Let's Politicize Gun Massacres

[Yeah right]

The thing that happened in Florida today. What are your thoughts?

Everyone in comment sections are saying it is a white guy. I wonder about that too. I would say 90% likely, but you never know.

 

[Lightbringer]

All I know is that there has been absolutely no legislative action taken since the horrific Las Vegas shooting. I guess that can be said for any mass shooting for that matter. We just sweep it under the rug as usual and pretend like more guns will solve gun deaths.

You'd think after the Sandyhook Massacre, there would be substantial reform to our gun laws.

 

[Yeah right]

On average, there is school shooting every week. But that doesn't cause any alarm?

I don't get the suggestion that everyone should carry a gun. What happens when a minority is carrying a gun, trying to stop the real culprit. Will he or she get shot instead? Do people in these situations have the ability to think on a second's notice.

 

[Adam Driver]

Live about 5 minutes from this school. It's pretty crazy considering it's one of the best schools around here in broward. Cops and helicopters everywhere. The shooter was a hispanic his name is Nicolas Kruz 20 year old who was kicked out from that school before.

 

[Sauce]

All I know is that there has been absolutely no legislative action taken since the horrific Las Vegas shooting. I guess that can be said for any mass shooting for that matter. We just sweep it under the rug as usual and pretend like more guns will solve gun deaths.

You'd think after the Sandyhook Massacre, there would be substantial reform to our gun laws.

In what way?

 

[Lightbringer]

In what way?

Well, some examples would be:

-Having a gun buy-pack program which incentivizes people to sell their firearms.

-People with prior domestic abuse should be prohibited from owning guns.

-People on terrorist watch-lists should be prohibited from owning guns.

-There should be stricter background checks, mandatory firearm training, and a yearly psychological test in order to determine if you're still stable enough to own a firearm.

 

[Yeah right]

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Here is a picture. Lets see if this is fake news. Or a false flag. I saw that too in the comments on Youtube.

Record everthing to show people how easily information can change.

Someone said he was 20. I just read he was 18. Who is right?

This doesn't look like a red flag?

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I wonder who are the 20 likes from.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

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Here is a picture. Lets see if this is fake news. Or a false flag. I saw that too in the comments on Youtube.

Record everthing to show people how easily information can change.

Someone said he was 20. I just read he was 18. Who is right?

This doesn't look like a red flag?

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I wonder who are the 20 likes from.

too much jealousy issues, so much of a point to prove, and a severe mental manipulator.

He has issues...a lot.

The problem is, taking those issues out on other people in a violent matter...makes you an incredible sore loser.

Edit: And he's super enabled too, everyone just FEEDS him the attention...and he certainly expects people to REACT.

All their fault.

 

[kimb]

Well, some examples would be:

-Having a gun buy-pack program which incentivizes people to sell their firearms.

That's a new suggestion Ive never heard before. What would that entail?

-People with prior domestic abuse should be prohibited from owning guns.

People who have misdemeanor and felony charges are currently prohibited from legally owning and purchasing firearms, but Im aware there are a lot of loop holes in certain states, so I agree. They should definitely tighten up on that.

-People on terrorist watch-lists should be prohibited from owning guns.

How is this not already a thing. Lol

-There should be stricter background checks, mandatory firearm training, and a yearly psychological test in order to determine if you're still stable enough to own a firearm.

I can speak from experience when I say background checks for buying guns and WCC (wear conceal & carry) are strict enough. Im in the process of apply for my gun license and carriers permit and I think this has been the most dubious, tedious, and scrutinizing process I've been through in my entire life. Probably the most costly too. Gun training is also mandatory in my state, but I think it should be a country wide thing.

The one thing I probably disagree with you on is the annual psyche evals. That's far too overbearing, and in my opinion creates more issues than it solves.

 

[Belserion]

Lol another mass shooting happened? Waiting for trump's "none of them carried a gun, their fault" Twitter post.

 

[Yeah right]

Now he is a member of a white nationalist group. Fighting for a white america.

Update:
He is now not a member of a white nationalist group. The leader guy made it up. He need the "jew" media so he could get more publicity for his group. Or he is getting death threats and is just scared.

 

[SamAdams]

Why not politicize truck massacres? Its not the instrument used thats the problem. Its the crazies running loose in this world today. How about we politicize them?

 

[Lightbringer]

Why not politicize truck massacres? Its not the instrument used thats the problem. Its the crazies running loose in this world today. How about we politicize them?

States have actively been putting concrete barriers on roads to prevent vehicle attacks after the recent string of them.

 

[kimb]

Why not politicize truck massacres? Its not the instrument used thats the problem. Its the crazies running loose in this world today. How about we politicize them?

Lightbringer handled your truck argument, but aside from that, I agree that there needs to be more focus on mental health. It's always mentioned beneath the gun regulation debate, and it's never really elaborated upon.

Looking at this shooting specifically, there were an immense amount of red flags before this shooting happens. Had people done something about the shooter, we possibly wouldnt be faced with this tragedy today.

I might make a thread about this soon.

 

[SamAdams]

Lightbringer handled your truck argument, but aside from that, I agree that there needs to be more focus on mental health. It's always mentioned beneath the gun regulation debate, and it's never really elaborated upon.

