LOGICALLY EMS sasuke> hashirama

[TheTailedSage]

When did sasuke use katon in danzo fight? and we dont have amatarasu in rl do we. like ive been saying this whole time. amatarasu is slow burning. if you have clothes on and ammy smoothers it it you have a chance take it off. it doesnt scortch you instantly

dude the more the wood the stronger and faster the flames

Its the same principle as gaaras sand. sand can turn into glass but at a high melting point. The wood infused with chakra allows it to become more resillient so burning it will only take longer

 

[ashrafuchiha]

When did sasuke use katon in danzo fight? and we dont have amatarasu in rl do we. like ive been saying this whole time. amatarasu is slow burning. if you have clothes on and ammy smoothers it it you have a chance take it off. it doesnt scortch you instantly

sasuke used katon when danzo used his summon. i think it is called baki and it depends if waht your wearing is highly flammable. which wood is

 

[TheTailedSage]

sasuke used katon when danzo used his summon. i think it is called baki and it depends if waht your wearing is highly flammable. which wood is

show me a scan because i dont remember. I keep saying this mokuton isnt normal wood thus it being flammable to amatarasu is only half the truth. It will burn mokuton but it will take for ages

 

[zamki]

I thought you were trolling,this is even worse than trolling.

 

[TheTailedSage]

I thought you were trolling,this is even worse than trolling.

Sooooo much worst

 

[Blunt]

Not going to argue with you people here, but what is Hashirama going to do if he is ignited in black flames? I mean really, logically speaking he is not even near as fast enough to dodge Amaterasu.

 

[TheTailedSage]

Not going to argue with you people here, but what is Hashirama going to do if he is ignited in black flames? I mean really, logically speaking he is not even near as fast enough to dodge Amaterasu.

Madara in theory had amatarasu and hashi still won. mokubushin clone and regeneration

 

[ashrafuchiha]

usay this is worse than trolling because u cannot give me a logical argument to how hashi gets passed ammy. im not saying sasuke beats hashi im saying hehs a good chance

 

[NarutoIndra]

when u add wood to fire what happens? the fire burns faster and stronger
what happens when u add skin hard enough to tank chidori with ease to fire? it burns slower than usual.
u said im being a moron when in actual sense your the moron use your brain and tell me what happens when u add wood to fire. smh

You can't use IRL logic in Naruto. You really think fire>wind even if wind is large scale? You really think water cannot damage earth? You are sadly mistaken. Too add to your point of fire>wood, amateratsu first of all has different attributes, effects, and characteristics. If it were as easy as you say it is, any fire jutsu would've done the trick. Obviously since Madara has katon juts normal shinobi would dream of, it would be stupid to say he has not tried it against Hashirama. If it wouldve worked, Hashirama wouldve never been victorious, but for obvious reasons it was not, hence why your point being false. In the manga, Moukoton is made of WATER and earth, if you want to relate to real life, are you telling me I can gorw a tree by pouring water in standard earth? The answer is no. This further proves that your point of Naruto=IRL is incorrect (of course some things are similar and alike). Please stop pouring this ignorance in your arguments.

 

[naruttebayo]

may be but plotically hashi>sasu

 

[ashrafuchiha]

You can't use IRL logic in Naruto. You really think fire>wind even if wind is large scale? You really think water cannot damage earth? You are sadly mistaken. Too add to your point of fire>wood, amateratsu first of all has different attributes, effects, and characteristics. If it were as easy as you say it is, any fire jutsu would've done the trick. Obviously since Madara has katon juts normal shinobi would dream of, it would be stupid to say he has not tried it against Hashirama. If it wouldve worked, Hashirama wouldve never been victorious, but for obvious reasons it was not, hence why your point being false. In the manga, Moukoton is made of WATER and earth, if you want to relate to real life, are you telling me I can gorw a tree by pouring water in standard earth? The answer is no. This further proves that your point of Naruto=IRL is incorrect (of course some things are similar and alike). Please stop pouring this ignorance in your arguments.

how am i pouring ignorance in my arguments, logic in naruto sometimes works like water> fire and remember in the danzo fight when danzo used his summon to create great winds to inhale or keep sasuke in one spot, but sasuke just used katon and because fire> wind the same way fire>wood his fire became stronger you just wont admit cos your probably a sasuke hater. why dont you just say sasuke wins logically and hashi wins plotically.

 

[ashrafuchiha]

may be but plotically hashi>sasu

i can agree with that sasuke wins logically and hashi wins plotically

 

[NarutoIndra]

how am i pouring ignorance in my arguments, logic in naruto sometimes works like water> fire and remember in the danzo fight when danzo used his summon to create great winds to inhale or keep sasuke in one spot, but sasuke just used katon and because fire> wind the same way fire>wood his fire became stronger you just wont admit cos your probably a sasuke hater. why dont you just say sasuke wins logically and hashi wins plotically.

This is ridiculous. You brought an example of real life to have it make up for the rest of the NV? According to the manga, if Naruto were to send an extremly quick wind (FRS) at Sasukes Katon, his fuuton would lose. In real life however, an extremely quick wind (which crosses a mountain range in less then a second) would not only be unaffected by the fire, but redirect the fire as well. It is like blowing at a candle, whereas Naruto, you may have a tiny bit of fire, but sending just a little wind may enhance it greatly. This is my example.

The Danzo example is absurd to compare. You are comparing pressure (aka suction in this scenario) to regular wind, the idea Sasuke had wasn't as ingenious as people make it be. It's not hard to think the wind being 'sucked' in to the summonings mouth wouldn't have taken the fire with it, (it has nothing to do with wind release, hence why this example you stated is bogus).

