Long Live Power!!! Long Live PowerBase!!!

[chaos control]

I assume "Michael Bay movies" are your favorite type of movies then, huh?



Do you also compare your ding-dong to those of other dudes?

I don't know who Michael Bay is. I don't watch many movies. I don't care about penis size.

 

[DominiqueX]

I don't know who Michael Bay is.

This sums up pretty much every Michael Bay movie:

Spoiler

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[Claymantan]

This sums up pretty much every Michael Bay movie:

Spoiler

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Was mildly concerned that the spoiler was going to be a penis.

 

[SatanicGod]

Sakura-Naruto-Sasuke = PowerBase
Hinata-Boruto-Himawari= TrashBase

Replace Sakura with Himawari and THAT'S true power

 

[NINE SAILS]

Peace is a lie.There is only passion.Through passion I gain strength.Through strength I gain power.Through power I gain victory.Through victory my chains are broken.The force shall free me.

 

[DominiqueX]

Was mildly concerned that the spoiler was going to be a penis.

I'm mildly disappointed
As if I would post such things.

 

[Claymantan]

I'm mildly disappointed
As if I would post such things.

Sometimes fear overtakes reason D: I'm sorry :'(

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

So essentially you want to compromise writing for the sake of wanking and fighting over series.

Look at the themes of the work and plot before you say something stupid like that. It was first introduced as a manga about ninja and now you just want it to be Gods vs Gods and then when one God is beaten, bring a stronger one? This isn't DBZ.

Also, note that the fighting style and plots are considered better in Part 1 and people agree it fell at the war arc. The difference is in part 1 it isn't power ranger megazords using kamehameha.

 

[SenseiSama]

Read the manga, tattos that give power ARE hand outs

And most of us hate the direction this manga is going because it was never realistic to be on Naruto and Sasuke's level, I repeat, never realistic, as in canonically impossible.

 

[chaos control]

So essentially you want to compromise writing for the sake of wanking and fighting over series.

Look at the themes of the work and plot before you say something stupid like that. It was first introduced as a manga about ninja and now you just want it to be Gods vs Gods and then one one God is beaten, bring a stronger one? This isn't DBZ.

Also, note that the fighting style and plots are considered better in Part 1 and people agree it fell at the war arc. The difference is in part 1 it isn't power ranger megazords using kamehameha.

How does power compromise the writing? If anything it makes it better. All throughout the series Kishi has had Naruto preach about endurance and not giving up. Having the protagonists apply that theme to overcome the adversity of more powerful opponents is the perfect way to manifest the theme into actions. That actually fits way better than having the protagonist fight some scrub and then shout "Don't give up! That's my ninja way!". If the hero only fights scrubs then what did he actually endure? What theme does it support?

As for the plots , they are so much deeper and more meaningful in part 2 than in part 1. Part 1 was all light hearted and jovial ,while part 2 actually got into philosophy about peace that can actually make one reflect on the state of society in the real world.

Part 2 >>>>>> part 1

 

[chaos control]

Read the manga, tattos that give power ARE hand outs

And most of us hate the direction this manga is going because it was never realistic to be on Naruto and Sasuke's level, I repeat, never realistic, as in canonically impossible.

Says who? Where was this established as impossible? Read some science text books. Read some other series. Read in general. Maybe then you will see how stupid it is to limit characters to such ridiculous levels and how stupid it is to determine as a fan what the limits pf power for a whole series are , when said series never established such limits.

 

[Ansatsuken]

The way I see it is: There is more so a problem with the fans than with the writing. Think about it: Every time the slightest new development shows itself , it is called an asspull by these fans. Every time! I'm sure we can all agree that vanishing rasengan was a reasonable power to give a kid Boruto. Yet if you look through some of the past threads in this section , you can even find people complaining about how in their opinion Boruto shouldn't be able to subconsciously add wind nature to his rasengan like that.

Do you see what I mean. There are no "asspulls". It is just that any and every slight new power or technique is forbidden according to these fans.

