Lets get this straight Minato > Tobirama. Convince me otherise

[ChocoThunder]

Minato>tobirama of course

 

[The Grand Pubba]

Sensing: Tobirama was able to determine that Karin was Uzumaki by sensing her chakra. Orochimaru was made up of Hashirama's cells, so Hashi sensing it before Tobi is nothing to be ashamed of. Minato didn't seem to notice at all.

Chakra: Tobirama was able to teleport BM Naruto and BM Minato, both were using Kurama's full shroud and were holding TBBs. Minato has no chakra feat that comes close to that. Before you mention the fact Tobi was an Edo, Edo Tensei doesn't grant you unlimited chakra, it just replenishes it instantly as proven when Muu wasn't able to use Jinton after he split.

Intelligence/Battle Smarts: I agree, tho the gap is quite small so I doubt any of the two will be outsmarting the other.

Ninjutsu/Speed: Minato using FTG better is arguable, Tobirama has his own variations and he can teleport to any of his Suiton techs, since Minato himself stated anything containing the chakra of the user can be teleported to. And whilst Minato has the better Shunshin, Tobirama has the better reflexes.

Despite all of that, I agree with you on Minato>Tobirama.

Sensing: Minato not sensing Hashirama cells is debatable. you cold say he did so he didnt try to escape like Tobirama. But that is sepculation. I think that Minato more or less = to Tobiram in sensing

Chakra: Minato teleported that biggest TTb in the sirires. it dwarfs the 2 smaller kyubis. Plus when Tobirama teleported Minato/Naruto. Ther was no TTb. Minato created one big rasengan and naruto added sage chakra to it. Plus Minaot teleported the entire SA. Before you say kybui cloak, there is no evidence that it helped in increases the amount he can teleport. It just helped him teleport a whole all of them since they where connected. Which is even more impressive considering that they all had upgraded cloaks. I agree wit the edo thing.

Speed: How does Tobirama have faster reflexes? that want stated anywhere. Miantos reflexes where compared to the Raikge to give the riakage hype.

Also thax for agreeing with me!

 

[ShiroT]

Sensing: Tobirama was able to determine that Karin was Uzumaki by sensing her chakra. Orochimaru was made up of Hashirama's cells, so Hashi sensing it before Tobi is nothing to be ashamed of. Minato didn't seem to notice at all.

Chakra: Tobirama was able to teleport BM Naruto and BM Minato, both were using Kurama's full shroud and were holding TBBs. Minato has no chakra feat that comes close to that. Before you mention the fact Tobi was an Edo, Edo Tensei doesn't grant you unlimited chakra, it just replenishes it instantly as proven when Muu wasn't able to use Jinton after he split.

Intelligence/Battle Smarts: I agree, tho the gap is quite small so I doubt any of the two will be outsmarting the other.

Ninjutsu/Speed: Minato using FTG better is arguable, Tobirama has his own variations and he can teleport to any of his Suiton techs, since Minato himself stated anything containing the chakra of the user can be teleported to. Minato has the wider/more versatile arsenal tho', I agree on that. And whilst Minato has the better Shunshin, Tobirama has the better reflexes.

Despite all of that, I agree with you on Minato>Tobirama.

chakra: i dont remember him doing that but how does that compare to what minato did during the ninetails attacked? while that was impressive we dont know how tired he may have been since he as edo due to the chakra replenishing. if anything there tied enough like in a few other categories.

i agree with your other points

 

[The Grand Pubba]

I like the way you gave reason behind everything everything

Y thank you sir. I just wanted people to know where I was coming form.

 

[scorezor]

and this is why you wont be sucessful in life.

 

[Ababeel]

Well, it's obvious who's the superior one honestly. Lol

 

[Inert Brian]

Tobirama admitted inferiority when it came to FTG

Minato > Tobirama

 

[Wave.]

Sensing: Minato not sensing Hashirama cells is debatable. you cold say he did so he didnt try to escape like Tobirama. But that is sepculation. I think that Minato more or less = to Tobiram in sensing

Chakra: Minato teleported that biggest TTb in the sirires. it dwarfs the 2 smaller kyubis. Plus when Tobirama teleported Minato/Naruto. Ther was no TTb. Minato created one big rasengan and naruto added sage chakra to it. Plus Minaot teleported the entire SA. Before you say kybui cloak, there is no evidence that it helped in increases the amount he can teleport. It just helped him teleport a whole all of them since they where connected. Which is even more impressive considering that they all had upgraded cloaks. I agree wit the edo thing.

Speed: How does Tobirama have faster reflexes? that want stated anywhere. Miantos reflexes where compared to the Raikge to give the riakage hype.

Also thax for agreeing with me!

Sensing: I'd have to disagree there but eh it hardly matters in a hypothetical 1v1 between the two.