It has nothing to do with disliking Sasuke or liking him, it has something to do with teaching someone delusional reality. Thinking someone like Sasuke with win someone this legendary is absurd, let alone comparing Naruto to real life. Sasuke does not win in NV, nor would he win if the fight were in real life.

You keep claiming Fire>Moukoton, have you forgotten he posses water as well? Water>Fire. Sasuke cannot obtain a presence where he is fighting aggressively and spamming amateratsu and katon jutsu's, while Hashirama, as a Senju, can obtain an aggressive fight with Moukoton spamming, and other jutsu's being released. If every time Hashirama were to release a Moukoton technique Sasuke were to counter with Amateratsu, Sasuke would lose his chakra within the first few minutes of Hashirama getting started.

 

[Professor Finesser]

You can't say this is logical and not provide any evidence. But no if EMS Madara couldn't beat him than I doubt Sasuke could

 

[OnPoint]

Canonically speaking, Yamato already provided one means of removing Amaterasu from play [

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] - a method Hashirama would have little difficulty replicating. A counter to being hit by the flames is to create Moku Bunshins by expelling wood from the body; these doppelgangers would take the flames with them, saving the user [

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]. Of course, fooling the enemy with Bunshin feints would also help. Amaterasu, on the whole, doesn't seem to burn as quickly or as furiously as you might think, and with regenerative abilities comparable to his granddaughter, Tsunade, Hashirama won't encounter too many problems so long as he acts quickly.

 

[ashrafuchiha]

This is ridiculous. You brought an example of real life to have it make up for the rest of the NV? According to the manga, if Naruto were to send an extremly quick wind (FRS) at Sasukes Katon, his fuuton would lose. In real life however, an extremely quick wind (which crosses a mountain range in less then a second) would not only be unaffected by the fire, but redirect the fire as well. It is like blowing at a candle, whereas Naruto, you may have a tiny bit of fire, but sending just a little wind may enhance it greatly. This is my example.

The Danzo example is absurd to compare. You are comparing pressure (aka suction in this scenario) to regular wind, the idea Sasuke had wasn't as ingenious as people make it be. It's not hard to think the wind being 'sucked' in to the summonings mouth wouldn't have taken the fire with it, (it has nothing to do with wind release, hence why this example you stated is bogus).

It has nothing to do with disliking Sasuke or liking him, it has something to do with teaching someone delusional reality. Thinking someone like Sasuke with win someone this legendary is absurd, let alone comparing Naruto to real life. Sasuke does not win in NV, nor would he win if the fight were in real life.

You keep claiming Fire>Moukoton, have you forgotten he posses water as well? Water>Fire. Sasuke cannot obtain a presence where he is fighting aggressively and spamming amateratsu and katon jutsu's, while Hashirama, as a Senju, can obtain an aggressive fight with Moukoton spamming, and other jutsu's being released. If every time Hashirama were to release a Moukoton technique Sasuke were to counter with Amateratsu, Sasuke would lose his chakra within the first few minutes of Hashirama getting started.

ok so what if sasuke uses amaterasu right of the bat

 

[ashrafuchiha]

Canonically speaking, Yamato already provided one means of removing Amaterasu from play [

You must be registered for see links

] - a method Hashirama would have little difficulty replicating. A counter to being hit by the flames is to create Moku Bunshins by expelling wood from the body; these doppelgangers would take the flames with them, saving the user [

You must be registered for see links

]. Of course, fooling the enemy with Bunshin feints would also help. Amaterasu, on the whole, doesn't seem to burn as quickly or as furiously as you might think, and with regenerative abilities comparable to his granddaughter, Tsunade, Hashirama won't encounter too many problems so long as he acts quickly.

all im saying is that sasuke has a good chance of defeating hashi

 

[OnPoint]

all im saying is that sasuke has a good chance of defeating hashi

Without a Perfect, stabilized Susano'o of his own, Sasuke's odds of winning are incredibly poor.

 

[OmegaRed721]

EMS Sasuke gets stomped by Nagato, let alone Hashi

 

[BlackFlame44]

This is ridiculous. You brought an example of real life to have it make up for the rest of the NV? According to the manga, if Naruto were to send an extremly quick wind (FRS) at Sasukes Katon, his fuuton would lose. In real life however, an extremely quick wind (which crosses a mountain range in less then a second) would not only be unaffected by the fire, but redirect the fire as well. It is like blowing at a candle, whereas Naruto, you may have a tiny bit of fire, but sending just a little wind may enhance it greatly. This is my example.

The Danzo example is absurd to compare. You are comparing pressure (aka suction in this scenario) to regular wind, the idea Sasuke had wasn't as ingenious as people make it be. It's not hard to think the wind being 'sucked' in to the summonings mouth wouldn't have taken the fire with it, (it has nothing to do with wind release, hence why this example you stated is bogus).

It has nothing to do with disliking Sasuke or liking him, it has something to do with teaching someone delusional reality. Thinking someone like Sasuke with win someone this legendary is absurd, let alone comparing Naruto to real life. Sasuke does not win in NV, nor would he win if the fight were in real life.

You keep claiming Fire>Moukoton, have you forgotten he posses water as well? Water>Fire. Sasuke cannot obtain a presence where he is fighting aggressively and spamming amateratsu and katon jutsu's, while Hashirama, as a Senju, can obtain an aggressive fight with Moukoton spamming, and other jutsu's being released. If every time Hashirama were to release a Moukoton technique Sasuke were to counter with Amateratsu, Sasuke would lose his chakra within the first few minutes of Hashirama getting started.

Uhm u can add physics into naruto verse they've Done it many times but Amaterasu or not HASHIRAMA stomps sasuke into the ground like a bug