Let's talk about Mangafacts

[Loki d]

Why do people try to go against manga facts? I already know their opinion does not matter but I wonder why. Is it that they can't face facts. They love to question an Author's statements and everything like why.

Ex.) "Itachi is Invincible with Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade"

This shouldn't be questioned because a clear explanation was given on how he is invincible.

Ex.) "My Susanoo is destruction incarnate, a stroke of this blade contains the power to destroy all things in the universe"

This also shouldn't be questioned we know it is possible because his Perfect Susanoo is the embodiment of destruction therefore it is possible and is fact.

There is no contradiction between the two. Neither discredit the other because they never crossed paths and if they did we wouldn't know who would win.

Moving on, the only time a statement should be questioned is when there is no explanation at all.

Ex.) Cell's solar system statement.

There was no explanation for how he could do it however people blindly believed because previous villain could destroy planets with a finger.

I personally don't care about Cell's statement because in fiction anything is possible but I would only "truly" believe if I understand how the character can do it meaning an EXPLANATION was given.

An example of person trying to disprove mangafacts but ends up looking like a tard:

There was this one D*ck that claiming he debunked the GetBackers series, one of his arguments was that the black hole that one of the characters created wasn't a real black hole because there was light still in the room or that the character was suppose to be sucked up not injured. Both of these arguments are weak because one is a matter of author art style and the other is a show of characters strength. GetBackers is one of those series that goes into detail a lot about many things giving numbers and all. Also the guy didn't read the whole manga he only read a few parts.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

So you believe both statements?

:dead:

If an unstoppable force and an immovable object both exist then there is a contradiction.

 

[Draphsin]

Ex.) "Itachi is Invincible with Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade"

Quote stated by BZ, a known liar/manipulator who gathered his info from a legend. Also contradicted the moment itachi died. = Not a manga fact.

Ex.) "My Susanoo is destruction incarnate, a stroke of this blade contains the power to destroy all things in the universe'

We've seen madara swing his blade multiple times, hasn't ever destroyed all things in the universe. Madara also stated that whoever sees PS dies so his validity goes down the toilet + the contradiction. = Not a manga fact.

Your examples are invalid, these claims are made by people who have been wrong & so their word can't be taken as an absolute. Obito should be a planet creator/buster & temari a universe buster going by your logic.

 

[Hàdes1]

Quote stated by BZ, a known liar/manipulator who gathered his info from a legend. Also contradicted the moment itachi died. = Not a manga fact.



We've seen madara swing his blade multiple times, hasn't ever destroyed all things in the universe. Madara also stated that whoever sees PS dies so his validity goes down the toilet + the contradiction. = Not a manga fact.

Your examples are invalid, these claims are made by people who have been wrong & so their word can't be taken as an absolute. Obito should be a planet creator/buster & temari a universe buster going by your logic.

Lel why would he lie about totsuka? lmao he was talking to himself not someone he can lie to

He cant lie to himself lel

 

[-immortal-]

thats hype

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

Lel why would he lie about totsuka? lmao he was talking to himself not someone he can lie to

He cant lie to himself lel

What he said was based off legend. He wasn't lying but it should be taken with a grain of salt.

 

[Draphsin]

Lel why would he lie about totsuka? lmao he was talking to himself not someone he can lie to

He cant lie to himself lel

Fact is he's a liar so his word means nothing unless backed by proof, that includes his opinion on certain things [like itachi being invincible]. That's what he thinks, nothing makes it true w/o evidence.

 

[Hàdes1]

Fact is he's a liar so his word means nothing unless backed by proof, that includes his opinion on certain things [like itachi being invincible]. That's what he thinks, nothing makes it true w/o evidence.

Lel are you well?

Then everything BZ said is not true. He isnt an ancient creature. he was born yesterday. He isnt kaguya's son

Can you believe that shit ^ Bz was talking to himself so why would he lie?

 

[Draphsin]

Lel are you well?

Let's not start w/ the petty shots shall we? It won't end well for you.

Then everything BZ said is not true.

W/o proof? Absolutely not.

He didnt make the shinobi history. he was born yesterday

Can you believe that shit ^

Except there's proof that he did make the shinobi history & there's proof that he isn't a day old but at the same time not omniscient, so your comparison isn't valid.

 

[Loki d]

Quote stated by BZ, a known liar/manipulator who gathered his info from a legend. Also contradicted the moment itachi died. = Not a manga fact.



We've seen madara swing his blade multiple times, hasn't ever destroyed all things in the universe. Madara also stated that whoever sees PS dies so his validity goes down the toilet + the contradiction. = Not a manga fact.

Your examples are invalid, these claims are made by people who have been wrong & so their word can't be taken as an absolute. Obito should be a planet creator/buster & temari a universe buster going by your logic.

Oh boy here we go you're one of those guys.

1. Invincibility does not come with Immortality. Itachi won the fight it was over the moment Sasuke ran out of techniques.

