arcs, being stronger than Ace mean that the WB commanders weak? Ace has no feats what make him equal to Luffy.
 

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Ace was the 5th strongest WB Pirate. How does current Luffy, who will become admiral level in a few arcs, being stronger than Ace mean that the WB commanders weak? Ace has no feats what make him equal to Luffy.

I don't know why you think he was the 5th stronges. All of the whitebeard commanders seem to be ranked according to how strong they are.
For example, Marco was stronger than Jozu who was stronger than vista and so on. In that way Ace was the second strongest commander.
Let's talk about feats,
Ace fought like a beast with a Yami BB, who even before acquiring the DF power was strong enough to give shanks his trademark scar, which shanks made clear happened when he was fully serious about the fight.
When Ace and Luffy went up against Aokiji, Luffy was saying something along the lines of
"Someday I will be even stronger than you ace"
And Ace, "ok, but for now I will fight the admiral and protect you". That shows that Ace had enough trust in his strength to take on an admiral.
Certainly if Ace was the fifth strongest Aokiji must be extremely weak.
And if you want to talk about the natural weakness of Aokiji to Ace's fruit then that applies to his fight with Akainu as well and it still went on for 10 days. So, Aokiji understood that this battle would take sometime to end he stepped back.

At least, this is what I think makes Luffy atm tie with Ace because of his position as the WB pirates 2nd division commander.
 

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I don't know why you think he was the 5th stronges. All of the whitebeard commanders seem to be ranked according to how strong they are.
For example, Marco was stronger than Jozu who was stronger than vista and so on. In that way Ace was the second strongest commander.
Let's talk about feats,
Ace fought like a beast with a Yami BB, who even before acquiring the DF power was strong enough to give shanks his trademark scar, which shanks made clear happened when he was fully serious about the fight.
When Ace and Luffy went up against Aokiji, Luffy was saying something along the lines of
"Someday I will be even stronger than you ace"
And Ace, "ok, but for now I will fight the admiral and protect you". That shows that Ace had enough trust in his strength to take on an admiral.
Certainly if Ace was the fifth strongest Aokiji must be extremely weak.
And if you want to talk about the natural weakness of Aokiji to Ace's fruit then that applies to his fight with Akainu as well and it still went on for 10 days. So, Aokiji understood that this battle would take sometime to end he stepped back.

At least, this is what I think makes Luffy atm tie with Ace because of his position as the WB pirates 2nd division commander.
Oda specifically said the numbers of the commanders aren't a ranking system.

Ace was also confident in his abilities to fight Akainu. Oops.
He was confident in his abilities to kill Whitebeard. Oops.
Hody was confident in his abilities to kill Luffy. Oops.
Pica was confident in his Haki to beat Zoro's. Oops.
Caesar was confident in his abilities to kill and persuade Luffy. Oops.
 

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The overrating of Ace know's no limits Lol. No matter how strong Luffy get's people still say that ace is stronger or equal. What is it gonna take something like gear 6 for people to finally admit that Ace is weaker?

In all honesty I feel Luffy surpassed ace when he used Red hawk

So smacking about fodder Hody means you're stronger then Ace GTFO.
 
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