Also , that limit thing is a load of crap! Kishi himself never actually set any limits on how strong a shinobi can get. It is just the fans that see a strong character and then decide for themselves that this particular character's level is the limit , and that nobody can ever legitimately surpass this person without it being bad writing.

These fans totally disregard the possibility of a shinobi developing techniques that use scientific principles or any other intelligent ideas to take down powerful opponents. Nope! Intelligence is not allowed when a shinobi trains or develops jutsus according to these fans! To these people , a shinobi must always make sure that they don't use their brain and that they stay weaker than the current top tier characters.

Do you remember in DBZ when Gohan and Krillin fought Guldo of the Ginyu force? Do you remember how in terms of power level , Gohan and Krillin were a fair bit stronger than Guldo? Then do you remember how Guldo ended up almost beating Gohan and Krillin despite his weaker power level due to the fact that he had a certain technique (his telekinetic paralysis)?

This concept is exactly what I am talking about when I say that there are no limits , and that a stronger character can be surpassed if the supposedly weaker character has the right techniques!

But no! These Naruto fans aren't having that! If you are weaker then you are not allowed to have good ace in the hole techniques even if you train for them! You are not allowed to be smart! This is the logic used by these power haters!

That is the problem with this fanbase. They limit everything and they absolutely forbid intelligence when training and developing techniques!

I put it in simple word here,

Vanishing Rasengan is not a big deal for them bcus it not a very powerful/godly tech or ability in NV compare to S.P. Senjutsu/Rinnegan. Boruto developed something like that can be acceptable by many bcus they think that was his specialty.

That is about Boruto's vanishing Rasengan.

For the bigger subject in Godly power.

It became very tricky. People wont easily accept it if no possible explanation is given by author.

I have the same view as you if you aware. But I will waiting for any kind of godly power to appears in manga and its detail explanation and the explanation also must be reasonable.

Author can just pull out any BS godly power from his ass. And thats how the quality of the manga will drop and lost it value to readers here.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

How does power compromise the writing? If anything it makes it better. All throughout the series Kishi has had Naruto preach about endurance and not giving up. Having the protagonists apply that theme to overcome the adversity of more powerful opponents is the perfect way to manifest the theme into actions. That actually fits way better than having the protagonist fight some scrub and then shout "Don't give up! That's my ninja way!". If the hero only fights scrubs then what did he actually endure? What theme does it support?

As for the plots , they are so much deeper and more meaningful in part 2 than in part 1. Part 1 was all light hearted and jovial ,while part 2 actually got into philosophy about peace that can actually make one reflect on the state of society in the real world.

Part 2 >>>>>> part 1

Power needs to be increased of course, but if it exponentially increases every time, the audience gets desensititized to what should b something great. I also enjoy strategy and taijutsu far more than Kindergarten boom boom explosions 24/7.

Look at Kaguya's fight. So much power but no style and completely underwhelming. Part 2, after Pain, destroyed characters, morals, disregarded adding depth, and lacked entertaining fights. If you possibly think Kaguya was more entertaining then say Lee vs Kimmimaro, then there is no point in me wasting my time debating. If you remove limits, the whole setting no longer fits, especially in something that's supposed to be a feudal era.

We enjoy style and substance over explosions. 9/10 you compromise those two for power. Just because you can find something so repetitive and unsophisticated interesting, doesn't mean we can.

If you go from death by Kunai to omnipotent in a series, it's so f*cking ridiculous. Yes, passing powers that seem that were presented as Godly or miracles does cross the limit. You're basically telling me we're supposed to be impressed the first time, then see even more ridiculous event happen in a few years. That's poor writing.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Like Pumpkin said I also dislike skyrocket power level or increasing for forever power level but it depends on the theme or setiting of the manga. Like for Naruto series I despise it alot actually. Kishi trying too hard.

For me I like hierarchy base power level where certain level of characters/human can only achieve this limit of PL and so on. God is God and human cant be God or achieved God level power. Controllable situation for power level development I call it.

Actually I despise DBS also.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

They fight for villages, yet each guy can take out countries? Dafuq is this? There's your limit.