2. Now this one is just your lack of comprehension skills, Madara said a stroke of his blade "contained the power" not that each time he swings his blade all things in creation are destroyed. Now did Madara/Kishi give an explanation on why whoever sees PS dies? No the hell he didn't so why would that statement be believable.

You didn't understand the point of this thread or my point. I am basically saying that if an explanation was giving on how something is possible then it is valid no need to go any further. Temari being a universe buster is not valid unless an explanation was given and not just stated.

Let me help you understand:

"I am god"- Invalid statement

"I am the embodiment of life, I can breathe life to many things on the planet"- Valid statement

 

[Hàdes1]

Let's not start w/ the petty shots shall we? It won't end well for you.



W/o proof? Absolutely not.



Except there's proof that he did make the shinobi history & there's proof that he isn't a day old but at the same time not omniscient, so your comparison isn't valid.

Try me

Is there a proof that he is kaguya's son? He doesnt even look like her

Well why would je lie to himself then? he wasnt in the prescens of a enemy shinobi with a kunai im his hand .

Lel get your fanfic straight.

 

[davidou]

Lel why would he lie about totsuka? lmao he was talking to himself not someone he can lie to

He cant lie to himself lel

Yes it is very possible , just look at this thread.

 

[Rikodou Mode]

Itachi lost his credibility when Amaterasu got shat on by Gaara and Sasuke's Susanoo tanked more powerful attacks than Yata

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

Yes it is very possible , just look at this thread.

Oh shit, plus rep for you.

 

[Draphsin]

Oh boy here we go you're one of those guys.

You mean one of those guys who actually uses their head around here?

1. Invincibility does not come with Immortality. Itachi won the fight it was over the moment Sasuke ran out of techniques.

Irrelevant,

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. Itachi died by his own admission, meaning he can be defeated if he becomes exhausted. If a character is fast enough & strong enough to pressure itachi to use susanoo for the whole battle then he dies of chakra exhaustion, meaning he can get defeated & thus invalidating BZ's empty claim.

2. Now this one is just your lack of comprehension skills.

Laughable.

Madara said a stroke of his blade "contained the power" not that each time he swings his blade all things in creation are destroyed.

Now this is where your comprehension skills come into question, if you believe that madara's PS blade had enough power to destroy everything in the universe then why did SS pound it into oblivion? We've seen madara go all out yet none of his slashes have shown any power even remotely close to "destroying everything in the universe". So either you believe madara has never been inclined to use his full power even when his life was in jeopardy or you simply fail to comprehend madara's arrogance & hyperbole.

Now did Madara/Kishi give an explanation on why whoever sees PS dies? No the hell he didn't so why would that statement be believable.

Don't need to, if madara's PS has the power to destroy everything in the universe then nobody should be able to survive. In fact going by your sh*tty logic madara did explain why anyone who sees PS dies. Or now does this mean that hashi can tank a blade that can destroy all creation? Thus skewing your interpretation even more than it already is.

You didn't understand the point of this thread or my point.

Oh I read it loud & clear, you want to know why some people disregard your version of "manga facts" as opposed to actual facts backed w/ legitimate evidence & feats in support of them. Simply having an explanation why something can do another thing doesn't make it true, especially when the sources of those statements & explanations aren't all-knowing.

I am basically saying that if an explanation was giving on how something is possible then it is valid no need to go any further.

& That's completely wrong. Stop trying to find loopholes to help you give credit to whatever empty hype you see fit. Madara/BZ aren't omniscient, so their claims aren't true even w/ an explanation.

Temari being a universe buster is not valid unless an explanation was given and not just stated.

She blows away the universe, implying she uses fuuton, meaning her fuuton is powerful enough to blow it away. You literally have no argument here, most of these claims you think don't have an "explanation" can easily be explained w/ basic common sense & putting 2 & 2 together.

Let me help you understand:

"I am god"- Invalid statement

"I am the embodiment of life, I can breathe life to many things on the planet"- Valid statement

Lmao so this is your logic? Dear lord...

"I am god"

"I can breathe life into many things on the planet"

Please tell me the difference b/w the validity in the two above statements, because to me they both look like some nonsense anyone can say & still be wrong. As I said, you have no argument, neither of the above claims have any "explanation".

Try me

Lol actually, no need. The statement you just made speaks for itself:

Is there a proof that he is kaguya's son? He doesnt even look like her

 

[Loki d]

You mean one of those guys who actually uses their head around here?

Not really

Irrelevant, the definition of invincible. Itachi died by his own admission, meaning he can be defeated if he becomes exhausted. If a character is fast enough & strong enough to pressure itachi to use susanoo for the whole battle then he dies of chakra exhaustion, meaning he can get defeated & thus invalidating BZ's empty claim.

If he becomes exhausted he no longer has Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade therefore he loses his invincibility. Invincibility doesn't come with limitless reserves. You don't understand that the weapons make him Invincible not Immortal. Without the weapons he is not invincible it can't get any clearer. If he is defeated with the weapons "active" then he is not invincible.

