[Discussion] Luffy/Law vs Kaido and Kidd alliance vs Shanks will not happen

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The reason that this won't happen is becouse, once Shanks learns that Kaido will be going after Luffy he will try to stop him, the same goes for Luffy when he hears that Kidd is going after Shanks.

So it will end up like Kaido Vs Shanks and Luffy/Law Vs Kidd/Appo/Hawkins, based on their power this is more suitable than taking on a Yonko now.

If this doesn't happen then war might break out as Shanks tries to protect Luffy from Kaido and Luffy doing the same, they might end up blocking each others enemies.

So far non of the supernova Alliances seems strong enough to take on a Yonko, taking how Luffy an Law berely beat Doflamingo who was afraid of Kaido like an ant watching a beast.

Marco is part of Shanks crew, Shanks asked hime before so he might have gone to them.

Give me you opinion based on this.
 

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Shanks job is not to protect luffy, they're different pirates with different dreams and enemies. Shanks won't do something as childish as defending luffy from a fellow yonko.....
 

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Kidd and the others ain't got shit, it's just Oda trying to make the manga interesting, they ain't show no interesting abilities, if they couldn't beat an admiral how tf they can beat a Yonko ?
 

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Shanks job is not to protect luffy, they're different pirates with different dreams and enemies. Shanks won't do something as childish as defending luffy from a fellow yonko.....
Shanks will not allow his friend to get killed as long as he knows that Kaido is more strong than Luffy, don't forget that Shanks also tried to protect Ace from fighting with Blackbeard but whitebeard just brused him off.

He also protected whitebeard from Kaido so Whitebeard gets the chance to save Ace.

Do u honestly believe Shanks will just stand still knowing that Luffy is in danger, Shanks was nevr an enemy of Luffy, he wants Luffy be the Pirate King, and Knows that He not ready to fight against a Yonko, he will protect Luffy from him.

And by the way Shanks crewmates Likes Luffy and Yosopp won't let his Son face someone of his own strength, think before you comment, there's is lot of reasoning for Shanks to Stop Kaido attack on the Strawhats.
 

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Shanks will not help Luffy .. that's so childish.

He wouldn't of even helped Ace at Marine Ford.

If he had made it there in time sure he would of fought, but for pirates in general.
 

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I said the same thing in my thread, of course people disagreed.
Still its a logical way of thinking, if this was impossible to happen then Kidd alliance target would have been another Yonko instead, this supernovas are all not yet strong enough to take on a Yonko crew, Doflamingo crew was an example, how can u expect Vice Admiral level pirates to take on a Yonko.

For the supernova to take on a Yonko it will take quite sometime for them to do so, and I don't think Oda will take out Shanks before he fight with BB and he also won't take out Kidd too, he is too interesting character to be beaten yet.
 

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Shanks wants Luffy to be strong, Shanks is definitely, not going to interfere in Luffy's battles.
Luffy Vs Kaido now isn't a battle its Suicide, Shanks knows, don't forget Luffy Just entered the New World, One piece will atleast go for Another 10 years or so, so in 5 years time who will be Luffy's Opponents if they take out the Yonkos Now.

Yossop will find out about Ussop bein on Luffy crew, and he defenetly won't keep quiet Knowing that his only Son faces so much Danger still young and Fragile, let's face it Luffy/Law berely defeated Doffy who is not even on Kaido level, who supposenly have 500 devil fruit eaters and maybe his alliances as well.

So its most logical to delay Kaido and Luffy battle for Shanks.
 

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Shanks will not help Luffy .. that's so childish.

He wouldn't of even helped Ace at Marine Ford.

If he had made it there in time sure he would of fought, but for pirates in general.
What you saying is just what you believe, and when you say he would have not helped Ace then I think you are Wrong.

1. He practically tried to stop Ace for fighting Blackbeard but failed.
2. He stopped Kaido from attacking Whitebeard so he can go to marineford.
3. Why do think Shanks went to Marineford in the first place.
4. If Kaido dint try to fight Whitebeard I'm pretty sure Shanks would have allied with Whitebeard at Marineford to save Ace.
5. He also requested to bury Ace and Whitebeard why is that, he felt bad he could not be there in time.

And Shanks knows that Luffy/Law can't beat Kaido, so the logical thing is to stop Kaido from attacking them, Like the way Rayleigh Did when Kizaru Attacked the strawhats.......if u try to think more about this you will know.

There's is no way 2 supernovas alliance groups can take out a 2 yonkos....its also illogical for Shanks to stomp Kidd alliance,becouse Luffy Vs Kidd and Shanks vs BB is already being hyped. so when you say its childish for this to happen then that means you telling me the supernovas will defeat 2 yonkos in a short period of time.
 

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Luffy Vs Kaido now isn't a battle its Suicide, Shanks knows, don't forget Luffy Just entered the New World, One piece will atleast go for Another 10 years or so, so in 5 years time who will be Luffy's Opponents if they take out the Yonkos Now.

Yossop will find out about Ussop bein on Luffy crew, and he defenetly won't keep quiet Knowing that his only Son faces so much Danger still young and Fragile, let's face it Luffy/Law berely defeated Doffy who is not even on Kaido level, who supposenly have 500 devil fruit eaters and maybe his alliances as well.

So its most logical to delay Kaido and Luffy battle for Shanks.
You underestimate the effect of time on the OPV, the diffrence between water 7 and ennies lobby was day iirc and the diffrence between Luffy pre-ennies lobby and at ennies lobby is undescribable.
 

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You underestimate the effect of time on the OPV, the diffrence between water 7 and ennies lobby was day iirc and the diffrence between Luffy pre-ennies lobby and at ennies lobby is undescribable.
If they receive sudden powerup then I'm not complaining but its highly unlikely at this point, they just reached the New world.
 

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If they receive sudden powerup then I'm not complaining but its highly unlikely at this point, they just reached the New world.
It won't be power-ups it'll just show that they did not go all out at Dressrosa (which is not that plausible). though Zoro clearly did not go all out,
 

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shank's may intervien considering his past actions but shanks is not weak enough to need help of a novice who doesn't defeat a WL himself
Yea oviously Shanks won't need help, but that's how Luffy will get stonger by fightin someone on par with him instead of a monster.
 

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When Ace was sent to jail, Luffy said that was his own adventure and struggle. It wasn't until Ace was about to be executed he stepped in. He knows Shanks can handle himself, especially against Kid.
 

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Likeliest scenario

Kid alliance face off Shanks and lose, but Shanks is weakened and praise Kid's strength in particular enough to let him live, judging that he has great potential. However, a lurking around BB comes to finish off the weakened Shanks
 
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