Chakra: True, kinda makes you wonder why Minato was exhausted by teleporting the much more smaller TBB of Kurama. The amount he can teleport is bound by the amount of chakra he has, KCM cloak increases the latter so it definitely had an effect. Nonetheless, I concede Minato has shown better feats in this department.

Speed: Minato was using KCM in his fight with Juubito and he seemed on par with Tobirama in that aspect. Moreover, Tobirama was able to use the double FTG tech at the same time as KCM Minato, then there's also the fact Tobirama managed to tag him. This leads me to believe that Tobirama has better reaction speed.

chakra: i dont remember him doing that but how does that compare to what minato did during the ninetails attacked? while that was impressive we dont know how tired he may have been since he as edo due to the chakra replenishing. if anything there tied enough like in a few other categories.

i agree with your other points

Eh, I'd get scans but its sort of old and I really can't recall which chapter. It was back when Naruto first used BSM, Tobirama teleported both of them to Juubito. Minato was already exhausted after teleporting one TBB, and Edo's do show signs of fatigue, the 2nd Mizukage showed signs of fatigue when he used Joki Boi.

 

[Madara Uzumaki Uchiha]

The way I see it

Note: edo tensei are much weaker than their original alive form. This is proven when an enhanced edo tensei ( madara) is still weaker than his living prime.

The same applies to tobirama.

Alive tobirama vs alive minato- tobirama is stronger.

Let's see how the fight would go...

Considering its a fight of two ftg users, I could easily imagine it being a battle of endurance.

I don't see minato hitting tobirama, not do I see tobirama hitting minato. However, tobirama should have superior chakra pool, since in a weakend edo form, he had enough chakra in order to crack the room.

Basically, minato gets tired faster, giving tobirama the win.

 

[ShiroT]

on the speed thing. tobirama commented ( i can remember 2 times) about how fast base minato was. once when he said your shushin was faster then mines and the 2nd when minato first went kcm(or bm which ever its called) and he said that he had already placed his kunai's around the field, which tobirama praised him for.

the second when he placed the kunai's was before he went bm or kcm showing that minato is very fast and has a faster body flicker then tobirama. which is important in a speed and intelligence match

 

[ShiroT]

The way I see it

Note: edo tensei are much weaker than their original alive form. This is proven when an enhanced edo tensei ( madara) is still weaker than his living prime.

The same applies to tobirama.

Alive tobirama vs alive minato- tobirama is stronger.

Let's see how the fight would go...

Considering its a fight of two ftg users, I could easily imagine it being a battle of endurance.

I don't see minato hitting tobirama, not do I see tobirama hitting minato. However, tobirama should have superior chakra pool, since in a weakend edo form, he had enough chakra in order to crack the room.

Basically, minato gets tired faster, giving tobirama the win.

but you have to consider there fighting styles. minato uses kunai for ftg and has rasengan. while tobirama has long range jutsus and is bigger on touching people for ftg, and he doesnt carrier a bunch of tagged kunais.

minato also has summoning jutsu and sage mode

 

[DHOH]

Your mind is already made, there's no convincing you.

Even you must admit that Tobirama out performed Minato during the war..

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

there is no evidence that it helped in increases the amount he can teleport.

And this is why no one should take you seriously.

 

[Bogard]

I believe he is generally equal with base Minato, but Minato winning more times than not in their duel because of superior speed. But in Sage Modę, it gives him a definite edge

 

[Minator93]

Minato mastered Perfect Sage Mode that confirms his chakra reserves are above Tobirama's U_U

 

[Conspirator.]

Minato is above tobirama. His ftg usage is more versatile, and he even has a level 3 ftg which we haven't seen yet.

@minator93
I am not sure if that means his chakra reserves are greater than Tobirama's. Minato might just have more natural skill. His chakra reserves are still big obiously.

 

[Minator93]

Minato is above tobirama. He's ftg usage is more versatile, and he even has a level 3 to ftg which we haven't seen yet.

@minator93
I am not sure if that means his chakra reserves are greater than Tobirama's. Minato might just have more natural skill. His chakra reserves are still big obiously.

Well from what we had seen in the Kyuubi Incident it was clear that Minato had large chakra reserves but that wasn't enough to put him above Tobirama in chakra reserves, however later we got that Minato had perfect SM and we know that-

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This puts him Minato above Tobirama in chakra.

 

[Ababeel]

Even you must admit that Tobirama out performed Minato during the war..

Lol, he outperformed him, when Minato is the one who's doing everything?

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[DHOH]

I believe he is generally equal with base Minato, but Minato winning more times than not in their duel because of superior speed. But in Sage Modę, it gives him a definite edge

Minato's sage mode last about ten seconds, how can that give him the edge?

 

[Minator93]

Lol, he outperformed him, when Minato is the one who's doing everything?

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The absolute Mangafacts!