Now this is where your comprehension skills come into question, if you believe that madara's PS blade had enough power to destroy everything in the universe then why did SS pound it into oblivion? We've seen madara go all out yet none of his slashes have shown any power even remotely close to "destroying everything in the universe". So either you believe madara has never been inclined to use his full power even when his life was in jeopardy or you simply fail to comprehend madara's arrogance & hyperbole.

Madara's PS does not come with Invincibility/Indestructibility so it being pounded into oblivion is irrelevant. Tell me what are slashes that possess the power to destroy everything in the universe suppose to look like or do? Just because it doesn't look powerful does not make it any less powerful. Kid Buu possessed the power to destroy a planet 10x over yet it didn't look like it could. Madara did use his full power against Hashirama and he was defeated. Just because he possessed such power does not mean someone else did not possess greater power.

Don't need to, if madara's PS has the power to destroy everything in the universe then nobody should be able to survive. In fact going by your sh*tty logic madara did explain why anyone who sees PS dies. Or now does this mean that hashi can tank a blade that can destroy all creation? Thus skewing your interpretation even more than it already is.

See that's where you people **** up, he didn't say he can destroy everything in the universe. This is fiction people survive black holes and other things they are not suppose to. No he didn't explain why anyone who sees PS dies. Hashi can if he is strong enough. You just don't know what you are talking about kid XD

She blows away the universe, implying she uses fuuton, meaning her fuuton is powerful enough to blow it away. You literally have no argument here, most of these claims you think don't have an "explanation" can easily be explained w/ basic common sense & putting 2 & 2 together.

All you are doing is implying something to give it an explanation when there was no explanation given pal. It does not explain how or with what. If I stated I can blow away the universe exactly as it is stated for Temari then its the same thing with no explanation on how it is possible. Now if it was more like "I possess God's breath and with it I can blow away a universe" This is valid because 1. She gained power from an Omnipotent. There is no power source for Temari.

Lmao so this is your logic? Dear lord...
Please tell me the difference b/w the validity in the two above statements, because to me they both look like some nonsense anyone can say & still be wrong. As I said, you have no argument, neither of the above claims have any "explanation".

I was right you lack comprehension or knowledge XD

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[Ansatsuken]

Not really


If he becomes exhausted he no longer has Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade therefore he loses his invincibility. Invincibility doesn't come with limitless reserves. You don't understand that the weapons make him Invincible not Immortal. Without the weapons he is not invincible it can't get any clearer. If he is defeated with the weapons "active" then he is not invincible.


Madara's PS does not come with Invincibility/Indestructibility so it being pounded into oblivion is irrelevant. Tell me what are slashes that possess the power to destroy everything in the universe suppose to look like or do? Just because it doesn't look powerful does not make it any less powerful. Kid Buu possessed the power to destroy a planet 10x over yet it didn't look like it could. Madara did use his full power against Hashirama and he was defeated. Just because he possessed such power does not mean someone else did not possess greater power.


See that's where you people **** up, he didn't say he can destroy everything in the universe. This is fiction people survive black holes and other things they are not suppose to. No he didn't explain why anyone who sees PS dies. Hashi can if he is strong enough. You just don't know what you are talking about kid XD

I think you need to be clear on your intention of why you make all this NV wanking threads.

What I see now you are twisting your own words. I can see it clearly

You just dont know what you're talking about kidU_U

 

[Loki d]

I think you need to be clear on your intention of why you make all this NV wanking threads.

What I see now you are twisting your own words. I can see it clearly

You just dont know what you're talking about kidU_U

Please explain your statement is just like one of those statements that have no meaning. And how long will you ride my giant c**k?

 

[Ansatsuken]

Please explain your statement is just like one of those statements that have no meaning. And how long will you ride my giant c**k?

I not needed to explain anything to you but its you that need to explain your motives here.

Your replied to Drapshin about PS is full of twisted words

I knew your motive like always to prove that Author words cant be denied by readers.

And you want to said PS able to destroy anything it slash. There is not much difference between can destroy everything in the universe and have a power to destroy everything in universe. Its because if you have a power to destroy everything in universe, thats mean you are capable to destroy everything in universe.

Power=Capability.

And if you take Madara word for granted, thats mean you should admitted that Madara PS can destroy anything including SS because his PS have/carried that power.

There should not exist any power greater than power that can destroy everything in universe.

All thing or everything is same. Both of them are locked word.

Yes Madara didnt explain everything or how PS destroy everything but if you take his word *and you did* on face value, theres no needed to denied/twisting Drapshin statement.

What Drapshin stated is true.


Let me tell you, the most clear motives why you all this wank thread or thread that take author words at face value because you want to prove and told everyone that NV is above many fictional verse that have established feats on destroying planet, star, galaxy or universe.

Your sole purpose to exist as reader or supporter of fictional verse was only/just looking for power not stories

 

[AnonymousShinobi]

Damn. Took some breaks from NB after the Manga ended, cause it was overrun with dumb threads/idiots...

Seems the people here are still complete dumb asses. OP, for example.