Looking at this shooting specifically, there were an immense amount of red flags before this shooting happens. Had people done something about the shooter, we possibly wouldnt be faced with this tragedy today.

I might make a thread about this soon.

I’ve yet to see Lightbringer “handle” anything least of all the truck comment.

A few concrete barriers isn’t going to stop anyone wanting to run over people with a truck any more than any of the absurd gun regulations thats been dog and ponied around these shootings will stop nut jobs from shooting people.

Again, the problem isn’t the assortment of instruments thst can be used to kill people. The problem is people. I would agree to steralize people who have no business raising kids before I lined the streets with barricades or banned gun ownership from law abiding people.

 

[Lightbringer]

I’ve yet to see Lightbringer “handle” anything least of all the truck comment.

A few concrete barriers isn’t going to stop anyone wanting to run over people with a truck any more than any of the absurd gun regulations thats been dog and ponied around these shootings will stop nut jobs from shooting people.

Again, the problem isn’t the assortment of instruments thst can be used to kill people. The problem is people. I would agree to steralize people who have no business raising kids before I lined the streets with barricades or banned gun ownership from law abiding people.

Tell that to Australia.

 

[SamAdams]

Tell that to Australia.

Glad to. Australias own government statistics showed a peak in serious crime following their gun ban. Sexual assualt, kidnapping, armed and unarmed robbery etc. I mean what do you expect from criminals when they don’t have to worry about being shot?

If you look at the same time frame in America, 1993-2011 violent crime in the US fell 71% without a gun ban.

Illegal drugs can be bought in any city in our nation. What makes you think that illegal guns would be any different? That means criminals will have access to guns while decent people will be unarmed. Your delusional.

If you think its the police job to protect you then do a little home work on the cases that made it to the supreme court. They are well documented ruling that the police have “NO” duty to protect the public. Thats a fact. So would you would just prefer people allow themselves to be victimized? Spoken like a true marxist retard.


Lastly America has a very unique history and its problems are unique as well. Even though there are countries out there with gun bans and low crime rates, that doesn’t mean what they do will work here. That shouldn’t even need to be said except I guess to you.

Its ok though, I don’t expect much from your replies. I’ll try to keep replying as long as you can keep me intertained.

 

[Lightbringer]

Glad to. Australias own government statistics showed a peak in serious crime following their gun ban. Sexual assualt, kidnapping, armed and unarmed robbery etc. I mean what do you expect from criminals when they don’t have to worry about being shot?

If you look at the same time frame in America, 1993-2011 violent crime in the US fell 71% without a gun ban.

Illegal drugs can be bought in any city in our nation. What makes you think that illegal guns would be any different? That means criminals will have access to guns while decent people will be unarmed. Your delusional.

If you think its the police job to protect you then do a little home work on the cases that made it to the supreme court. They are well documented ruling that the police have “NO” duty to protect the public. Thats a fact. So would you would just prefer people allow themselves to be victimized? Spoken like a true marxist retard.


Lastly America has a very unique history and its problems are unique as well. Even though there are countries out there with gun bans and low crime rates, that doesn’t mean what they do will work here. That shouldn’t even need to be said except I guess to you.

Its ok though, I don’t expect much from your replies. I’ll try to keep replying as long as you can keep me intertained.

Haha, way to be disingenuous. The topic was gun violence and how Australia's gun laws prevented people from shooting people; something you did not bring up in your rebuttal and are now trying to create a red herring which also ends up being untrue. Here is your original statement:

absurd gun regulations thats been dog and ponied around these shootings will stop nut jobs from shooting people.

Australia's gun laws proves this statement wrong as their regulations caused a considerable drop in gun violence and gun deaths. There hasn't been a mass shooting in over 20 years since then.


As for the rest of the mumbo jumbo. The "peak in serious crime" did increase slightly in 1997 and peaked in 1999, but has since declined to the lowest number on record presently.

So once again, you are wrong.

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[SamAdams]

Haha, way to be disingenuous. The topic was gun violence and how Australia's gun laws prevented people from shooting people; something you did not bring up in your rebuttal and are now trying to create a red herring which also ends up being untrue. Here is your original statement:



Australia's gun laws proves this statement wrong as their regulations caused a considerable drop in gun violence and gun deaths. There hasn't been a mass shooting in over 20 years since then.


As for the rest of the mumbo jumbo. The "peak in serious crime" did increase slightly in 1997 and peaked in 1999, but has since declined to the lowest number on record presently.

So once again, you are wrong.

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Lol why didn’t you post a graph for gun violence or violent crime statistics in general for the same time period in the US? Theres time, you can still man up and post it so everyone can see a fair comparison.
If you had you would have proven your own ignorance.

 

[Lightbringer]

Lol why didn’t you post a graph for gun violence or violent crime statistics in general for the same time period in the US? Theres time, you can still man up and post it so everyone can see a fair comparison.
If you had you would have proven your own ignorance.

Do you deny that crime and gun deaths have dropped in Australia since the implementation of its gun laws?

absurd gun regulations thats been dog and ponied around these shootings will stop nut jobs from shooting people.